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Old 08-20-2012, 01:10 PM   #1
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Coor or not: Your 3rd party ads in our cam site

Question for gfy trolls, is the following cool or not:

So we have tubecamgirl who got some traffic leaks, not as many as chaturbate yet.
Many affiliates complain on traffic leaks so we think: you want to own them?

What if we allow our affiliates to display in tubecamgirl pages (to users they send us) any 3rd party ads they wish, for example dating, with their own affiliate id's?
We would allow any html piece (after we verify it is legal, and excluded cam sites) added at top + bottom + else (im ads, popunder), and with geotarget.
For example you put your english dating ads for us,ca,au,uk and some german stuff for de,ch,at and some french stuff for fr, eventually even different if mobile.
Plus a prechecked segnup at register form, for ex. Fling again with your Fling affiliate id.

So you would get the normal pay per free up to $15 or $80 PPS from tubecamgirl, plus any else sales from ads displayed there that you get from the other programs directly (not matters to us). Your ads would be displayed lifetime logged-out (endless cookie) + logged-in status (hardcoded in username) so if you send a regular keep seeing your impressions for years.

As generic html piece you could put also ero-ads or exoclick or juicyads etc. but unsure this is ok for terms and service of theirs, in fact I ask is this idea new or old and is this faulty or not. Also do I have explained it well or no one understands what I meant.
I will listen everyone's feedback, especially VenusBlogger one.
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Anyone from "Poo Skin... " popular thread can write here too?
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What if people say the HTML they want is   - because basically what they want is less traffic leak?
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What if people say the HTML they want is   - because basically what they want is less traffic leak?
This is a site on style of cam4 and chaturbate, most girls are naked and play free, so like a tube (lots really free content), just it is live. You run adult-webcam-faq that I used often so you may know things in cams changed the past 2-3 years, now most sites have to show nude and play in free rooms or people all go away to other sites with free things.

For a free cam site, the business model includes advertising of third part (for ex. dating) live every other free site, also considering we pay for free users who never pay too. But unlike cam4 who sell ad spots (we purchased at times ourselves), and chaturbate advertising with own affiliate id, we may allow affiliates to put their own ads.

I think the standard old style cam affiliates with such type of traffic and advertising methods will always use whitelabels with own domains to send mostly traffic to usual main sites livejasmin / streamate / imlive etc. since they are biggest and consolidated.

Instead a free site it is less likely do do whitelabels (see myfreecams or cam4 or any tube), and we not even had affiliate program for the first year and still today affiliates is just a minimal % of our traffic sources.

This is why we talk with our few affiliates, and post in forums in search of feedback. For example we had only the pay per free (lead+minutes) offer at start. Then someone asked PPS, then I asked how much per PPS to them and posted in GFY too, learning $80 would be an acceptable PPS; we have added $80 pps offer and a few webmasters use it now. Next some affiliate liked the idea of own the ads so we post in GFY again in search for feedback.
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After I post this I got a few programs email us about integrate their ads in our site plus one alternative biller, which is cool but the post was meant to get feedback from affiliates, not programs. Is there any affiliate reading GFY still or it is only program and biller reps?
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After I post this I got a few programs email us about integrate their ads in our site plus one alternative biller, which is cool but the post was meant to get feedback from affiliates, not programs. Is there any affiliate reading GFY still or it is only program and biller reps?
You should have zero ads or traffic leaks
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You should have zero ads or traffic leaks
The point here it was, the ads and traffic leaks is to your links, not from ours.

Zero traffic leaks it seems to me a principle thing. Like it was some year ago do not support tube sites. What it matters is the money made per 1000 hits, you send traffic to different programs and compare money made, you keep what make more and pull what make less, what you care of principles?
Also, sites with ads declare these traffic leaks and everyone can see them, this is fair enough. What about who shows no ads or traffic leaks, then shave on statistic reports - as lods GFY conspiracy theorists claim often? If an affiliate thinks program are shaving stats, at this point how this compare to declared and visible traffic leaks, I wonder.
And still I repeat, the idea here is traffic leaks is to YOUR things, not to ours.
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I promote chaturbate because it converts yes they have traffic leek but i still make money. i don't think you are solving the problem why not remove the leaks
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I promote chaturbate because it converts yes they have traffic leek but i still make money. i don't think you are solving the problem why not remove the leaks
Intredasting. Not understood "i don't think you are solving the problem why not remove the leaks", you do money with a site with leaks so you seen not to see leaks as the problem, do you mean "you not solve problems by removing leaks", what problems.
Waiting VenusBlogger answer still.
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Funny enough with this thread I am banking at guys signup for plugrush under my aff id: they make account at tubecamgirl, there in promo tools see link to plugrush as suggested traffic source...
But I wished here someone discuss on 3rd party ads with your aff id really.
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Funny enough with this thread I am banking at guys signup for plugrush under my aff id: they make account at tubecamgirl, there in promo tools see link to plugrush as suggested traffic source...
But I wished here someone discuss on 3rd party ads with your aff id really.
I think being able to place my link code would be good but i would prefer no external links
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Of course affiliates would prefer this new idea! I would for sure.
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WHY can't I get Juicy ads to load?
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Ok for me but consider you would have several different juicyads users to display different adverts in the same tubecamgirl.com domain name, unsure how that is supported. Also we should put in pending for manual approval everything that it is not standard program URLs as we don't want unknown guys to host images and links.. they cna put nice ones for be bvalidated, then after replace into some horse sex with venusblogger.
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Intredasting. Not understood "i don't think you are solving the problem why not remove the leaks", you do money with a site with leaks so you seen not to see leaks as the problem, do you mean "you not solve problems by removing leaks", what problems.
Waiting VenusBlogger answer still.
mind = blown.

what the fuck did i just read?
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what the fuck did i just read?
i dont know but it was very very good
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Why not give your affiliates an option?: "Their own ads", OR "no ads".
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Why not give your affiliates an option?: "Their own ads", OR "no ads".
It could be an option with no any traffic leaks at all but then for this option we would pay less for free users leads at least. It is getting complicated, so 1) no my ads no your ads but pay less, 2) my ads and optionally your ads too and I pay more?
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I just survived from a serie of support emails: first a customer, then a cam girl, then an affiliate. Quite funny how they ask conflicting things and blaming the cam site instead of each other for outcomes.
In short to run a cam site you get to mix the following:

1) Affiliate asks 90% rev share from own domain whitelabel with no watermarks or hints that the site it is not his own really. Promo tools should include naked and playing cam girls who are live, and eventually one of our staff members who build his own site, customizing and changing all ours for his 10 clicks per day. There must be no chargebacks ever. Affiliate thinks his traffic is very good, would have signed up twice, but the site is doing 50% net shaving.

2) Cam girl asks 90% rev share with no need to do any free chat. The private it should be at $10 per minute minimum, and no any other girl should be allowed to set cheaper price. Also no any other girl should show naked for free, and there should be no any promo tool with her or any cam girl naked. Guys should pay a lot to just see a nipple in any case, and no promo should state different. Users shoudl be not able to get money back, so if a chargeback (or simple complain and refund) to happen, this should be at loss of site, and the model shoud be paid always in full for her done minutes. Model thinks the site is making 50% or more net profit.

3) Customer say the cam girls should all be naked and playing for free same as they see it happening in myfreecams. Whoever let pay for a live show in 2012 is a fraud. Let them consider a private, this should be for no more of 49 cents per minute, and the girl should immediately use no less than 3 toys at same times in her 3 holes, or he wants the money back (either by ask it, or doing silently a chargeback later). Customer thinks the site is making 50% or more net profit, and its owners are doing parties with naked girls in Hefner-Playboy-like mansions and castles.

Obviously each of Affiliate, Camgirl and Customer see a cam site in his/her own way.
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Of course affiliates would prefer this new idea! I would for sure.
Ok, inserting your html pieces it is now implemented in beta - can add pieces at top, bottom, as popunders, as instant messenger ads or whatever within HEAD tag too, also different per geotarget list of countries, also different for mobile or desktop.

Whoever wants to try:
1) have an affiliate account (if have not, make one from webmasters link at tubecamgirl)

2) Email at info@ or icq asking for try new externals ads (our contacts are at bottom of "instructions" page)

After a beta period, this will be a new menu option for everyone.
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If you have the technology to redirect country specific traffic.

We do very well in Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore

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If you have the technology to redirect country specific traffic.
We do very well in Japan, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore
Yes I am making a page with list of suggested sponsors per country, but we prefer no cam sites being advertised. At JP I listed your DTIservices, but for caribbeancom, saying please no live sites.
By the way I have issues in finding any programs for France that does not own and promote a french cam site heavily in pages of other sites... some have other sites too such as vod or toy shop but with too big links to their cam site (francolive, xcams etc.), I wonder if I miss some big program there, beta list below FYI:


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DE,AT,CH (Germany,Austria,Swiss) we suggest the following
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1) www.partnercash.com , www.partnercash.com/public/de/ (saboom.com)
2) www.wondocash.com (www.private4.com)
3) neu.cash4members.com (my-dirty-hobby.com / mydirtyhobby.de)
4) www.cashalizer.com (www.amarotic.com)
5) webmaster.pornme.com/partner/ (www.pornme.com )
6) partner.red-tube.com (www.red-tube.com)
7) www.campartner.com (www.amateurcommunity.de only, no live6.com please)
8) www.datingfactory.de (it redirect to your country site)

Mobile DE,AT,CH:
1) www.sexgoesmobile.com
2) www.brokerbabe.com
3) www.imo-cash.de


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FR,BE,LU (France,Belgium,Luxembourg) we suggest the following
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1) vador.com
2) http://www.easyflirt-partners.biz/?locale=en , www.easyrencontre.biz


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IT (Italy) we suggest the following
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Dating, geo = IT (Italy) we suggest the following:
1) Bakeca.it , http://www.affiliago.it/affiliates/index.php#SignupForm
2) http://www.easyflirt-partners.biz/?locale=en
3) datingfactory.it (it redirect to your country site)

Gambling, Betting, GEO = IT:
1) http://www.888affiliati.it , http://www.uffiliates.com/Login/Regi...&SST_ID=3&ic=3
2) www.affutd.com -> http://www.affutd.com/it/
3) https://www.partypartners.it/?lang=en
4) affiliates.betfair.com

Mobile (select traffic type = mobile, geo = IT,DE,ES and few others): 1) sexgoesmobile.com


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ES (Spain) we suggest the following
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1) www.wamcash.com (cumlouder.com ok, no camduty please)
2) www.mysponsor.tv (www.goduo.com ok, no cams please)
Mobile ES:
1) www.sexgoesmobile.com
2) www.brokerbabe.com


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JP (Japan) we suggest the following
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1) www.dticash.com , www.affiliate-dti.com (caribbeancom.com ok, please no live cams)
2) www.javbucks.com (javhd.com , av69.tv)
3) www.tokyo-hot.com/e/t_partner_e.html (tokyo-hot.com , ccbill program)
4) g-cash.biz (g-queen.com)
5) www.themediaplanets.com/en/ ( www.s-angels.com , h-paradise.net)
6) affiliate.dmm.com ( www.dmm.co.jp/en/partner/ad/ , aff jp lang only?)
7) duga.jp/aff/ ( duga.jp/main/ , aff jp lang only)
8) sbs.nsk-sys.com (xxx-av.com, 1919gogo.com, aff jp lang only)

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STOP SPAMMING your shit here. There is another forum section for it.

NOBODY CARES about your sites or shitty cams+dating you use to make money...

What are your TACTICS and SECRETS, huh? YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT IT.. you never explain how you convert cams...

What are you hiding from everyone that you never EXPLAIN?

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STOP SPAMMING your shit here. There is another forum section for it.

NOBODY CARES about your sites or shitty cams+dating you use to make money...

What are your TACTICS and SECRETS, huh? YOU NEVER TALK ABOUT IT.. you never explain how you convert cams...

What are you hiding from everyone that you never EXPLAIN?

DIRTY SORE LOSER.

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Ok for me but consider you would have several different juicyads users to display different adverts in the same tubecamgirl.com domain name, unsure how that is supported. Also we should put in pending for manual approval everything that it is not standard program URLs as we don't want unknown guys to host images and links.. they cna put nice ones for be bvalidated, then after replace into some horse sex with venusblogger.
LOL what the hell??? horse sex!
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I just survived from a serie of support emails: first a customer, then a cam girl, then an affiliate. Quite funny how they ask conflicting things and blaming the cam site instead of each other for outcomes.
In short to run a cam site you get to mix the following:

1) Affiliate asks 90% rev share from own domain whitelabel with no watermarks or hints that the site it is not his own really. Promo tools should include naked and playing cam girls who are live, and eventually one of our staff members who build his own site, customizing and changing all ours for his 10 clicks per day. There must be no chargebacks ever. Affiliate thinks his traffic is very good, would have signed up twice, but the site is doing 50% net shaving.

2) Cam girl asks 90% rev share with no need to do any free chat. The private it should be at $10 per minute minimum, and no any other girl should be allowed to set cheaper price. Also no any other girl should show naked for free, and there should be no any promo tool with her or any cam girl naked. Guys should pay a lot to just see a nipple in any case, and no promo should state different. Users shoudl be not able to get money back, so if a chargeback (or simple complain and refund) to happen, this should be at loss of site, and the model shoud be paid always in full for her done minutes. Model thinks the site is making 50% or more net profit.

3) Customer say the cam girls should all be naked and playing for free same as they see it happening in myfreecams. Whoever let pay for a live show in 2012 is a fraud. Let them consider a private, this should be for no more of 49 cents per minute, and the girl should immediately use no less than 3 toys at same times in her 3 holes, or he wants the money back (either by ask it, or doing silently a chargeback later). Customer thinks the site is making 50% or more net profit, and its owners are doing parties with naked girls in Hefner-Playboy-like mansions and castles.

Obviously each of Affiliate, Camgirl and Customer see a cam site in his/her own way.
Funny but true.. or maybe sad but true
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stop spamming your shit here. There is another forum section for it.

Nobody cares about your sites or shitty cams+dating you use to make money...

What are your tactics and secrets, huh? You never talk about it.. You never explain how you convert cams...

What are you hiding from everyone that you never explain?

Dirty sore loser.

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By the way we are implementing support of dating programs join API's too.
So in register page, a pre-checked "[X] Join me to Fling too" for example.
In fact the first we are implementing is fling (hugetraffic).
So affiliateX who got account to both hugetraffic and tubecamgirl, send guy to tubecamgirl with tubecamgirl affiliate ID, this guy go register in tubecmagirl and do not de-select the prechecked, but I know come form affiliateX, who gave me his hugetraffic ID, so I join this guy with affiliateX hugetraffic affiliate code.
This make sense?
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