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AdultKing · 07-16-2012, 08:24 AM

Who amongst you subscribe to your Adobe products using Adobe subscriptions or Creative Cloud which gives you access to all products ?

Do you think it's a good value proposition compared to buying products outright ?

fris · 07-16-2012, 08:42 AM

well whats the price? does it depends on your choice of programs? or is one flat fee for everything?

AdultKing · 07-16-2012, 08:44 AM

In Australia it's 62 per month, in the US it's $49 per month even though the Aussie dollar is worth more, go figure. It's pretty much a subscription plan for Adobe CS Suite plus some extras.

AdultKing · 07-16-2012, 06:47 PM

Either nobody has thoughts about this, or most people have other "licensing" arrangements for Adobe CS ?

Any other input welcomed

Young · 07-16-2012, 07:24 PM

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Photoshop Extended
Image editing and compositing

After Effects
Cinematic visual effects and motion graphics

Adobe Premiere Pro
Video production and editing

InDesign
Page design, layout, and publishing

Flash Professional
Interactive experiences and game design

Illustrator
Vector graphics and illustration

Fireworks
Image editing for websites and apps

Muse
Website design without coding

Dreamweaver
Websites, app design and coding

Audition
Audio recording, mixing, and restoration

SpeedGrade
Film finishing and color grading

Prelude
Metadata ingest, logging, and rough cuts

Lightroom
Digital photo processing and editing

Flash Builder Premium
IDE for coding Flash apps

Edge preview
Interactive HTML5 & CSS3 authoring

Acrobat X Pro
PDF creation and editing

Creative Cloud Connection
Desktop access to Creative Cloud Files - Coming Soon!

Touch App Plugins
Open and edit Touch App files in CS6 Desktop Apps

Copy and Paste from my Creative Cloud backend. That's what I get access to.

I've purchased the Master Collection in the past. This to me is a better option.

Mr Pheer · 07-16-2012, 07:34 PM

I've had it since May, I pay $29 a month and got all of CS6

BTW, Muse is the best shit ever for ripping out static websites quickly.

JimmyStephans · 07-16-2012, 08:04 PM

I just did, on a new system, and like it so far.

Young · 07-16-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

I've had it since May, I pay $29 a month and got all of CS6

BTW, Muse is the best shit ever for ripping out static websites quickly.

I'm a down and dirty HTML/CSS/JS by hand in Notepad++/TextMate kind of guy. And I get pretty snobby when people suggest WYSIWYG editors.

With that being said - I love Adobe Muse for whipping up quick landing pages for A/B testing. It's the only thing I use it for...but that alone made it worth the download. Not sure if I would purchase it outside of the subscription though.

AdultKing · 07-16-2012, 09:52 PM

Considering CS full license is around $3k and the upgrades are north of $600 in local currency, $700 a year to stay fully up to date doesn't seem too bad.

Except that Adobe are gouging the Australian market badly. $49.95 per month in the USA yet $64.95 per month here and our dollar is worth more than the US dollar. Go figure.

Rochard · 07-16-2012, 10:17 PM

At a certain point it will be too much. I'm paying $20 a month for my wife's Kindle magazines, and another $19 a month for a site my kid likes. Toss in a few monthly services I use, and we are already up past $100. M$ is working on a new office platform that will be cloud based, which they'll charge for on a monthly basis.

If Facebook and YouTube start charging, I'll be fucked.

AdultKing · 07-16-2012, 10:43 PM

Software and software subscription here is 100% tax deductible, so providing you use it for business the cost isn't really an issue unless you're unprofitable.

I think it's a good deal for CS compared to buying the box, it's just the price gouging of Australian customers I think sucks.

v4 media · 07-17-2012, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Considering CS full license is around $3k and the upgrades are north of $600 in local currency, $700 a year to stay fully up to date doesn't seem too bad.

Except that Adobe are gouging the Australian market badly. $49.95 per month in the USA yet $64.95 per month here and our dollar is worth more than the US dollar. Go figure.

Whats the sales tax in Au. Looking at the Spanish one it's around 60 Euros a month but that includes tax.

AdultKing · 07-17-2012, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by v4 media

Whats the sales tax in Au. Looking at the Spanish one it's around 60 Euros a month but that includes tax.

Sales tax is 10% however that would make it $54.00 not $64.95.

It's price gouging , same product, different regional pricing.

Trixie · 05-21-2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Pheer

BTW, Muse is the best shit ever for ripping out static websites quickly.

Huh. Nobody else talking about this since 2012 on a board for webmasters.

Surprised/not surprised.

Trixie · 05-21-2014, 10:03 AM

I just subscribed to Adobe CC a few months ago, and yes . . . it's worth the money.

Having the whole huge suite of tools is making me reorganize my mind and approach to everything . . . and take time to learn things instead of just making do with old stuff.

Young · 05-21-2014, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Trixie

Huh. Nobody else talking about this since 2012 on a board for webmasters.

Surprised/not surprised.

That's because one half of GFY has absolutely no clue

And the other half don't care because MUSE generates shitty code

RazorSharpe · 05-21-2014, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Sales tax is 10% however that would make it $54.00 not $64.95.

It's price gouging , same product, different regional pricing.

£46.88 (including VAT)/ month on an annual commit. £70.32 (including VAT)/month with option to cancel at any time.

Vendzilla · 05-21-2014, 10:38 AM

I'm switching over when I get my new pc next month. cs3 is the last suite I got and it's outdated. I need to step up to the cloud. I did a trial on illustrator because I was given something to work with that cs3 couldn't open, it's pretty slick

Vendzilla · 05-21-2014, 10:45 AM

You know you can take a class somewhere and then use the student discount. 29 a month

candyflip · 05-21-2014, 10:46 AM

You can't buy them outright as far as I'm aware. If you want new, up to date Adobe products...they're only available through the Cloud.

Best $20 a month I spend. It pay's to be a student.

KickAssJesse · 05-21-2014, 10:46 AM

It's a really fair price, and if you're using it daily, then it's more than worth it.

martinsc · 05-21-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KickAssJesse

It's a really fair price, and if you're using it daily, then it's more than worth it.

Cherry7 · 05-26-2014, 09:18 AM

Having bought premiere 1, 2, etc up to CS3 have lived with the bugs etc...

The lastest version is not that much different and demands new OS and computer.

Would like to have Photoshop and speed grade but will add up to a lot of cash over the years.

geedub · 05-26-2014, 09:35 AM

I've been a subscriber for over a year, I only use a few of the programs in the suite but I still find it worth every penny to me.

blackmonsters · 05-26-2014, 09:42 AM

Steve Jobs said Flash was dead.
I'm confused.

Babaganoosh · 05-26-2014, 10:41 AM

Fuck paying for it. I downloaded a cracked version from a file locker.

AaronM · 05-26-2014, 10:44 AM

I've been using it for just over a year. I love that you get 2 licenses and are able to use it on different platforms. I'm running on on my desktop PC and another n my Macbook Pro.

iwantchixx · 05-26-2014, 11:02 AM

we've been using it for awhile now. It's an awesome pricing scheme that makes LEGIT access affordable for anyone. No excuse to pirate...

edgeprod · 05-26-2014, 11:39 AM

Weird that this thread got bumped. I subscribed recently, and am enjoying my subscription. I was worried at first that I couldn't use it if I wasn't connected to the Internet (at the beach, traveling, etc), but that turned out not to be the case.

The AUS pricing has been a sore spot for Adobe for a long time now; they are being pricks over it, just because they apparently can.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-26-2014, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

It's an awesome pricing scheme that makes LEGIT access affordable for anyone. No excuse to pirate...

+1

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

Fuck paying for it. I downloaded a cracked version from a file locker.

Thieves will be thieves!

Not sure why anyone in the industry would so proudly want to claim here that they are a thief.

ADG

edgeprod · 05-26-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Not sure why anyone in the industry would so proudly want to claim here that they are a thief.

I was hoping it was a joke, since AK is the anti-pirate guy. I'm still hoping that, actually.

iwantchixx · 05-26-2014, 12:42 PM

On a side-note (kinda):

Anyone else having performance issues with cs6 on large jpg images (6000+ pixels long-side)? I swear just highlighting and sampling area to use with healing brushes takes a long assed time and misses the location often. Kinda feels like GUI is not actually showing whats being done to it properly until its applied..

Babaganoosh · 05-26-2014, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

+1

Thieves will be thieves!

Not sure why anyone in the industry would so proudly want to claim here that they are a thief.

ADG

newdipshit · 05-26-2014, 02:36 PM

I am a photographer first... Been using Photoshop since 4.0.. even before the first CS hit.. I have spent thousands in upgrades over the years and that is just for photoshop.. none of the other adobe products.

When I started editing video, I picked up a cheap video editor at Fry's for $60 and it sucked!

Then I joined the CC a few months ago... I pay $49 per month and have everything I want! It's brilliant if you ask me. For those of us who refuse to use pirated software and are actually paying for the upgrades, Creative Cloud is actually a money saver.. And it's way better to budget 50 a month then to dish out 600 at once for an upgrade just to get one new fucking healing brush...

07-16-2012, 08:24 AM	#1
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	Adobe Creative Cloud Who amongst you subscribe to your Adobe products using Adobe subscriptions or Creative Cloud which gives you access to all products ? Do you think it's a good value proposition compared to buying products outright ?

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05-21-2014, 10:03 AM	#15
Trixie Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Seattle, WA Posts: 1,850	I just subscribed to Adobe CC a few months ago, and yes . . . it's worth the money. Having the whole huge suite of tools is making me reorganize my mind and approach to everything . . . and take time to learn things instead of just making do with old stuff. __________________ WebWhoreBucks: Girls, a guy and a tranny -- unique indie porn!

07-16-2012, 08:44 AM	#3
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	In Australia it's 62 per month, in the US it's $49 per month even though the Aussie dollar is worth more, go figure. It's pretty much a subscription plan for Adobe CS Suite plus some extras.

07-16-2012, 06:47 PM	#4
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	Either nobody has thoughts about this, or most people have other "licensing" arrangements for Adobe CS ? Any other input welcomed

07-16-2012, 07:34 PM	#6
Mr Pheer Living inside your head. Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: In your AirBNB Posts: 20,414	I've had it since May, I pay $29 a month and got all of CS6 BTW, Muse is the best shit ever for ripping out static websites quickly.

07-16-2012, 09:52 PM	#9
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	Considering CS full license is around $3k and the upgrades are north of $600 in local currency, $700 a year to stay fully up to date doesn't seem too bad. Except that Adobe are gouging the Australian market badly. $49.95 per month in the USA yet $64.95 per month here and our dollar is worth more than the US dollar. Go figure.

07-16-2012, 10:43 PM	#11
AdultKing Raise Your Weapon Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Outback Australia Posts: 15,605	Software and software subscription here is 100% tax deductible, so providing you use it for business the cost isn't really an issue unless you're unprofitable. I think it's a good deal for CS compared to buying the box, it's just the price gouging of Australian customers I think sucks.

05-21-2014, 10:38 AM	#18
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,201	I'm switching over when I get my new pc next month. cs3 is the last suite I got and it's outdated. I need to step up to the cloud. I did a trial on illustrator because I was given something to work with that cs3 couldn't open, it's pretty slick __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

05-21-2014, 10:45 AM	#19
Vendzilla Biker Gnome Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: cell#324 Posts: 23,201	You know you can take a class somewhere and then use the student discount. 29 a month __________________ Webair died? Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants think about that

05-21-2014, 10:46 AM	#20
candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,052	You can't buy them outright as far as I'm aware. If you want new, up to date Adobe products...they're only available through the Cloud. Best $20 a month I spend. It pay's to be a student. __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me Last edited by candyflip; 05-21-2014 at 10:49 AM..

05-21-2014, 10:46 AM	#21
KickAssJesse Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 942	It's a really fair price, and if you're using it daily, then it's more than worth it. __________________ Contact - email: jesse~AT~atkcash~DOT~com - Skype: kickassjesse - ICQ: 386185547 ATK Cash $$$

05-26-2014, 09:18 AM	#23
Cherry7 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Having bought premiere 1, 2, etc up to CS3 have lived with the bugs etc... The lastest version is not that much different and demands new OS and computer. Would like to have Photoshop and speed grade but will add up to a lot of cash over the years. __________________ My Neighbour Butterfly PORN-The Musical The Long Goodbye Cinema Erotique

05-26-2014, 09:35 AM	#24
geedub Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: concrete jungle Posts: 3,488	I've been a subscriber for over a year, I only use a few of the programs in the suite but I still find it worth every penny to me.

05-26-2014, 09:42 AM	#25
blackmonsters Making PHP work Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: 🌎🌅🌈🌇 Posts: 20,227	Steve Jobs said Flash was dead. I'm confused. __________________ Make Money with Porn

05-26-2014, 10:41 AM	#26
Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	Fuck paying for it. I downloaded a cracked version from a file locker. __________________ I like pie.

05-26-2014, 10:44 AM	#27
AaronM Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,909	I've been using it for just over a year. I love that you get 2 licenses and are able to use it on different platforms. I'm running on on my desktop PC and another n my Macbook Pro.

05-26-2014, 11:02 AM	#28
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	we've been using it for awhile now. It's an awesome pricing scheme that makes LEGIT access affordable for anyone. No excuse to pirate...

05-26-2014, 11:39 AM	#29
edgeprod Permanently Gone Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,019	Weird that this thread got bumped. I subscribed recently, and am enjoying my subscription. I was worried at first that I couldn't use it if I wasn't connected to the Internet (at the beach, traveling, etc), but that turned out not to be the case. The AUS pricing has been a sore spot for Adobe for a long time now; they are being pricks over it, just because they apparently can.

05-26-2014, 12:42 PM	#32
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	On a side-note (kinda): Anyone else having performance issues with cs6 on large jpg images (6000+ pixels long-side)? I swear just highlighting and sampling area to use with healing brushes takes a long assed time and misses the location often. Kinda feels like GUI is not actually showing whats being done to it properly until its applied..

05-26-2014, 02:36 PM	#34
newdipshit Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 81	Yes!! I am a photographer first... Been using Photoshop since 4.0.. even before the first CS hit.. I have spent thousands in upgrades over the years and that is just for photoshop.. none of the other adobe products. When I started editing video, I picked up a cheap video editor at Fry's for $60 and it sucked! Then I joined the CC a few months ago... I pay $49 per month and have everything I want! It's brilliant if you ask me. For those of us who refuse to use pirated software and are actually paying for the upgrades, Creative Cloud is actually a money saver.. And it's way better to budget 50 a month then to dish out 600 at once for an upgrade just to get one new fucking healing brush...