FACTS about Porn

[OldJeff]

http://www.businessinsider.com/14-am...rn-2010-6?op=1

68 Million searches per day for porn - At 1:1000 that is 68,000 joins per day, just from search engines

Add in tubes, regular free sites, traffic brokers, email advertising.

Really thinking my 100,000 joins a day estimate was grossly under estimated.

Porn is alive and well

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Wheeeeeeeeee!!!



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[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

http://www.businessinsider.com/14-am...rn-2010-6?op=1

68 Million searches per day for porn - At 1:1000 that is 68,000 joins per day, just from search engines

Add in tubes, regular free sites, traffic brokers, email advertising.

Really thinking my 100,000 joins a day estimate was grossly under estimated.

Porn is alive and well

As most of them are looking and landing on free sites. Your logic is

[Paul_Matthews]

Link from a 2010 article, with the stats themselves taken from 2003-2008.
Old news, Sir.

[Nickatilynx]

Jeff!!!

Stop confusing REAL facts for facts PM's pulled out of his ass , from the vast vault of his life works entitled:

"How I have always failed - except I once sold some content "

;-))

And 100,000 joins a day does seem conservative.

And whats the rule of thumb in any business?

Is it , the top 10% make 90% of the money?

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Wheeeeeeeeee!!!



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Oh, I love Melisa Mendiny. One of the best (if not the best) asses on the planet!

[OldJeff]

You are right Nick, I forgot the most basic rule of online porn, If Paul Markum cannot sell it, sales do not exist.

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Oh, I love Melisa Mendiny. One of the best (if not the best) asses on the planet!

Fucking WOW

[Paul Markham]

Really thinking my 100,000 joins a day estimate was grossly under estimated.

I thought we were talking about facts here, not what you think and estimate.

You still have not answered my question.

Why is discouraging newbies, of who 95% will fail, such a bad thing for online porn?

[tony286]

since nothing is a publicly traded company its all guessing. I dont think its anywhere near 100k in a sign ups a day. You dont have to buy porn to see porn anymore. When I was young the only way to see porn for buy it or someone lent you or gave you theirs.

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I thought we were talking about facts here, not what you think and estimate.

You still have not answered my question.

Why is discouraging newbies, of who 95% will fail, such a bad thing for online porn?

Did someone say, "Hey pathetic old man" ?

I didn't think so, go back to your room Paul, you are going to hurt yourself.

[halfpint]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Wheeeeeeeeee!!!



ADG

that gif makes me feel like getting up of my comp chair and skipping with her just so i can feel my Moobs bouncing up and down and imagine im skipping with her

[roly]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

http://www.businessinsider.com/14-am...rn-2010-6?op=1

68 Million searches per day for porn - At 1:1000 that is 68,000 joins per day, just from search engines

Add in tubes, regular free sites, traffic brokers, email advertising.

Really thinking my 100,000 joins a day estimate was grossly under estimated.

Porn is alive and well

half of those hits are not to paysites so your stats are flawed. you don't make a sale to a pornsite from every 1000 visitors to a blog, tube etc. do you dispute the fact that there would be a huge amount of more sales if tubes weren't giving away full length stolen videos?

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

Did someone say, "Hey pathetic old man" ?

I didn't think so, go back to your room Paul, you are going to hurt yourself.

No answer, so fall back on abuse. And you think I'm pathetic.

[awwhoez]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Oh, I love Melisa Mendiny. One of the best (if not the best) asses on the planet!

is her skin that nice or is that air brush

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by awwhoez

is her skin that nice or is that air brush

Most likely an airbrush... let me find another...

Here you go:


Fullsize

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by roly

half of those hits are not to paysites so your stats are flawed. you don't make a sale to a pornsite from every 1000 visitors to a blog, tube etc. do you dispute the fact that there would be a huge amount of more sales if tubes weren't giving away full length stolen videos?

Let's not facts mess up a thread to show guess work.

Originally Posted by tony286

since nothing is a publicly traded company its all guessing. I dont think its anywhere near 100k in a sign ups a day. You dont have to buy porn to see porn anymore. When I was young the only way to see porn for buy it or someone lent you or gave you theirs.

Replacing a system which had the requirement of buying to enjoy, with one where people could enjoy without buying. Then calling the free system superior because of the number of surfers, is pathetic. We now know the truth. Remove the need to buy and people don't. No matter how many are looking at it for free.

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

No answer, so fall back on abuse. And you think I'm pathetic.

OK, I will make a deal with you, not more abuse.

The question is not good or bad on discouragement, the fact is it is 100% incorrect you say there is no money being made, there is a lot of money being made, by programs and affiliates.

[OldJeff]

Originally Posted by OldJeff

OK, I will make a deal with you, not more abuse.

The question is not good or bad on discouragement, the fact is it is 100% incorrect you say there is no money being made, there is a lot of money being made, by programs and affiliates.

Meant to say no more abuse, but please do not take my disagreeing with almost every word you say as abuse

[VenusBlogger]

that girl is nothing special.. she has no TITS.. Do you consider that the best in planet?... strange.

I never saw her before, but i can guess by her possitions that she tease the guys with a FEET FETISH.. thats for sure.

PIRIOD.

[pornguy]

BAM! Now thats some ass.

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by VenusBlogger

that girl is nothing special.. she has no TITS.. Do you consider that the best in planet?... strange.

I never saw her before, but i can guess by her possitions that she tease the guys with a FEET FETISH.. thats for sure.

PIRIOD.

Did I say tits? You are a fucking idiot.

[TheLegacy]

Here's a fact about porn that hasn't been discussed - people using old school marketing that worked successfully back in the late 90s but sucks today... not to mention over exposed content - poor SEO and the list goes on.

There are many who have adapted and survived very well - including niches where I recently saw a guy pulling in close to 90k hits a day on a niche that no one would touch - he just used smart SEO - marketing etc. throwing away what others were doing (PS never bought traffic either)

[RebelR]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Wheeeeeeeeee!!!



ADG

Im sorry.. what were we talking about again? I got distracted for some reason

[papill0n]

what is paul markham doing in a thread about facts ????


that stupid cunt wouldnt know a fact if it punctured his colostomy bag

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by papill0n

what is paul markham doing in a thread about facts ????


that stupid cunt wouldnt know a fact if it punctured his colostomy bag

He's got nothing to say, so he sinks to insults. Well done butterfly.

[Paul Markham]

More facts about porn.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18352421

http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/20...et-killed-porn

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/aug...s/fi-ct-porn10

Some vaguely better news.

http://www.shinyshiny.tv/2010/03/porn_industry_b.html

http://www.rosebudmag.com/music-ente...ndustry-012711

http://www.challies.com/articles/sex-isnt-selling

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/09/po...gling-economy/

http://newsflavor.com/politics/us-po...ustry-bailout/

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/02/te...pagewanted=all

http://articles.businessinsider.com/...-content-sites

http://www.reddit.com/comments/dcnpd...try_declining/

http://www.wasdstomp.com/2010/01/por...-on-world.html

http://copyrightcommerceandculture.c...porn-industry/

http://digg.com/news/offbeat/is_the_...stry_declining

http://www.frcblog.com/2011/08/playb...porn-business/

But take no notice, the snake oil salesman have the real truth.

[inthecrack]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

ADG

Ummm... I shot that video.

http://www.inthecrack.com/collection...Collection=537

Who's the bastard that cropped out the copyright info? Should I be DMCAing your ass?

[ilnjscb]

Originally Posted by inthecrack

Ummm... I shot that video.

http://www.inthecrack.com/collection...Collection=537

Who's the bastard that cropped out the copyright info? Should I be DMCAing your ass?

Dude, that is one incredible video. I hope you get whoever cropped you because you deserve credit for work like that. Totally serious.

[papill0n]

did that markham idiot actually just say

"lets not mess up facts with guesswork" ?

good fucking god help me

how does a person get that fucked in the head without massive drug abuse ?

[papill0n]

Originally Posted by inthecrack

Ummm... I shot that video.

http://www.inthecrack.com/collection...Collection=537

Who's the bastard that cropped out the copyright info? Should I be DMCAing your ass?

no

ADG is not your man

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[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by inthecrack

Ummm... I shot that video.

http://www.inthecrack.com/collection...Collection=537

Who's the bastard that cropped out the copyright info? Should I be DMCAing your ass?

Definitely wasn't me, I simply Googled an image and linked it to a post on a forum.

I produce exclusive content myself, and I don't go around stealing content, or trying to profit illegally from other people's work.

Nice work though - you create lots of excellent unique photos and videos!!!

At least you could get a link to your site in this thread...



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[TeaForOne]

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Definitely wasn't me, I simply Googled an image and linked it to a post on a forum.

I produce exclusive content myself, and I don't go around stealing content, or trying to profit illegally from other people's work.

Nice work though - you create lots of excellent unique photos and videos!!!

At least you could get a link to your site in this thread...



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And there's the dichotomy of you guys. You have no qualms posting your own peers shit as UGC to a forum, at the moment of pressing the submit reply button thinking "Fuck that guy, I don't know him from Adam.". Only when you get called out for shitting on a fellow webmaster then you get all "I didn't mean to hurt YOU.".

You guys call for SOPA etc yet pull the exact shit that that law would put you in prison for. Yet you contribute fuck all to a grass level real action initiative thats getting shit done, like AdultKing.

I've donated to AdultKing and I am not even in the adult industry, nor any content industry.

You guys are doomed. Fucking doomed, Capt. Mannering.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by TeaForOne

And there's the dichotomy of you guys. You have no qualms posting your own peers shit as UGC to a forum, at the moment of pressing the submit reply button thinking "Fuck that guy, I don't know him from Adam.". Only when you get called out for shitting on a fellow webmaster then you get all "I didn't mean to hurt YOU.".

You guys call for SOPA etc yet pull the exact shit that that law would put you in prison for. Yet you contribute fuck all to a grass level real action initiative thats getting shit done, like AdultKing.

I've donated to AdultKing and I am not even in the adult industry, nor any content industry.

You guys are doomed. Fucking doomed, Capt. Mannering.

QFT

[slapass]

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Jeff!!!

Stop confusing REAL facts for facts PM's pulled out of his ass , from the vast vault of his life works entitled:

"How I have always failed - except I once sold some content "

;-))

And 100,000 joins a day does seem conservative.

And whats the rule of thumb in any business?

Is it , the top 10% make 90% of the money?

I always heard it was 80/20. 80% of the business is done by 20% of the people.

But guys even 100k signups is 3 mil a day in sales or about 1 billion a year. Not a very big deal if you consider how many people are working here. 1000 guys with a million dollar gross?

[Paul Markham]

More facts pulled out of more asses.

Originally Posted by slapass

I always heard it was 80/20. 80% of the business is done by 20% of the people.

But guys even 100k signups is 3 mil a day in sales or about 1 billion a year. Not a very big deal if you consider how many people are working here. 1000 guys with a million dollar gross?

Originally Posted by Nickatilynx

Jeff!!!

Stop confusing REAL facts for facts PM's pulled out of his ass , from the vast vault of his life works entitled:

"How I have always failed - except I once sold some content "

;-))

And 100,000 joins a day does seem conservative.

And whats the rule of thumb in any business?

Is it , the top 10% make 90% of the money?

Please guys, stop pulling facts out of your asses.

All you have is anecdotal comments to base anything on. Until a company goes public, that's all we ever will have. Go do some searching on Public retail porn companies who have got audited accounts to start with.

[Paul Markham]

Facts about porn.

68 Million searches per day for porn

After that he went into a guessing game. Even those facts are pretty old. so here's some more recent facts.



Now that's a huge chunk of traffic that Jeff dismisses as crap traffic.

Has traffic in countries we can bill increased to replaces this 4 year loss of traffic?

What % are people who bought porn?

now add the piracy sites and all the other free Tubes giving away free porn and tell me why you think the good days are still here. PLEASE INCLUDE SOME REAL FACTS. Or at least some real indications beyond guess work and knowing someone who told you or you knew.

[OldJeff]

I give up Paul, you win, no one is making any money in porn, everyone just pack it in.

Manwin, Better close up shop, no money to be Made, AEBN, pull the plug it is over, CCBill, shut it down, FTV, MetArt, Hustler, Playboy, Penthouse, CE, Silvercash, Pimproll, Topbucks, AFF, SexSearch. Shut it all down.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

Originally Posted by TeaForOne

And there's the dichotomy of you guys. You have no qualms posting your own peers shit as UGC to a forum, at the moment of pressing the submit reply button thinking "Fuck that guy, I don't know him from Adam.". Only when you get called out for shitting on a fellow webmaster then you get all "I didn't mean to hurt YOU.".

You guys call for SOPA etc yet pull the exact shit that that law would put you in prison for. Yet you contribute fuck all to a grass level real action initiative thats getting shit done, like AdultKing.

I've donated to AdultKing and I am not even in the adult industry, nor any content industry.

You guys are doomed. Fucking doomed, Capt. Mannering.

I found the above image of the GFY Troll of the Year the same way I found the jump rope gif image, using Google search. Basically, I frequently use random images like a visual metaphor on this forum, either for humor or to make a point, and sometimes the imagery I choose is deliberately ambiguous or appears to mean nothing (see Dadaism).

I believe that what I do falls under Fair Use, and I do not think that I am using or hiding behind the same fallacious arguments as pirates do (most content piracy is pretty obvious even to a casual observer).

In any case, I don't think that my post adversely impacted InTheCrack's business, and it certainly was never my intent to harm his business, nor do I try to hurt anyone else's business when I link to YouTube videos or pictures hosted by someone else on the internet.

To date, the GFY mods have not taken issue with my picture posts (Correction: Back in 2005, there was an epic picture-tennis thread that was closed after it had reached 46 pages, and over 2,000 posts: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=449185, lol).

Hopefully you can understand that there is a world of difference between my posting random images on a forum (usually with no nudity), located via a Google image search, and the wholesale ripping off of content that takes place in the content piracy community.

As I previously stated, I am happy that the copyright owner was given proper credit for his image, and if he so wants to, he can now get the image removed, since now he knows where it is hosted, and when he does, we shall see a red "X" where once there was a hottie doing jump rope (unless the offending party does not respond to his DMCA, which will necessitate further action).

Seriously, I have been active in adult industry anti-piracy activities for more than a few years, and there are hundreds of people in the industry that know this to be the case.

In case you were not aware, I am a content producer myself, and I've literally spent hundreds of thousands of dollars over the past dozen years creating exclusive content, so I deal with my own piracy issues on a daily basis.

Anyway, unless anyone can show me that what I have been doing was actually illegal, I intend to "stick to my schtick" (based upon your join date it appears that you're fairly new to GFY, so you may not have noticed that most of my posts have some sort of visual imagery attached - sometimes it is pointed, other times it is ambiguous or completely off the wall).

If you can show me how what I am doing is illegal, then I will most certainly stop posting pix on this Forum (GFY is the only board I frequent and post on with any regularity), although I think if that happens, it will make GFY a less fun place (at least for me), and I'm pretty sure that it will not make one iota of difference in the industry struggle against piracy/content theft.



Let the troll fest resume...

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[DamianJ]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

PLEASE INCLUDE SOME REAL FACTS.

Like you do?

Oh no, wait a second, you sit on your bony broke ass in a third world country, sending your wife out to work a menial job to pay your rent as you watch the internet pass you by faster than a speeding bullet.

Then you are angry that things that made you some money 30 years ago when you were BREAKING THE LAW to make that money have now stopped being viable.

You are confused, bitter, lonely and your own family do all they can to not spend any time with you. Even at the weekends your wife takes your daughter to places you can't go.

No wonder you just troll and pull out figures from your arse to attempt to back up your incorrect POV.

Funny.

I'd rather be dead than live a life like you do.

[Cherry7]

Post facts like this gem from PM a few days ago....



Even if you're doing 30 sign ups a day at $20 you're on $22,000 a year. which isn't great but working from home no costs and probably not hard work it's fine. Plus the prospect of it getting better. Unless your income is shrinking and listening to the flamers. It's not. Paul Markham


30 x 20 x 365 = 219,000

[DVTimes]

cool ,

[travs]

Melissa Mendiny!!!!