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brassmonkey · 07-15-2012, 04:28 PM

KFC Copycat Fried Chicken: Better Than the Colonel?s
sides
cornbread
mac and cheese
corn with onion and peppers

apple pie

"Everybody has eaten Kentucky Fried Chicken, and if they tell you they haven't, they are lying," James Boyce, chef/owner of Commerce Kitchen in Huntsville, Alabama, tells Yahoo! Shine. "The crust is perfect every time." Although Boyce has dug into his share of buckets, especially during his teens and early twenties (he remembers the coleslaw and biscuits as "winners"), when he first opened his clubby chophouse, Commerce Kitchen, he wasn't planning on serving fried chicken. But, being Alabama, "every one asked for it."

Related: Healthy Fast Food Options

Boyce started researching how to make classic Southern fried chicken at the local library. "They have an amazing archive of recipes," he explains. As everyone knows, the KFC recipe, developed by Colonel Harland Sanders, is still a mystery, and supposedly locked in a safe at company headquarters. Although some food sleuths claim to have identified the eleven secret herbs and spices used in the original, others say that KFC changed the recipe to plain old salt, pepper, and MSG when Sanders sold the chain back in 1964. Not so finger lickin' good.

Related: Top 5 Most Expensive Burgers

Boyce developed his succulent, crispy fried chicken by playing with traditional recipes and experimenting with the cooking process, eventually settling on a nine-spice blend and a slower fry. "What's great is how moist it stays," he says. "It takes a little longer but develops a beautiful crust and cooks evenly down to the bone." His method is especially appealing to home cooks who are intimidated by the idea of deep-frying. While you can use a screen to protect from splatters, Boyce says, "If your stove is getting covered with grease, your heat is too high."

Commerce Kitchen Fried Chicken (adapted from James Boyce)

Ingredients:

2 cups flour

2 tablespoons salt

2 tablespoons pepper

4 tablespoons paprika

1 teaspoon garlic salt

1 tablespoon dry mustard

1 tablespoon French thyme, ground

1 tablespoon dried sweet basil, ground

1 teaspoon oregano, ground

1 tablespoon Jamaica ginger, ground (regular ground ginger will work too)

2 cups buttermilk

2 2 ½- 3 lb. chickens, cut into 8 pieces each

Vegetable oil for frying (canola and peanut oil work too)

Directions:

Mix dry ingredients in large bowl. Set aside.

Put chicken and buttermilk in two large plastic Ziploc bags or a flat dish and marinate in the refrigerator for at least two hours, turning every 30 minutes. This tenderizes the meat as well as removes any blood.

When ready to cook, remove chicken pieces from buttermilk, shake off excess liquid. Toss with dry ingredients. The chicken should be lightly covered, but it's okay if there are a few missed spots. You can also shake chicken with the dry ingredients in a large Ziploc bag.

Fill a large, heavy bottomed skillet or deep pot with enough oil to cover halfway up the largest piece of chicken. Heat oil to 325-350 degrees. If you don't have a cooking thermometer, wait for small bubbles to form.

Adjust heat so the oil bubbles are steady but not too rapid. Working in two or more batches, place the coated chicken in the hot oil. After about eight minutes, the chicken will be golden brown underneath. Turn over once and cook for an additional eight minutes or until nicely browned on both sides. The cooking process will agitate the pieces slightly, so you don't need to shift them around in the pan.

After frying, place chicken on a metal sheet tray covered in a paper towel and transfer to 200-degree oven to keep warm until serving. The chicken will stay moist for up to an hour.

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blackmonsters · 07-15-2012, 04:49 PM

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L-Pink · 07-15-2012, 05:04 PM

That looks awesome.

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escorpio · 06-28-2015, 03:28 PM

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 03:35 PM

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 03:35 PM

Southerners know their bird...they have that on lockdown no one can compete on the same level.

rogueteens · 06-28-2015, 03:37 PM

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 03:38 PM

Anyone remember Pioneer Chicken in Southern California from the 80's and early 90's before Popeyes bought them out? That's some good bird. There's still at least one independent location in LA that still serves it up good (the one in the mid-Wilshire district is fake).

ErectMedia · 06-28-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Southerners know their bird...they have that on lockdown no one can compete on the same level.

But it represents slavery! I mean it is from the south.

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

But it represents slavery! I mean it is from the south.

Not everything from the South represents slavery.

But the confederate battle flag does....especially given that its creator described the flag as this:

"As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.[4]… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.[5]… As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.[6]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tappan_Thompson

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Not everything from the South represents slavery.

But the confederate battle flag does....especially given that its creator described the flag as this:

"As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.[4]… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.[5]… As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals.[6]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tappan_Thompson

Creator of the flag in question is this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Porcher_Miles

The flag represents a past era of southern sovereignty. Had it been without slavery, people from the south would still like and respect that flag. Fact.
Being that some extremists use that flag for wrong purposes should not punish majority of people who use it for normal purposes.

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Creator of the flag in question is this guy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Porcher_Miles

The flag represents a past era of southern sovereignty. Had it been without slavery, people from the south would still like and respect that flag. Fact.

I am referring to the "stainless banner" which is a derivative:

"The second national flag of the Confederacy, also known as the "Stainless Banner", which Thompson and Confederate blockade runner William Ross Postell helped to design"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tappan_Thompson

And if it is true that the confederate battle flag "represents a past era of southern sovereignty", then why aren't there significant numbers of Southern blacks who fly that flag? They are part of the South as well.

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Being that some extremists use that flag for wrong purposes should not punish majority of people who use it for normal purposes.

Who said anyone should be punished for flying any flag? Every person is legally able to fly any flag they want. And everyone else is legally able to criticize those people. That's basic 1st Amendment free speech. It goes both way. Free speech does not mean freedom from being criticized.

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

And if it is true that the confederate battle flag "represents a past era of southern sovereignty", then why aren't there significant numbers of Southern blacks who fly that flag? They are part of the South as well.

Because they weren't citizens of the south during south sovereignty?

brassmonkey · 06-28-2015, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

I am referring to the "stainless banner" which is a derivative:

"The second national flag of the Confederacy, also known as the "Stainless Banner", which Thompson and Confederate blockade runner William Ross Postell helped to design"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tappan_Thompson

And if it is true that the confederate battle flag "represents a past era of southern sovereignty", then why aren't there significant numbers of Southern blacks who fly that flag? They are part of the South as well.

mindshaken is a racist fukin tool!

there are way less of them here now. this guy comes here daily to make winy cry baby race post

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

mindshaken is a racist fukin tool!

there are way less of them here now. this guy comes here daily to make winy cry baby race post

Well said, racemonkey. About yourself

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Because they weren't citizens of the south during south sovereignty?

What are you even talking about? The southern states currently enjoy state sovereignty just like every other state in this nation. So there are black people who are currently citizens of their own southern state at this very moment.

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

What are you even talking about? The southern states currently enjoy state sovereignty just like every other state in this nation. So there are black people who are currently citizens of their own southern state at this very moment.

Wtf?

I thought we were talking about Confederacy? You know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confed...tes_of_America
1861?1865

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

But it represents slavery! I mean it is from the south.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Wtf?

I thought we were talking about Confederacy? You know:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confed...tes_of_America
1861–1865

I thought you were talking about the South in general...since that is what you said above.

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls

I thought you were talking about the South in general...since that is what you said above.

We were talking about specific flag from 1861 and you thought that the topic was about current states somehow?

I am pretty sure that blacks carry flags of their current states because they are citizens of those states.
You question was why didn't they carry flag from Confederacy in 1861 and I answered - because they were not citizens of Confederacy.

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

We were talking about specific flag from 1861 and you thought that the topic was about current states somehow?

Uh yeah, because that flag from 1961 is actually being flown by current southern states.

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

Uh yeah, because that flag from 1961 is actually being flown by current southern states.

You lost me with your reasoning.
I just answered you question why blacks do not carry flag of 1861 confederacy. Why would they carry flag of NOT their country?

brassmonkey · 06-28-2015, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

damn

could eat all that in one sitting

if i skip having a drink

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

You lost me with your reasoning.
I just answered you question why blacks do not carry flag of 1861 confederacy. Why would they carry flag of NOT their country?

The Confederates States of America is no one's country...so it is illogical for whites, or black, or any other race of people to fly that flag if they intend it to represent their country.

If people fly that flag to represent their past Southern culture, like you claim, then blacks would also fly the flag since they are a part of past southern culture. But they do not.

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

damn

could eat all that in one sitting

if i skip having a drink

You sure love your fried chicken

mineistaken · 06-28-2015, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

The Confederates States of America is no one's country...so it is illogical for whites, or black, or any other race of people to fly that flag if they intend it to represent their country.

If people fly that flag to represent their past Southern culture, like you claim, then blacks would also fly the flag since they are a part of past southern culture. But they do not.

I claimed:
The flag represents a past era of southern sovereignty.

Confederate states of America WAS the country of many people. Those people have descendants who live nowadays. These descendants carry the flag in respect to their ancestors, in respect to southern sovereignty, in respect to valor etc.
It happens to be that only white people have ancestors who made up The Confederate States of America. So NATURALLY mostly white people carry the flag.

How hard is to grasp this concept?

Dvae · 06-28-2015, 04:55 PM

escorpio · 06-28-2015, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

damn

could eat all that in one sitting

if i skip having a drink

Ezell's is the greatest fried chicken in the world. Makes Popeye's taste like Chicken McNuggets. And I love Popeye's.

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

I claimed:
The flag represents a past era of southern sovereignty.

Confederate states of America WAS the country of many people. Those people have descendants who live nowadays. These descendants carry the flag in respect to their ancestors, in respect to southern sovereignty, in respect to valor etc.
It happens to be that only white people have ancestors who made up The Confederate States of America. So NATURALLY mostly white people carry the flag.

How hard is to grasp this concept?

That does not even make sense because:

1. The "past era of Southern sovereignty" is the exactly same as current "Southern sovereignty". State Sovereignty among all the States in this nation has not legally changed. So if people are flying the flag to represent Southern sovereignty, then it is strange only white people are doing that.

2. The black people who lived in the Confederate States of America were indeed part of the makeup of that country. The CSA even had black confederate soldiers. So how can you claim that the CSA was only made up of white people?

escorpio · 06-28-2015, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TCLGirls

That does not even make sense because:

1. The "past era of Southern sovereignty" is the exactly same as current "Southern sovereignty". State Sovereignty among all the States in this nation has not legally changed. So if people are flying the flag to represent Southern sovereignty, then it is strange only white people are doing that.

2. The black people who lived in the Confederate States of America were indeed part of the makeup of that country. The CSA even had black confederate soldiers. So how can you claim that the CSA was only made up of white people?

Fried chicken of GTFO.

TCLGirls · 06-28-2015, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineistaken

Confederate states of America WAS the country of many people. Those people have descendants who live nowadays. These descendants carry the flag in respect to their ancestors, in respect to southern sovereignty, in respect to valor etc.
It happens to be that only white people have ancestors who made up The Confederate States of America. So NATURALLY mostly white people carry the flag.

How hard is to grasp this concept?

In fact, there were many thousands of "free blacks" who lived in the Confederate States of America during what you call "Southern sovereignty".

Free Blacks in the South: Why Did They Stay? - The Root

But the ancestors of those free blacks are not flying the confederate battle flag today. So that leads me to believe that the confederate flag represents something darker than simply "respect to southern sovereignty, in respect to valor etc" like you claim. Otherwise, those black descendants would also fly that flag.

escorpio · 06-28-2015, 05:54 PM

MrBottomTooth · 06-28-2015, 07:12 PM

I just had some Popeyes today. I can't even eat KFC anymore. Tastes like greasy sawdust compared to Popeyes.

NatalieK · 06-28-2015, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

Ezell's is the greatest fried chicken in the world. Makes Popeye's taste like Chicken McNuggets. And I love Popeye's.

We don't have "Ezell's" in Europe, but you're making me wish we did

Mr Pheer · 06-28-2015, 11:36 PM

2 tablespoons salt... fuck that

6976mg of sodium

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