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Old 09-13-2012, 11:08 AM   #1
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Dictators in the Middle East were useful.

Seriously, they kept a lid on things. "Liberating" these Animals is a huge mistake..
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:17 AM   #2
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I heard the same thing by a commentator on MSNBC last night. Basically saying that the dictators were asshats but useful ones in as much as they kept their populations under control and not attacking Embassies (Iran doesn't count)
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:33 AM   #3
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We are ALL animals.

Religion and political propaganda are the problems.

Most people would rather just get along.

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Old 09-13-2012, 11:36 AM   #4
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This might be true, but keeping horrible people in power to satisfy our needs while treating their people like shit isn't the right thing to do.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:47 AM   #5
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I guess you're better because you were "lucky" enough not to be born there.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:01 PM   #6
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As someone who values freedom, it pains me to say that a lot of the middle east needs to be ruled with an iron fist. It doesn't work otherwise. Generally speaking, many of them simply have not evolved enough yet to function properly as a society.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:01 PM   #7
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This might be true, but keeping horrible people in power to satisfy our needs while treating their people like shit isn't the right thing to do.
yes but it might be better than turing them loose to 'treat us like shit'
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:05 PM   #8
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Maybe it's an organic part of the middle east to have dictators, otherwise those monkeys will run amok.
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Old 09-13-2012, 12:17 PM   #9
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Maybe it's an organic part of the middle east to have dictators, otherwise those monkeys will run amok.
the real issue is the middle east has been isolated culturally for about 800 years, and they are going to make us fucking pay!!!
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:14 PM   #10
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:23 PM   #11
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As someone who values freedom, it pains me to say that a lot of the middle east needs to be ruled with an iron fist. It doesn't work otherwise. Generally speaking, many of them simply have not evolved enough yet to function properly as a society.
Read T.E. Lawrence's (AKA, Lawrence of Arabia) "5 Pillars of Islam" or anything by Edward Said - We have Europe and later, the Americans to thank for current situation. Europe has felt threatened by ME culture since the turn of the last millennium, hence, needless crusades.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:30 PM   #12
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Read T.E. Lawrence's (AKA, Lawrence of Arabia) "5 Pillars of Islam" or anything by Edward Said - We have Europe and later, the Americans to thank for current situation. Europe has felt threatened by ME culture since the turn of the last millennium, hence, needless crusades.
not true at all.... the muslins CHOSE the isolationist policy. think about every area the west has had wars with and NOT ONCE has there ever been any situation where the west has closed of the other culture... you're spouting crap from high school or some kind of other weird college liberal bullshit
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:38 PM   #13
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I guess you're better because you were "lucky" enough not to be born there.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:41 PM   #14
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We didn't liberate these people (the Islamic Fundamentalists), we supported and armed them.

BTW, can all racists in threads like this please fuck off and die.
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:04 PM   #15
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not true at all.... the muslins CHOSE the isolationist policy. think about every area the west has had wars with and NOT ONCE has there ever been any situation where the west has closed of the other culture... you're spouting crap from high school or some kind of other weird college liberal bullshit
Not at all. I did forget to mention Turkey and the expansion of the Ottoman Empire. That was a massive clusterfuck. However, Europe's activities pre-crusade and post crusade are well-documented. In last century we have mostly American oil companies to thank. In Middle East and Asia.

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Old 09-13-2012, 02:05 PM   #16
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We didn't liberate these people (the Islamic Fundamentalists), we supported and armed them.

BTW, can all racists in threads like this please fuck off and die.
Very, very true. The ones who did not exist, we created.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:24 PM   #17
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Every country would fall to bits without some sort of rule of law and sufficient policing to enforce it. Humans are vicious by nature.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:01 PM   #18
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Ok, you need to stop posting in serious threads or change that sig image because every time I get to your posts I stop reading and chuckle at that damned thing and lose all concentration!

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Old 09-13-2012, 08:07 PM   #19
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Those animals have tolerance issues.

Say one thing bad about the prophet and all hell breaks loose.

Most of the people protesting don't even look very religious.
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OTOH is what some people go out of their way to say about Muhammad really worth saying? Or is it just designed to provoke exactly this kind of response? Just because we have the right to say something doesn't mean we necessarily should.

Try exercising your First Amendment rights to call large gentlemen with big fists "cunts" and see if they react by politely disagreeing with your considered evaluation of them, while still defending your right to make it, or whether they simply pummel you into an ICU.
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