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LeRoy · 10-22-2012, 10:49 AM

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adultmobile · 10-22-2012, 10:53 AM

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Best livecam software is custom but its not an easy task. I worked on one for a major porn company trying to recreate MFC but after year we dumped the project. Unless you are willing to spend few hundred K I will not attempt to create one from ground up.

Few $100,000's it is too much at leat for a first usable version, I think; even if $10,000 it is too few.
Anyway even you got the an mfc clone soft for free, then you need a few $100,000's in advertising and promo for models, so you can't do it cheap anyway

adultmobile · 10-22-2012, 10:56 AM

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Yes they too, talked them before.
Camworld.com used to run on it (VCMS), then the site closed but not because of the software, I would say.

In fact I seen several cam sites launched with good software who failed (just for advertising under-funding in most cases), would be interesting if some will sell their software, may do more money than running a site themselves.

jay23 · 10-22-2012, 12:09 PM

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Few $100,000's it is too much at leat for a first usable version, I think; even if $10,000 it is too few.
Anyway even you got the an mfc clone soft for free, then you need a few $100,000's in advertising and promo for models, so you can't do it cheap anyway

Depends on what you want. The front end looks easy but then you start adding back end for Models, Affiliate , Cam Studios , model signup and management, managing models and monitoring etc etc .....its add up.

Mutt · 10-22-2012, 12:24 PM

i forgot, Metrix has cam system software - i think it might be a lease deal though.

you don't need $100K to develop the software - the off the shelf software is good enough IF you have the models/traffic - which few do.

i thought about doing a boutique style cam site - i realized it's way over my head and means.

TheSquealer · 10-22-2012, 12:46 PM

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Sorry to hear this, even meet him? I can be very antisocial (mr.spock level), so I had other approach. You say 2004, I made a thing in 2004 with his devs, it went well honestly, but it was their core biz video chat they know how to do and ready... you asked other things like advertising servers? I never asked other than cam things from their ready package so can't say.)

As I stated, I flew to Miami with my wife and met him and his wife and spent the day together. I don't know what to say other than everything was fine and then when i left the country and he presented a first working version, it was like stepping into the twighlight zone.

I had a big interest in the AI/bot stuff which I was already playing with - along with my own developers - if you remember that. He named it after his wife and had it on his sites, including musclemag.com - he also tried to build some weird virtual world with it.

And he's just a bullshit artist. He owned musclemagazine.com / musclemag.com and had ZERO affiliation with Muscle Magazine. That didn't stop him from taking advantage of non stop VIP treatment from body building shows, people flying him around and treating him as a VIP because they thought he was actually an important guy with Muscle Magazine.

in 04, he was just finishing "jamoncam" as I recall. He had zero experience with cams or the business and was building a cam system which struck me as being very odd.

Anyway, his wife seemed very nice. Very pretty, polite and my wife and her got along well. He's just a flake and a liar and a scammer. Not saying he's ripped everyone off, but my experience was one of the most insane ever, with the exception of Seth W at IEG and Dave Marshalack fucking me out of 100+k in my very first deal in the biz.

Dmitry · 10-22-2012, 08:53 PM

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About softservice - dmitry - he wrote here a post ago, no one hates him yet?

Actually the more client you have the more chances to catch someone unhappy. We are all different and its hard to meet everyone needs.

Just recent example: based on preferences of our existing clients we built a special rules for admin entering into the chatroom of a model, those rules are:
* admin is invisible to her until he start to type something in chat
* all messages from admin visible only by model and customers don't see him. that is mainly made to let admin do some corrections when model is in chat with someone but customer should not loose feeling of private session.
But yesterday another clients asked following:
* model and customers should see when admin enters into the chatroom
* all messages from admin should be with larger font, different color

Requirements are completely different but we have to keep the same code for all clients in order to be able to do updates easily and avoid mess of different versions of the code.

As result either he will be unhappy or other people will be unhappy while we do our best to keep everyone happy.

PS: Sure we are trying to keep it customizable when it is possible especially from the customer and model end.

Dmitry · 10-22-2012, 09:07 PM

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In fact I seen several cam sites launched with good software who failed (just for advertising under-funding in most cases), would be interesting if some will sell their software, may do more money than running a site themselves.

Indeed it is hard to start webcam business and high budget ($100k+) is not enough. The same time I have many examples of website with low budget but they are slowly getting part of the market.

I think those features/options increase chances of win:
1) before starting webcam site try to open a studio. Even if it is not profitable you would be able to understand business, get girls to work with you and prepare your environment
2) learn basic SEO and try to get someone with adult traffic into the team
3) get started with co-location website to start marketing of your domain name
4) start filming video for video gallery post and keep marketing of you co-located domain name.
5) get investor on board or find a way to get some money for starting it up. Budget really depends on how good you are with 4 points above. Sometimes complete website + ~$10k would be enough but in some cases you would need few hundreds of thousands dollars

I believe if those 5 points have passed you have to start looking for experienced company and use webcam software you can trust.

But if you have nothing from above it does not matter which script you get, even the one for under $1000 (which will not work for real business, I can gurantee!)

Zeiss · 10-22-2012, 09:08 PM

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LOL custom is the ONLY way to go mate

adultmobile · 10-23-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dmitry

Indeed it is hard to start webcam business and high budget ($100k+) is not enough. The same time I have many examples of website with low budget but they are slowly getting part of the market.

I think those features/options increase chances of win:
1) before starting webcam site try to open a studio. Even if it is not profitable you would be able to understand business, get girls to work with you and prepare your environment
2) learn basic SEO and try to get someone with adult traffic into the team
3) get started with co-location website to start marketing of your domain name
4) start filming video for video gallery post and keep marketing of you co-located domain name.
5) get investor on board or find a way to get some money for starting it up. Budget really depends on how good you are with 4 points above. Sometimes complete website + ~$10k would be enough but in some cases you would need few hundreds of thousands dollars

I believe if those 5 points have passed you have to start looking for experienced company and use webcam software you can trust.

But if you have nothing from above it does not matter which script you get, even the one for under $1000 (which will not work for real business, I can gurantee!)

Sites started by cam studios are the easiest to fail

In fact running a cam studio or being a cam girl includes no any requirement to know how to run or market a cam site, it is completely different skills and experiences, often with many misconceptions.
Especially cam studios think very naively: I have the girls and site take 60%+ from my sales, so if I run my own cam site, I get 100%.
Then they learn that except those few guys they can steal from other sites into the own one (maybe having models banned from other sites when busted), to get new real users from own cam site it cost in advertising $100+ per user, including the user who spends $10 once and never more; this is why for example I give $80 PPS and there's bigger cam sites paying even $200 PPS, altough with some limits and clausoles.
Many studios opened sites then asked me little after "how to find customers now?", like it is matter of a secret method I could tell. And they are surprised it is not just matter magically the new users come without invest any money, just as "they find from google" or "opened one blog". Also they wonder why no any affiliate join their system. Then they figure must buy traffic in $10,000's per month pieces rather than wait affiliates, and that the affiliates will come if you pay them $10 per free user or $200 per PPS or give 90% revshare, and still may not come if not see 500 models online (which a studio can't have).

Other funny type of new cam site who fail is the one run by a whale member, especially those who open a cam site for "own cam girl gf" who just have quit a studio because made cash from this whale-bf, and bring with her some other models from former studio, and she opens own site and studio with the money of such a whale-bf, thinking she will be the next millionaire girl. That is very good for cam software sellers as the guy can spend $10,000's to setup a site, also he may buy traffic for it, until he figure in a few months that there is no sales except himself, and that no any cam girl joined except her gf.

It is more likely a cam site will have success of launched by marketers or affiliate networks. Even if, missing completely how to run a cam site and keep models interested and online it is quite a need.. but if there's paying customers, the models will keep online somewhat.

In general I would suggest to anyone starting a cam site the following:

1) Have as shareholder or manager someone who had run an at least mid-sized cam site as director or anyway more than just "amin" successfully for years - or even if cam site failed, at least he learned why it failed (most fail for lack of advertising funds, or for shareholders fight each other silly way, not for bad skills). Same guy should bring in lots of studios and/or affiliates as he's trusted guy in business. To work without a guy with experience and contacts on board it is a warranty of wasting time and money in all the classical number of "new cam site" errors, everyone (included me long ago when I started) will do. This is same if you want to start any new company, you bring at least one veteran into it!

2) Have a shareholder who got $100,000+ for just the advertising and bonus to models for first few months. Extra to development or whatever expense. You do NOT launch a cam site with no traffic buys, hoping in google SEO and affiliates to join, really. Also you do NOT start a cam site small then wait it to grow, as models will NOT wait your site to grow but instead all quit for no pay guys, site empty few guys you had quit and affiliates just laugh at no online models status. A cam site must start with big boost made by cash, then if it stabilises, you can think at slow growth after.

Dmitry · 10-23-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile

Sites started by cam studios are the easiest to fail

I would not agree here. In suggested plan I did not mention that it is enough to have only girls, but all mentioned points are important. If you have money for marketing it is still hard (or we can call it expensive

to market it. In my suggested plan it could run on the lower budget if you have models and someone who can drive traffic, at least low traffic would be enough to start. Having 10 girls and 500 customers on the site is good enough to start.

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In general I would suggest to anyone starting a cam site the following:

1) Have as shareholder or manager someone who had run an at least mid-sized cam site as director or anyway more than just "amin" successfully for years - or even if cam site failed, at least he learned why it failed (most fail for lack of advertising funds, or for shareholders fight each other silly way, not for bad skills). Same guy should bring in lots of studios and/or affiliates as he's trusted guy in business. To work without a guy with experience and contacts on board it is a warranty of wasting time and money in all the classical number of "new cam site" errors, everyone (included me long ago when I started) will do. This is same if you want to start any new company, you bring at least one veteran into it!

2) Have a shareholder who got $100,000+ for just the advertising and bonus to models for first few months. Extra to development or whatever expense. You do NOT launch a cam +site with no traffic buys, hoping in google SEO and affiliates to join, really. Also you do NOT start a cam site small then wait it to grow, as models will NOT wait your site to grow but instead all quit for no pay guys, site empty few guys you had quit and affiliates just laugh at no online models status. A cam site must start with big boost made by cash, then if it stabilises, you can think at slow growth after.

its a good plan too, but as you said models would not wait for website to grow up and to pass this step would be helpful to have your own studio where you can keep girls working. The more girls you have in own studios the better and bigger will be the site.

we have a client who has more than 500 girls in his own studios and that works pretty good!

adultmobile · 10-24-2012, 08:29 AM

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we have a client who has more than 500 girls in his own studios and that works pretty good!

500 that's virtual, is that filipino site?

About a studio keeping own 10 girls on own site so it is not empty at the start... I can say some studios (not virtual, but phisical) who launch own site and require the girls to stay online on own site even if there's no sales, can lose girls. In fact to keep girls in a studio it is not the easiest thing if you keep them in the main sites that does money; if the girl smust steal time from main sites to stay in "boss site" all time, the girl may consider she change studio or setup at home.

PAR · 10-24-2012, 11:15 AM

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If you have all the time and money in the world sure .. else just skip them..

SGS · 10-24-2012, 11:24 AM

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10-22-2012, 12:24 PM	#55
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i forgot, Metrix has cam system software - i think it might be a lease deal though. you don't need $100K to develop the software - the off the shelf software is good enough IF you have the models/traffic - which few do. i thought about doing a boutique style cam site - i realized it's way over my head and means. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!