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Old 11-02-2012, 12:48 PM   #1
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Will Mitt Romney be good for Adult Industry?

If your living comes from Adult industry, don't you feel by voting Romney you cut the branch you sit on ? Seriously, can such a conservative politician, Mormon cult leader ( no buzz, cigarettes, obscenity ) and his ultra conservative Catholic VP running mate be honestly pro and good for ADULT business ? I am scratching my head why so many folks here are so excited to see them win, just to see another Ashcroft trying to prosecute obscenity at any cost?
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I honestly don't think we'll see a change either way. When Romney says "I'll stop porn" only a handful of Jesus freaks who have sex only to create babies believe him.
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I honestly don't think we'll see a change either way. When Romney says "I'll stop porn" only a handful of Jesus freaks who have sex only to create babies believe him.
Except he is a practicing Mormon and they typically take their religion very seriously. To the point that they were the main driving force behind Prop 8.

Whether he can get laws changed is debatable. Whether he can instruct his DOJ to ride the hell out of existing laws is not.

A lot of people in adult aren't known for their common sense so I'm sure a lot of people will still vote for him.
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He may become president someday but he'll never have the power to override the amendments that protect freedom of expression online and the rights of millions of adults to view adult material if they so wish.


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Pretty selfish to care more about your porn ventures than the Country.

If Romney went after porn, It could be the best thing to happen to this industry, I'd love it if all nudity had to be behind a members area.
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Remember all of the 2257 inspections during the last Republican administration?

Now look at the past 4 years...I think it is safe to conclude that another Obama administration will more likely be occupied with things like withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, unemployment, the deficit, and other more important issues which the American public is much more concerned about, rather than trying to prosecute legal porn.



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Except he is a practicing Mormon and they typically take their religion very seriously. To the point that they were the main driving force behind Prop 8.

Whether he can get laws changed is debatable. Whether he can instruct his DOJ to ride the hell out of existing laws is not.

A lot of people in adult aren't known for their common sense so I'm sure a lot of people will still vote for him.
So is Harry Reid... He's the real one that can make or break laws. But that doesn't seem to bother you now does it.
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Knowing how many adult webmasters ended up in jail under Bush administration ( and Bush was not any religious freak by any means ) when I look at the background of these 2 GOPers I feel cold going down my spine... Are people here craving more prosecution Bush/Ashcroft style ?
I am missing something or porn guys are masochistic ?

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Knowing how many adult webmasters ended up in jail under Bush administration ( and Bush was not any religious freak by any means ) when I look at the background of these 2 GOPers I feel cold going down my spine... Are people here craving more prosecution Bush/Ashcroft style ?
I am missing something or porn guys are masochistic ?
During Bush's term I was raided and spent 2 years in court for porn. But I'll still put my Country before myself.

you may convince a webmaster or two to vote Obama, But it's really not enough people to make a difference
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Pretty selfish to care more about your porn ventures than the Country.

If Romney went after porn, It could be the best thing to happen to this industry, I'd love it if all nudity had to be behind a members area.
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So is Harry Reid... He's the real one that can make or break laws. But that doesn't seem to bother you now does it.
He reps a state with legalized prostitution. Not a threat.
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I honestly don't think we'll see a change either way. When Romney says "I'll stop porn" only a handful of Jesus freaks who have sex only to create babies believe him.
Yep...I've been in online porn through Clinton, Bush, and Obama.

None of them did anything to affect my money one way or another.

It's just a scare tactic.
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During Bush's term I was raided and spent 2 years in court for porn. But I'll still put my Country before myself.

you may convince a webmaster or two to vote Obama, But it's really not enough people to make a difference
Why were you raided and what was the charge? What is your company. I'd like to read up on what happened to you.
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Pretty selfish to care more about your porn ventures than the Country.

If Romney went after porn, It could be the best thing to happen to this industry, I'd love it if all nudity had to be behind a members area.
You can vote for Obama and still put your country first. Obama's approval rating is sitting at close to 50%.

What you're saying Romney would do with porn is like saying Republicans don't care what goes on in your bedroom. We all know that is a lie.
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Why were you raided and what was the charge? What is your company. I'd like to read up on what happened to you.
I wonder this, too. You'd think for someone that spent so much money representing himself he'd avoid it again by putting an actual street address on his 2257 page as required by law (currently has an email address) and would also have a 2257 link on every page which is missing from the tour.

But hey, at least his 2257 page has a link to his 2257 statement!
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You can vote for Obama and still put your country first. Obama's approval rating is sitting at close to 50%.

What you're saying Romney would do with porn is like saying Republicans don't care what goes on in your bedroom. We all know that is a lie.
I don't know one Republican that gives a shit about porn or religion. It's a shame a handful of religious idiots is even noticed.
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Why were you raided and what was the charge? What is your company. I'd like to read up on what happened to you.
Distribution of obscene content, Because male and female genitals were touching....

end result was fines, and me moving to a different place.


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I wonder this, too. You'd think for someone that spent so much money representing himself he'd avoid it again by putting an actual street address on his 2257 page as required by law (currently has an email address) and would also have a 2257 link on every page which is missing from the tour.

But hey, at least his 2257 page has a link to his 2257 statement!
My lawyer said All you need for 2257 compliance is a way for them to contact you, and a place for them to see your records.

But thanks for trying to call me out. Best wishes to you my friend...

also it was the city that came after me, not the feds.

Edit: There is nowhere that I know of to read up on this, It was settled out of court. I didn't draw media attention in hopes of getting it dismissed and being done with it all.

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I don't know one Republican that gives a shit about porn or religion. It's a shame a handful of religious idiots is even noticed.
Hence all of the complaints about the religious right taking over the Republican party. If they'd stop pandering to them we wouldn't be having a lot of these discussions.

If the Republican becomes a party of people who believe in restrained spending, personal freedom and lower taxes I'd support them in a heartbeat. Instead they spend just as much as the next guy, care what happens in my bedroom and lower taxes without lowering spending.
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also it was the city that came after me, not the feds.
So one has nothing to do with the other. Laughable.

And of course there is no record. You wouldn't be speaking out of your ass or anything.

Also, hire a new lawyer because yours knows absolutely NOTHING about 2257.
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Hence all of the complaints about the religious right taking over the Republican party. If they'd stop pandering to them we wouldn't be having a lot of these discussions.

If the Republican becomes a party of people who believe in restrained spending, personal freedom and lower taxes I'd support them in a heartbeat. Instead they spend just as much as the next guy, care what happens in my bedroom and lower taxes without lowering spending.
I know. Who someone has sex with and what a woman does abortion wise have nothing to do with running the country. At best they should be discussed on a state level if at all.


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should be discussed on a state level if at all.
Shouldn't be discussed at all in my opinion. The govt. has no business in these matters. I think it just comes down to human nature...people just think they MUST run other people's lives.
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What? Why on Earth would you want to be censored from ANYTHING. You're an adult. No other adult should be able to tell you what you can and can't read, view, hear, and think.
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What? Why on Earth would you want to be censored from ANYTHING. You're an adult. No other adult should be able to tell you what you can and can't read, view, hear, and think.
you can't play porn on the street where kids can view it, Why should the internet be any different?
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where the fuck do you get this bullshit from. I didn't say anything close to that...
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you can't play porn on the street where kids can view it, Why should the internet be any different?
You have a point...but at the same time I don't like using kids as a tool for the govt. to control adults.

Besides it doesn't work anyway. When I was about 8 years old I had a nice little collection of porn mags. So did all my buddies.

There is nothing "wrong" with human sexuality. It's natural.

And when you think about it...the only people who are really bothered by it are adults. lol
Me and my childhood friends loved porn.
Hell, now that I think about it...as a hormone filled teenager porn was my best friend. It wasn't like a teenage, pimple faced, skinny boy was gonna get any pussy. So jerking off to magazines was a daily occurrence.

Just like today for teenage boys jerking off to online porn.
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I know personally 2 webmasters who served time after being raided by authorities under Bush/Ashcroft adm., how many do you know ? And why would you wanna be one of them after you cast your vote for Romney/Ryan ultra-conservative ticket ?

"Republican Mitt Romney insists his No. 1 job is fixing the economy but a former Reagan administration anti-porn prosecutor says the candidate's campaign has assured him that he also will "vigorously" crack down on pornographers if he is elected president.

Patrick Trueman, a former head of the Justice Department's Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section and now the head of Morality in Media, told the conservative Daily Caller that he was quietly promised that fighting porn will be a top priority in a Romney White House."
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I know personally 2 webmasters who served time after being raided by authorities under Bush/Ashcroft adm., how many do you know ?"
I only knew two people who were raided. One was a content producer in Chicago named Mike. He had a local person with a vendetta against him call the local police and claim CP.
He finally "won" after it took years in court to prove he was innocent.

The other people are a couple who post right here on GFY. They live in the Carolinas, and their own family called the local cops on them and accused them of an unsafe home for their children.
They won too.

I don't personally know anyone who was raided by the feds and served time.

Especially "webmasters" who don't produce anything.

Who are the 2 people that you know that got raided and where's the link to the story? I'd like to read what the circumstances were.
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In the Romney Campaign's promises to the voters we are all equally scum pornographers.

I am surprised you are even discussing this.
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In the Romney Campaign's promises to the voters we are all equally scum pornographers.

I am surprised you are even discussing this.
Can't find that anywhere on his site:
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none of you live in an socialist country yet, like us from europe were we pay 64% in tax to take "care" of those who are to lazy to work, its makes me sad to see the last free bastion in the world fall to socialism
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Can't find that anywhere on his site:
http://www.mittromney.com/issues
I was speaking metaphorically ... not quoting -- that would be redundant.
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none of you live in an socialist country yet, like us from europe were we pay 64% in tax to take "care" of those who are to lazy to work, its makes me sad to see the last free bastion in the world fall to socialism
Try to lose your house to medical bills, claim bankruptcy since you got sick, save the whole life to go to college, it will be close to 90% tax in US. Enjoy your subsidized live in socialism while it lasts. Somehow the countries with the highest taxes also are the happiest countries ( no US in the top 10 ):

According to polls taken from 2005 to 2011, these were the happiest countries:

Denmark
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Can't find that anywhere on his site:
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Try the Republican party's published platform, item 4, "Making the Internet Family Friendly."

Echoing the same language used in the platform, Morality in Media's Patrick Trueman (once a prosecutor at the DOJ, btw) claims that Alex Wong, the Romney campaign's legal policy director, has personally assured him that Mitt would, if elected, "vigorously" prosecute pornographers.

It's always possible that Romney is making this promise merely because he feels the need to pander, at least rhetorically, to the Christian Right, and that he has no real intention of prosecuting a lot of obscenity cases should he get elected. It's also possible that he'll prove true to his word, given the opportunity.
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Try the Republican party's published platform, item 4, "Making the Internet Family Friendly.".
The platform is exactly why the Republican party is screwed.

Now, the old political saying is that the Party Platform is something you run on in the primaries and run FROM in the general election...but the Republican Party Platform is written by it's most extreme individuals and makes the party as a whole look stupid.

As far as people I know who are Republicans...I can honestly say I don't know ANY that agree with that platform. But the Republicans I know are all business owners (doctors, bar owners, attorneys). And they are all pro-choice, love porn, etc.

I don't hang out in real life with the religious nut cases of the party.
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If Romney went after porn, It could be the best thing to happen to this industry, I'd love it if all nudity had to be behind a members area.
you mean people would actually have to pay again to access the stuff they really want to see? interesting
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:29 PM   #41
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And the judges that get put on the Supreme court, how will that effect the civil rights of Americans if it moves further to the right?
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Well, theoretically speaking...Supreme Court judges are supposed to interpret the Constitution.

They don't make laws. They merely interpret the constitutionality of existing laws.

Best bet is to elect pro-adult people to Congress and the Senate. They make the laws and can abolish laws.

The Supreme Court only deals with what the Legislative Branch gives it to deal with.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:32 PM   #43
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we'll find out after he steals the election
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you mean people would actually have to pay again to access the stuff they really want to see? interesting
Not sure why we don't all chip in together to try and make this happen.
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