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Old 07-17-2012, 09:03 AM   #1
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Anyone looking for a good shooter?

A friend of mine shot this stuff and is looking for partners or customers.

http://sugarmobilemedia.com/index.html

This guy is a good shooter and not me. Which is obvious when you see the work.
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:17 AM   #2
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:19 AM   #3
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He looks good!
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Old 07-17-2012, 11:20 AM   #4
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Looks good but doesnt look any better than many of the shooters that post here. Work for shooters that are even very well established is very hard to come by these days. Not many people ordering.
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Old 07-17-2012, 12:26 PM   #8
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why would anyone hire your friend ??

youve spent the last xxxmonths telling people porn is dead fool

dont hire this person people. your site will never make any money because nobody makes any sales anymore

just ask paul 'the idiot' markham. he will tell you

great thread paul, you really know the industry

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Old 07-17-2012, 12:45 PM   #9
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I thought it was a shooter game.
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If he is your friend than he is not a very good judge of character.
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I checked the pics, and i don't think it's so great, i must be honest.
A lot of problems with composition and WB and also Photoshop looks weird and old fashion...
Some photos was good, but mostly i wasn't impressed so much.
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Looks good but doesnt look any better than many of the shooters that post here. Work for shooters that are even very well established is very hard to come by these days. Not many people ordering.
I'm just doing a friend a favour.
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I like his stuff, i especially like this model. Makes me wish i was back in London as the models look hotter than i remember

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just go to a shelter, pick out a cat that is right for your family, and bring it home and all the kids will be happy just to have a cat, since they didn't know what options their were, all they know is this one.
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I like his stuff, i especially like this model. Makes me wish i was back in London as the models look hotter than i remember
Thank you. He's a shooter who can get more than the pixels right.
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Why is he friends with you? You need to be careful about shit like that because he might just be using you for your connections.
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Why is he friends with you? You need to be careful about shit like that because he might just be using you for your connections.
Clueless...does not have any connections of import...and as already has been stated whoever this "friend" is...he/she is a really bad judge of character.
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Clueless...does not have any connections of import...and as already has been stated whoever this "friend" is...he/she is a really bad judge of character.
Agree to disagree? And not only is he mad connected with all the top big money buyers but if you drop his name at any of the top clubs in London, Paris, Berlin, or Ibiza you'll be treated like fucking royalty. We're talking Jeroboams of Krug. Magnums are for peasants.
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A friend of mine shot this stuff and is looking for partners or customers.

http://sugarmobilemedia.com/index.html

This guy is a good shooter and not me. Which is obvious when you see the work.
His video work is alot better then his picture work, sadly i have to agree with Alice
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The very first pic i clicked on in his portfolio looks like blurry ass. It's one thing to retouch pics too much after the fact, its another to take shitty pics and use them to highlight your "talent".

No wonder you like this guy. His portfolio sucks. You guys probably spend a great deal of time together, pining for the old days when demand was high and shit photos sold for top dollar.

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His video work is alot better then his picture work, sadly i have to agree with Alice
Something doesn't add up for me, there are two very nice artistic photos in the splash, these are the best quality of the whole site, and there is nothing even close to its quality anywhere else. These seem to be pulled from google like the other two images quoting Aristotle and Johnny Appleseed. Presenting golden work, and then following up with lower quality makes the actual work look even more poor by comparison. wtf with the quotes? Presentation needs work.
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No wonder you like this guy. His portfolio sucks. You guys probably spend a great deal of time together, pining for the old days when demand was high and shit photos sold for top dollar.
You mean when we had magazines which only had 4-8 sets a month, 30 on the shelf and paid so much. As opposed to today when sites churn out content on a conveyor belt and pay so little for it.

Get what you mean.

AngelAfterlife it's not his site, just his work. He shoots to order, sold to all the top mags. When I get his hard drive a few people here will be eating crow.
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You mean when we had magazines which only had 4-8 sets a month, 30 on the shelf and paid so much. As opposed to today when sites churn out content on a conveyor belt and pay so little for it.
I mean you had a situation where production and sales were basically illegal or extremely taboo, yet demand was high and few would step into the breach to risk their freedom, reputations etc to supply that intense demand. Those that did were rewarded somewhat. No one in the adult business is EVER talking about all the great content magazines produced or published. That should tell you something.

Now supply is high and people like you collapsed and failed quickly due to the abundance of BETTER choices, consumers being more aware of whats available, consumers maturing and understanding where to find that which suits their tastes and where consumers are no longer being force fed tired, boring crap which is all you ever produced. Your content was never anything more than cheap filler content for tgps. It was never the content driving sales. It was never the content showcased in designs and tours. It was just filler content. Just as it is today.
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I mean you had a situation where production and sales were basically illegal or extremely taboo, yet demand was high and few would step into the breach to risk their freedom, reputations etc to supply that intense demand. Those that did were rewarded somewhat.
Stupidity know no bounds.

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It does, you guys couldn't afford us.

You're under the illusion I was going to give you part of my studio, one of my staff and my equipment to shoot cheap sets. Why would I do that when the operation I had was shooting content you couldn't afford?

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Now supply is high and people like you collapsed and failed quickly due to the abundance of BETTER choices,
You predicted that in 2004. Seems you got it wrong then. As you have now.

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consumers being more aware of whats available, consumers maturing and understanding where to find that which suits their tastes and where consumers are no longer being force fed tired, boring crap which is all you ever produced. Your content was never anything more than cheap filler content for tgps. It was never the content driving sales. It was never the content showcased in designs and tours. It was just filler content. Just as it is today.
Which is why a few companies with deep pockets are moving up to the niches and quality that used to be available offline from so many suppliers.

What ever style we shot for offline is a stupid refuge for the ignorant. Off line we had companies from Homegrown right the way up to Playboy. Online invented nothing new in porn. It did allow many niches that were cottage industries offline to flourish under their own banner online.

There's no niche, no style that is exclusive to online porn. If there was it would be so tiny it wouldn't sell. The main difference for shooters was the money. I could earn more turning out my content than any site would pay me. Maybe all the magazines were stupid to pay us so much. Then all the shooters shooting custom for peanuts were equally stupid or may be more so. Because the pay was far better on our side of the fence.

Today companies are opening better quality porn sites. Babes.com, orgasms.xxx, whengirlsplay.com, joining sites like Met-Art.com and others who dominated that market for a long while. It makes complete sense, because the stuff that 90% of the online sites churn out can be churned out be a lot of people. To produce better quality takes the magic ingredient most online shooters don't possess.

As Squealer points out the supply is high of the bottom to average level porn. So move up or move out.

Squealer, what exactly do you do? So we can see if you have a clue beyond make posts on GFY. Otherwise we can assume you're just another jealous traffic shoveller.
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You predicted that in 2004. Seems you got it wrong then. As you have now.
Uhmmm... yeah. When were you on this forum begging for money to survive? 2005, I believe?

Trying to sound smart is not for you Paul, stick to playing with your dog.
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Squealer, what exactly do you do? So we can see if you have a clue beyond make posts on GFY. Otherwise we can assume you're just another jealous traffic shoveller.
This is also a funny thing. You couldn't sell anything to save your life. What would I be jealous of exactly? Your ultimate failure, being forced to come here begging for money and then being forced out of the biz to live off of two governments because you can't sell shit?

I am jealous of your dog. Wonder how many tricks he teaches you every day.
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Uhmmm... yeah. When were you on this forum begging for money to survive? 2005, I believe?

Trying to sound smart is not for you Paul, stick to playing with your dog.
Got a link?

Can you explain why you came to see me, considering I'm a crap shooter?

Then show us your site with content on please.

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Seemed to have survived a long time without being able to sell anything. Maybe I won the lottery which funded the business.

Links to the begging threads please.

Yes I'm getting some of the taxes back I paid over the years.

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You should be. He eats better than you. True, I now have the time for the dog to teach me a trick or two. Like smalling out a rat.

Links to your site please.
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Oh... are you denying you were here begging for money Paul?

Really?

You even corrected me as to the timeline of your begging, in your village idiot thread.

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Oh... are you denying you were here begging for money Paul?

Really?

You even corrected me as to the timeline of your begging, in your village idiot thread.

then should be dead easy to find the threads. Go for it or sink as a liar.

Links to your site please.
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then should be dead easy to find the threads. Go for it or sink as a liar.

Links to your site please.
No no... I enjoy the fact that you are so blatantly lying. Just as you completely denied knowing me or meeting me or that I was at your home, your "studio", at an outdoor photo shoot with you and so on, until I posted the pics.

I have nothing to prove to you. I don't spend my days calling everyone an idiot and telling everyone how they are wrong as you do.

Back to topic.. you recommend a photographer who has a portfolio of shit pics and examples of shitty photography. Pretty consistent with who and what you are.
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...uh, I don't think you should be talking shit about my images.
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then should be dead easy to find the threads. Go for it or sink as a liar.

Links to your site please.
Clueless you have the same as begged multiple times and have certainly clearly lied... many times...and continue to lie.
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No no... I enjoy the fact that you are so blatantly lying.
The "begging thread. due to the blatant lying of Damian.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=14489973

As people can see clearly the problem was a bank account, with money in it, that I couldn't access to pay staff.

Yes I completely forgot you. You're that kind of guy. Seems I had a bigger impression on you though.

Now why did you come and see this crap shooter, why did you spend all day with me and even came to my home for dinner? People here might need to know that.

And can you show us your site with your great pictures, please. Show us what you do would be a good start.
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Old 07-19-2012, 01:29 AM   #43
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The "begging thread. due to the blatant lying of Damian.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=14489973

As people can see clearly the problem was a bank account, with money in it, that I couldn't access to pay staff.

Yes I completely forgot you. You're that kind of guy. Seems I had a bigger impression on you though.

Now why did you come and see this crap shooter, why did you spend all day with me and even came to my home for dinner? People here might need to know that.

And can you show us your site with your great pictures, please. Show us what you do would be a good start.
No shame in that thread Paul but seems that people liked your more humble persona in those days.
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Old 07-19-2012, 03:24 AM   #44
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No shame in that thread Paul but seems that people liked your more humble persona in those days.
I'm afraid I do react very badly to some of the idiots who post here.

Here's the truth about content and the idiot trolls.

Most of them couldn't tell a good shot from a bad one. Beyond the definition they have little clue of the little touches it take to transform a shot into a good porn shot. I proved this recently on B&B by putting up a selection of shooters work and the idiots couldn't tell the difference. Even though some were from top shooters.

TLC has just posted some shots of a girl that apart from pixels and hairstyle are very dated. Everyone's praising him. If I had put up the same shots, everyone would be flaming me.

No memberships are sold on the GFY Bro rating of the shooter.

Members areas today are about videos. The porn photo market that was worth money, died with magazines. Yet how many people showing off their abilities or content on their site, put up videos?

Yet this is the product we all sell. It's the only thing that makes cock rise and gets a membership bought.

Incidently, the style we shot was determined by the market we sold to. I could of turned out content for TeenDream, Karups, Lightspeed, Sapphic Erotica, Karups, ATK and a host of other top teen sites.

The magazines wanted what we shot and we were happy to supply it, then resell it via the stores and the paysites. Which were a small part of the business. There was nothing we did that was unusual, fantastic, amazing or evidence we're good shooters. Anyone could of done the same. They didn't. There loss.
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Old 07-19-2012, 04:19 AM   #45
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About 3 days from the look of that portfolio
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Old 07-19-2012, 05:18 AM   #47
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About 20 years. One of the top UK magazine shooters and can adapt his styles to fit his clients.
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yes , but here we are
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Here's the truth about content and the idiot trolls.

Most of them couldn't tell a good shot from a bad one. Beyond the definition they have little clue of the little touches it take to transform a shot into a good porn shot. I proved this recently on B&B by putting up a selection of shooters work and the idiots couldn't tell the difference. Even though some were from top shooters.
Top shooter = magazine shooter = top shooter

sorry but that is where you are wrong. magazine porn was never good photography, it was banal repetitive photography, the same set up, just change the girl. Like passport photography or police crime scene, good for the job.

You think that wedding photography is a step up !

This is not to blame you, you have had no training, you admit you are no photographer. But please stop the begging for attention and lame attempts to show that you are an "expert" when all you reveal is your ignorance. Try not mentioning magazines for say a month.

This expert shooter of yours, has he an qualifications?
Has he had any photographic exhibitions, book credits? has he won any prizes? or is he from the same "no book learning" no school of yours?

Have you tried changing lenses on the digital camera yet?
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Top shooter = magazine shooter = top shooter

sorry but that is where you are wrong. magazine porn was never good photography, it was banal repetitive photography, the same set up, just change the girl. Like passport photography or police crime scene, good for the job.

You think that wedding photography is a step up !

This is not to blame you, you have had no training, you admit you are no photographer. But please stop the begging for attention and lame attempts to show that you are an "expert" when all you reveal is your ignorance. Try not mentioning magazines for say a month.

This expert shooter of yours, has he an qualifications?
Has he had any photographic exhibitions, book credits? has he won any prizes? or is he from the same "no book learning" no school of yours?

Have you tried changing lenses on the digital camera yet?
OUCH!!!


But way on point.
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