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Old 07-15-2012, 01:21 AM   #101
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I dont know why everytime Paul comes here and start an interesting debate STATING FACTS, some people attack him.

It's stupid and so dumb to do that. It looks like they don't even read his post, they just paste captions and smileys...

Man, is that the kind of people you want to do business with? No way, they act like inmature dudes.

PIRIOD.
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Old 07-15-2012, 01:25 AM   #102
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Oh yeah, I've been doing robotics with FIRST for years and have been programming since I was 8 in 20ish languages now. Most of that money comes from local sponsors, though

I really only started affiliate marketing a few years ago to make money, everything else is just for fun.

CJ.com and Affiliate Future are my top earners by far with random product blogs after niche and individual product keyword research and some seo thrown in there, but I still make about 5k/month with adult now too plus hourly side jobs
I guess you are doing something special, and not just build blogs and promote them..

I mean, people doing JUST that, dont do that much. You do something other people don't and thats the reason you don't show your sites...

People doing that much do something special and different from the rest nowadays.

And even doing 30 blogs per day and posting so much and doing everything you say you do, without the help of something else, is manually impossible.

But still, I believe you are doing that much (not like others), because I have seen many of your posts and you make sense.

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Old 07-15-2012, 01:51 AM   #103
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I was sitting there thinking... no... no, don't do it. Don't ever click on another Markham thread ever... never... ever again.

But then I thought, well maybe just this one more time, one more trip to the Markham show, and lo and behold...

A bonafied jedi web Master rocking the turntables! This thread isn't a broken record after all...

Worth the price of admission!
Not only did you click, you read and commented.
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Old 07-15-2012, 02:01 AM   #104
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Yeah, that's probably true. The best(most valueable) porn consumers has probably tried a lot of membership sites. And they, want exclusive content, hd videos, great high resolution pictures and "no download limits".
You missed one thing. Great Porn that makes him want to buy.

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btw: If you can give them this with your pay site, and you got the right "niche". Then you can make a ton of money, literally. But only if you have great marketing.... on top of your content, web site design and give them the best experience you can give them as a member of your pay site.
Let's assume you're a great marketing man. Ultimately you have to show the surfer a sample of what he will get, or send him to a tour. Here the marketing ends, he's seeing samples of what he's buying. He's going to be convinced by the product itself. Hi Res, HD, great resolution and no download limits. Won't convince him to buy shit. The porn has to be hot enough to convert an experienced, sceptical buyer. Because he's already been conned.

No download limits, means he can download a years supply in a month.

And these things above all are why the good old days are over. Yes some still make money. Some make a lot of money. Most have problems making $50,000 a year.

The thread is about the good old days are over and never coming back. Far-L are you making more this year then you were in 2008? Anyone who is, is the exception. as most are not.
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Old 07-15-2012, 04:44 AM   #105
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I dont know why everytime Paul comes here and start an interesting debate STATING FACTS, some people attack him.

It's stupid and so dumb to do that. It looks like they don't even read his post, they just paste captions and smileys...

Man, is that the kind of people you want to do business with? No way, they act like inmature dudes.

PIRIOD.
Pretty much because most of his facts only are facts in Paul Markum world, the magical land where content is worth $3000 a shoot.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:12 AM   #106
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And these things above all are why the good old days are over. Yes some still make money. Some make a lot of money. Most have problems making $50,000 a year.
Good morning Paul, how was your time away ? I went to a BBQ at a friends, ate WAY too much, then spent the evening relaxing watching a couple episodes of Through the Wormhole. Hope your evening was just as enjoyable.

So where were we, Oh yes, Most have problems making $50,000 a year.

Can you please explain how this make the business different than ANY other business ? Everyone that ever opened a hardware store did not become Home Depot, Everyone with a food cart does not become Mc Donalds, everyone with a General Store does not become SEARS, the list goes on forever.

Same money is being made today as was any other year, there are just fewer people making it.
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Old 07-15-2012, 07:15 AM   #107
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:51 AM   #108
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I guess you are doing something special, and not just build blogs and promote them..

I mean, people doing JUST that, dont do that much. You do something other people don't and thats the reason you don't show your sites...

People doing that much do something special and different from the rest nowadays.

And even doing 30 blogs per day and posting so much and doing everything you say you do, without the help of something else, is manually impossible.

But still, I believe you are doing that much (not like others), because I have seen many of your posts and you make sense.

PIRIOD.
Yeah, I definitely know what I'm doing and making 30+ blogs isn't too hard, but I don't do it every day

There are two reasons why I really don't show my sites except for old ones in my sig or random one's like mikescandy.com.
One is because I don't want to explain how crappy to decent looking feeder blogs can make money (Basically because surfers don't know what they look like before they get there from SEs and it makes them click an image or link to my affiliate faster. This doesn't work with every niche, though..)
The second reason is because I take what I know about adult blogging and instead of a naked girl linking to the join or gallery page, I make product posts linking to the buy now page. I don't say which products or adult sites that I promote because I don't want competition
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:53 AM   #109
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Old 07-15-2012, 10:35 AM   #110
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I dont know why everytime Paul comes here and start an interesting debate STATING FACTS, some people attack him.

It's stupid and so dumb to do that. It looks like they don't even read his post, they just paste captions and smileys...

Man, is that the kind of people you want to do business with? No way, they act like inmature dudes.

PIRIOD.
Yeah, but what they lack in "inmaturity" they make up for with better spelling and selling... piriodidacticallytrociously speaking, I mean.

What you don't seem to get is PM talks down to guys that he has been around long enough to know are highly successful and living proof that what he says is not even worth debating. For there to actually be a debate there must be a representation of facts and PM makes up numbers and spins out assumptions that have no basis in reality. Only those easily taken in by such sophistry believe anything he says.

People like riding the Markham bandwagon because it is a better explanation for their own difficulties attaining success than admitting to not having the skills or acumen of others that are doing well.

The moment you realize that you will be taking a huge step to actually paying attention and learning from the people here that do realize how to run a successful business in this space even today.
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Paul has finally discovered that time exists.

Next he'll discover that the earth is round.

The past is over, just like Paul.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:20 AM   #112
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Next he'll discover that the earth is round.
Don't get your hopes up. He will argue that he made more sales when the earth was still flat and the government should therefor pass a law returning the earth to its former shape.
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:22 AM   #113
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Sure... go ahead and write his next post for him why don't ya?
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Sure... go ahead and write his next post for him why don't ya?
I'd rather get Paul's posts as cliff notes, if at all..
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Yeah, but what they lack in "inmaturity" they make up for with better spelling and selling... piriodidacticallytrociously speaking, I mean.

What you don't seem to get is PM talks down to guys that he has been around long enough to know are highly successful and living proof that what he says is not even worth debating. For there to actually be a debate there must be a representation of facts and PM makes up numbers and spins out assumptions that have no basis in reality. Only those easily taken in by such sophistry believe anything he says.

People like riding the Markham bandwagon because it is a better explanation for their own difficulties attaining success than admitting to not having the skills or acumen of others that are doing well.

The moment you realize that you will be taking a huge step to actually paying attention and learning from the people here that do realize how to run a successful business in this space even today.
Isn't it strange how all the successful ,experienced webmasters understand this to be the case.

Its like the litmus test of webmastering.

If you realise that PM is bewildered , you are at least on the road to success.

;-))

btw that post must be the first time the word " sophistry" has been used on this forum. ;-)
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I have no clue why he put his name as the title of the teen site. The girls are probably all retired by now, too..
I would suggest it fits with his "Attention seeking personality disorder"
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I dont know why everytime Paul comes here and start an interesting debate STATING FACTS, some people attack him.

It's stupid and so dumb to do that. It looks like they don't even read his post, they just paste captions and smileys...

Man, is that the kind of people you want to do business with? No way, they act like inmature dudes.

PIRIOD.
I wonder why people are attacking me and came up with this.

If your 1 of the guys doing 1,000 sign ups a day at $40. you probably can't be bothered to read this board. Or if you did would be chuckling at all the talk of it being over.

Even if you're doing 30 sign ups a day at $20 you're on $22,000 a year. which isn't great but working from home no costs and probably not hard work it's fine. Plus the prospect of it getting better. Unless your income is shrinking and listening to the flamers. It's not.

If you're on less than that, you know the truth that applies to you. And probably planning your future employment.

All I discourage is the newbies, who will struggle for months and probably never rise above the earnings of their day job.

Do why the flaming, from people who claim to know people doing $40,000 a day?

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What you don't seem to get is PM talks down to guys that he has been around long enough to know are highly successful and living proof that what he says is not even worth debating. For there to actually be a debate there must be a representation of facts and PM makes up numbers and spins out assumptions that have no basis in reality. Only those easily taken in by such sophistry believe anything he says.
So give us some facts. And by that I don't mean figures you make up and post here. Your company accounts for the last 5 years would be a good start. That was a snipe as obviously no one is talking facts here. Because they have no proof. I have something, we shoot a lot of content in our large studio and had a large staff. Squealer saw it.

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I wonder why people are attacking me and came up with this.

If your 1 of the guys doing 1,000 sign ups a day at $40. you probably can't be bothered to read this board. Or if you did would be chuckling at all the talk of it being over.

Even if you're doing 30 sign ups a day at $20 you're on $22,000 a year. which isn't great but working from home no costs and probably not hard work it's fine. Plus the prospect of it getting better. Unless your income is shrinking and listening to the flamers. It's not.

If you're on less than that, you know the truth that applies to you. And probably planning your future employment.

All I discourage is the newbies, who will struggle for months and probably never rise above the earnings of their day job.

Do why the flaming, from people who claim to know people doing $40,000 a day?
ahahahaha

Self owned again!!!

"""Even if you're doing 30 sign ups a day at $20 you're on $22,000 a year."""

An example of yout stats!

Your premise was "The golden years are gone""

They are not , for some.And 5 out of the 100 newbies reading this thread will and giving it a go will end up making a good living.

1 out 100 of them will do very well indeed

Basically the same percentage you will find throughout all businesses as Old Jeff postulated.And the same % has applied to this business since 1995.

Now look at my post number. Not many huh over 10yrs? LOL

But every now and again Paul people need to be shown just how bewildered you are , and because you have never got this interwebs thingy and apparently never will , there is no need for you to pontificate and preach your own loser attitude to others. , without a counterpoint from those who actually have done very well in this business.

Additionally those who try to educate you , based on their proven and known experience get battered with a pile of irrelevant and largely inaccurate verbal diarrhea.

Enjoy your day.
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ahahahaha

Self owned again!!!

"""Even if you're doing 30 sign ups a day at $20 you're on $22,000 a year."""

An example of yout stats!

Your premise was "The golden years are gone""

They are not , for some.And 5 out of the 100 newbies reading this thread will and giving it a go will end up making a good living.

1 out 100 of them will do very well indeed

Basically the same percentage you will find throughout all businesses as Old Jeff postulated.And the same % has applied to this business since 1995.

Now look at my post number. Not many huh over 10yrs? LOL

But every now and again Paul people need to be shown just how bewildered you are , and because you have never got this interwebs thingy and apparently never will , there is no need for you to pontificate and preach your own loser attitude to others. , without a counterpoint from those who actually have done very well in this business.

Additionally those who try to educate you , based on their proven and known experience get battered with a pile of irrelevant and largely inaccurate verbal diarrhea.

Enjoy your day.
stop putting yourself out making posts to the cunt, don't let him suck up even 1 second of your time
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good god listen to this stupid old cunt

demanding stats from people lol

paul everyone has traffic and makes sales except you

you cant even do basic math you retarded geriatric fool

yeah you just read that idiot

you read all my posts

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ahahahaha

Self owned again!!!

"""Even if you're doing 30 sign ups a day at $20 you're on $22,000 a year."""

An example of yout stats!
Think that if it makes you feel better.

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Your premise was "The golden years are gone""

They are not , for some.And 5 out of the 100 newbies reading this thread will and giving it a go will end up making a good living.

1 out 100 of them will do very well indeed

Basically the same percentage you will find throughout all businesses as Old Jeff postulated.And the same % has applied to this business since 1995.

Now look at my post number. Not many huh over 10yrs? LOL

But every now and again Paul people need to be shown just how bewildered you are , and because you have never got this interwebs thingy and apparently never will , there is no need for you to pontificate and preach your own loser attitude to others. , without a counterpoint from those who actually have done very well in this business.

Additionally those who try to educate you , based on their proven and known experience get battered with a pile of irrelevant and largely inaccurate verbal diarrhea.

Enjoy your day.
So why is warning the 95 who will crash and burn that porn is very tough these days a bad thing. Why is telling the 5 who will make it a bad thing?

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good god listen to this stupid old cunt

demanding stats from people lol

paul everyone has traffic and makes sales except you

you cant even do basic math you retarded geriatric fool

yeah you just read that idiot

you read all my posts

stupid fuck
True, I just made a sale. Far-L posted about facts and I replied that no one has posted facts.


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stop putting yourself out making posts to the cunt, don't let him suck up even 1 second of your time
One look at your site tells us all we need to know about your sales.

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You still have not explained why my telling people porn is a real tough business today is a bad thing.

You have spent the best part of this thread flaming me for saying what we all know. So why is it a bad thing?

But I'm giving you a chance to spam your offers, so that's a plus.
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