Cop killed in Texas shooting....

[Jman]

Now this will get some heat. Hide your GUNS they are coming to take them away!!!!!


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19250806

[Rochard]

More guns is the solution! Clearly, the more guns we have the more we can protect ourselves. I mean, if this cop had a gun on him he would have been able to defend himself properly!

[sperbonzo]

The headline says "Campus shooting", and then in the story it says that it happened a couple of blocks away, did not say if the victims were students, and have no idea as to the motive.

Yet another example of the news media worldwide becoming a complete joke.....



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[Jman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Two people

Just because one wears a funny looking blue costume does not make him more or less special than anyone else

From what I heard so far 1 cop dead 1 cop injured and a 3rd person injured as well

[Bryan G]

More guns more guns more guns !!! Its the obvious solution right!!! Pls answer me why there are more gun murders in the USA per capita there anywhere else???

[Jman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Are you surprised?

Why would I be surprise that at a shooting people get injured or killed...

[sperbonzo]

There is an easy solution here. The USA is a terrible, dangerous, gun filled place, and Canadians should probably not come here... (for their own safety).


THERE! See? Now you don't have to worry about guns in the US anymore!







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[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

There is an easy solution here. The USA is a terrible, dangerous, gun filled place, and Canadians should probably not come here... (for their own safety).


THERE! See? Now you don't have to worry about guns in the US anymore!







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Why can't you answer a valid question? Don't get all defensive. Stats are stats sunshine.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

There is an easy solution here. The USA is a terrible, dangerous, gun filled place, and Canadians should probably not come here... (for their own safety).


THERE! See? Now you don't have to worry about guns in the US anymore!







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yes we do, you guys are importing stolen guns like crazy to our country.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

There is an easy solution here. The USA is a terrible, dangerous, gun filled place, and Canadians should probably not come here... (for their own safety).


THERE! See? Now you don't have to worry about guns in the US anymore!







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I have never lived in fear hence why I do not need a gun and I lived and travel to many places...

Must suck to live in fear and have to pack your closet with guns and ammo

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

More guns more guns more guns !!! Its the obvious solution right!!! Pls answer me why there are more gun murders in the USA per capita there anywhere else???

Please answer me why there has not been a genocide in the USA in the past yet there has been in other countries?

[Bryan G]

I read an article (which I'm sure you will say is bs) anyhow they were talking about tijana, mexico(spl?) Anyhow. The article was about what a bad rap it gets. They go on to say for every 100,000 people 6 are murdered in gun violence. In Toronto its 2 per 100k. However in places like chicago, memphis,detroit, tampa, etc its upwards of 38 per 100k. Why is that?

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

Please answer me why there has not been a genocide in the USA in the past yet there has been in other countries?

Good point. Genocides going on in all parts of the world except the US. Idiot.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yes we do, you guys are importing stolen guns like crazy to our country.

Actually, it would be Canadians doing the importing. It's not possible for anyone in the US to IMPORT anything into Canada

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Why can't you answer a valid question? Don't get all defensive. Stats are stats sunshine.

Because it's pointless. The question is based on so many twisted stats, and single agenda media coverage, and mindsets that were founded in a culture that had no problem with overly powerful government, and which does not allow for the thought that having weapons only availble to the government is perhaps a bad thing.

There are CONSTANTLY stories about law abiding gun owners that stop crime from happening, without even firing a shot in the vast majority of instances, but these are never covered by the national media, let alone the international press.


It's silly to argue with you guys about this. You will only ever see it one way, and you will only seek out information sources that match your already solidified views on the subject.




Carry on as you were.



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[Jman]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Actually, it would be Canadians doing the importing. It's not possible for anyone in the US to IMPORT anything into Canada

TOUCHÉ... Criminal operations will always need guns and will always buy guns anyway they can. I think this arguement Canadians use as no hold.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

Please answer me why there has not been a genocide in the USA in the past yet there has been in other countries?

And what countries would that be? Ones ran by a dictatorship?. You are talking apples and oranges here. I'm talking about violence brought among citizens to fellow citizens. No where in the world has this issue per capita.

[RyuLion]

Congratz to the winners!
/nonsense

[acrylix]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Pls answer me why there are more gun murders in the USA per capita there anywhere else???

Impossible to answer this question as there are not "more gun murders in the USA per capita" than anywhere else.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Because it's pointless. The question is based on so many twisted stats, and single agenda media coverage, and mindsets that were founded in a culture that had no problem with overly powerful government, and which does not allow for the thought that having weapons only available to the government is perhaps a bad thing.

There are CONSTANTLY stories about law abiding gun owners that stop crime from happening, without even firing a shot in the vast majority of instances, but these are never covered by the national media, let alone the international press.


It's silly to argue with you guys about this. You will only ever see it one way, and you will only seek out information sources that match your already solidified views on the subject.




Carry on as you were.



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Yes twisted stats. You are correct, 13 people were not murdered in a movie theatre by a wacko that was LEGALLY allowed to buy thousands of rounds of ammo and assault guns without a background check. You don't think there is a problem with that??

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

I read an article (which I'm sure you will say is bs) anyhow they were talking about tijana, mexico(spl?) Anyhow. The article was about what a bad rap it gets. They go on to say for every 100,000 people 6 are murdered in gun violence. In Toronto its 2 per 100k. However in places like chicago, memphis,detroit, tampa, etc its upwards of 38 per 100k. Why is that?

Does it list the low-life or drug addled idiots per thousand? That's the real problem.

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[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by candyflip

Actually, it would be Canadians doing the importing. It's not possible for anyone in the US to IMPORT anything into Canada

no matter what way you want to view it, people are taking advantage of how easy it is to get guns and smuggling them across the border and selling them here.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by acrylix

Impossible to answer this question as there are not "more gun murders in the USA per capita" than anywhere else.

Really? Citizen to citizen?? You sure about that??? I'm not talking about war.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

no matter what way you want to view it, people are taking advantage of how easy it is to get guns and smuggling them across the border and selling them here.

Yup the CANADIAN placing the orders are taking advantage... You think those American Gansters will say NO to a nice load of cash to smuggle guns. Also do you think if US could not import guns, the people needing them here would NOT look somewhere else??? If there is a demand there will ALWAYS be a supply.

Don't blame americans for gun killings in Canada, blame the ones importing them here

[Spudstr]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Yes twisted stats. You are correct, 13 people were not murdered in a movie theatre by a wacko that was LEGALLY allowed to buy thousands of rounds of ammo and assault guns without a background check. You don't think there is a problem with that??

news flash, all guns bought in a store require background checks. atleast where I live in VA assault rifles require 3 forms of ID, hand guns require 2.. and all purchases go through the state police background checks.

[Bryan G]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

So the war doesn't count? People living in a different longitude and latitude do not count. Okay

I know you're retarded but I figured even you could see the difference. Look I'm done arguing you clowns. If you don't think your country has a problem with guns then god speed. Let's just arm everyone, clearly that is the solution.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

no matter what way you want to view it, people are taking advantage of how easy it is to get guns and smuggling them across the border and selling them here.

[acrylix]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Stats are stats sunshine.

Originally Posted by Bryan G

Really? Citizen to citizen?? You sure about that??? I'm not talking about war.

Tell you what...why don't you post a link to the stats mentioned above which supposedly prove that the USA has more gun related murders per capita than anywhere else (citizen to citizen, or not).

If said stats are non-existent, you could peruse the stats sourced here and weed out any countries currently engaged in a war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ted_death_rate

You could also look into the gun control laws of each of those countries.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Jman

I have never lived in fear hence why I do not need a gun and I lived and travel to many places...

Must suck to live in fear and have to pack your closet with guns and ammo

Must suck to not to know what you're talking about.

A lot of people collect guns as a hobby and many others use them for hunting and sport shooting, not because they live in fear.

[Jman]

Originally Posted by DWB

Must suck to not to know what you're talking about.

A lot of people collect guns as a hobby and many others use them for hunting and sport shooting, not because they live in fear.

Hahaha yeah walking around with a gun on you in the streets of your city. I wonder what he's going to hunt for supper

I owned a 22 when I was a kid to shoot rabbits at the farm so I know what I am talking about.

And I do not call a guy with a bunch of fully automatic weapons a collector... Seriously the right to bear arms was not ment for collectors or hunters I think.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_...s_Constitution

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, along with the rest of the Bill of Rights.
In 2008 and 2010, the Supreme Court issued two Second Amendment decisions. In District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess a firearm, unconnected to service in a militia[1][2] and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home. In dicta, the Court listed many longstanding prohibitions and restrictions on firearms possession as being consistent with the Second Amendment.[3] In McDonald v. Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010), the Court ruled that the Second Amendment limits state and local governments to the same extent that it limits the federal government.[4]


If you FEEL the need to protect yourself then you fear something... right???

[shinmusashi44]

Originally Posted by scottybuzz

Please answer me why there has not been a genocide in the USA in the past yet there has been in other countries?

So tell me how many Native Americans you see on a daily basis?

[Mr Pheer]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yes we do, you guys are importing stolen guns like crazy to our country.

There is obviously a market there, or it wouldnt be happening.

[Radical Bucks]

This is another set up by our lovely US Gov. They will take the GUNS soon. But not without millions getting killed first.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by shinmusashi44

So tell me how many Native Americans you see on a daily basis?

They stay on the reservation, I mean casino property.

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[candyflip]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

no matter what way you want to view it, people are taking advantage of how easy it is to get guns and smuggling them across the border and selling them here.

It's not about viewing anything any way. If I'm sending something to your country, I am EXPORTING and you are IMPORTING.

Americans CANNOT IMPORT ANYTHING into Canada. We can however export and you can then import.

This is a pretty simple idea, and you've gotten it wrong twice now.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by shinmusashi44

So tell me how many Native Americans you see on a daily basis?

You pretty much just made his point, as the Natives didn't have much in the way of guns/ammo.

There has been no genocide in the US since the 2nd Amendment was adopted.

[Mr Pheer]

I'm still in shock after learning today that Canadians will buy stolen guns. I mean WTF, I thought you guys were better than that. You guys always seem to think you're better at everything, but now you're buying stolen guns? Every one of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The headline says "Campus shooting", and then in the story it says that it happened a couple of blocks away, did not say if the victims were students, and have no idea as to the motive.

Yet another example of the news media worldwide becoming a complete joke.....



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It's called "breaking news".

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Spudstr

news flash, all guns bought in a store require background checks. atleast where I live in VA assault rifles require 3 forms of ID, hand guns require 2.. and all purchases go through the state police background checks.

They sure do require back ground checks, don't they? This explains why one my friends, who has water on the brain and the mentality of a sixteen year old - yet he is allowed to own an AR15.

The background checks only prevent convicted felons from owning a firearm, that's it. It doesn't stop the nut jobs from buying guns.

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by Radical Bucks

This is another set up by our lovely US Gov. They will take the GUNS soon. But not without millions getting killed first.

Yes. And after forty years of hearing about this happening, I believe it's going to happen soon.

That and flying cars.

[NYRangers]

Originally Posted by Bryan G

And what countries would that be? Ones ran by a dictatorship?. You are talking apples and oranges here. I'm talking about violence brought among citizens to fellow citizens. No where in the world has this issue per capita.

Loosen the scarf and get some oxygen to the brain. Jamaica is one. Check the obituary pages if you ever go there. It's the largest part of the local papers. Brazil and many Central and South American countries are others. I won't go into Africa. Your view is jaded by the media.

I am sorry if the US frightens you. Spend your tourist dollars elsewhere.

[NYRangers]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

yes we do, you guys are importing stolen guns like crazy to our country.

This is the second time I have seen you say this. The first time I let it go figuring you had a few too many. This time I am coming to the conclusion you are either an alcoholic or flat out stupid for blaming your gun problem on the US "exporting" guns to Canada.

I guess that's why the capital is in Ottawa. The politicians must fit in with the other idiots.

[brassmonkey]

fuck one time

[Jman]

Originally Posted by NYRangers

Loosen the scarf and get some oxygen to the brain. Jamaica is one. Check the obituary pages if you ever go there. It's the largest part of the local papers. Brazil and many Central and South American countries are others. I won't go into Africa. Your view is jaded by the media.

I am sorry if the US frightens you. Spend your tourist dollars elsewhere.

That is correct, I was in Kingston Jamaica for a layover and had to spent the night. The Hotel doorman went to get me what I needed as they did not allow me to take 1 step outside. Same in Mexico city and Caracas.

But won't stop me from going over there or in the good ol US of A

[GregE]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

The headline says "Campus shooting", and then in the story it says that it happened a couple of blocks away, did not say if the victims were students, and have no idea as to the motive.

Yet another example of the news media worldwide becoming a complete joke.....



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There was a time when headline writers were both clever and more or less accurate.

But that was a long time ago.

[Radical Bucks]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

fuck one time

wow another prison mentality

[CyberHustler]

This is why I converted to Judaism.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by Rochard

More guns is the solution! Clearly, the more guns we have the more we can protect ourselves. I mean, if this cop had a gun on him he would have been able to defend himself properly!

Here's the deal.

Stricter gun control laws will indeed intimidate the average 9 to 5 worker.

That is to say, they'll frighten those poor slobs who will, in all certainty, get fired and most likely never again find decent employment if they're convicted of violating the same.

But . . . they won't slow down the rat bastards who are keen on robbing them.

Or worse.

Don't you see the absurdity - indeed even the obscenity - of such a state of affairs?

[Sly]

Franck must be banned?

[Rochard]

Originally Posted by GregE

Here's the deal.

Stricter gun control laws will indeed intimidate the average 9 to 5 worker.

That is to say, they'll frighten those poor slobs who will, in all certainty, get fired and most likely never again find decent employment if they're convicted of violating the same.

But . . . they won't slow down the rat bastards who are keen on robbing them.

Or worse.

Don't you see the absurdity - indeed even the obscenity - of such a state of affairs?

I'm a former US Marine who fully believes in his 2nd amendment. But I live in the real world - Do you really think your fucking gun is going to protect you if you get robbed? You watch way too much fucking TV.

The cop who was shot and killed today was a fully trained police officer with a firearm and he still got shot dead. Having a firearm doesn't mean you'll be protected, able to get the first shot off, or that you'll even see it coming.

I love the gun nuts who say "Well, if there was someone in the theatre it would have ended different". No, not really. Lots of people would have died. Anyone who thinks the average armed civilian is going go from eating popcorn to taking on an unknown amount of shooters in a dark movie watches WAY too much fucking TV>