Striking at WalMart - Page 3 - GoFuckYourself.com

GrantMercury · 11-23-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Rochard, I'm not talking about someone else's life or dream. I'm talking about why my tax dollars, and yours, should help underwrite the lives of those being employed by the nations largest employer.

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Exactly.

If FUCKING WalMart paid and provided health insurance at reasonable levels, WE wouldn't have to pick up the tab!

Check this shit out:

Walmart Workers To Get No-Cost Surgery At Mayo Clinic, Other Top Hospitals

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1958673.html

GrantMercury · 11-23-2012, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

lets see you make shit to begin with and now they cut your hours. So what do you do that month? take a few payday loans now you are in the hole that gets deeper and deeper. Yep thats a good plan.

Well, according to Republicans, millions of WalMart workers are just supposed to walk away and find millions of better paying jobs.

GrantMercury · 11-23-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Actually to raise everyone up at walmart to 12 an hr costs a customer 30 cents. Maybe you can still stay competitive but you only make 10 billion instead of 16. Is that so bad? So a ceo makes 50 million a year instead of 100 million. Costco pays a good wage and wallstreet fought the ceo on it and he told them fuck you. Its all about greed I got mine fuck you.

Ex-fucking-actly.

EliteWebmaster · 11-23-2012, 10:45 PM

Didn't Walmart shut down the whole store and left town the last time some idiots tried to strike or form a union?

epitome · 11-23-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster

Didn't Walmart shut down the whole store and left town the last time some idiots tried to strike or form a union?

Yes. They also spy on their employees and make life difficult for anyone that suggests unionizing.

GrantMercury · 11-23-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk

You must not know how supply and demand works.

It's not only about supply and demand.

There is a PROBLEM with WalMarts ENORMOUS profits while the workers live in poverty and lean on the taxpayer. That problem can be addressed legislatively. If We The People decide the status quo is an outrage, we can change it. The country is here for the people. The people make the rules. Not the corporations. The problem is we've forgotten that. We're half asleep. We can MAKE WalMart cover health insurance. We can MAKE them pay higher wages by raising the minimum wage.

WE decide the rules. If a company is going to do business in America (and they DO want to) then they should be required to pay their employees a livable wage. If they can't afford to, then they can't afford to be in business. (WalMart can So afford to).

DTK · 11-23-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom

By the way, to immediately decide that a striking person is because of Obama is... well I won't even say what it is.

I will. Colossally ignorant and reeking of....

baddog · 11-23-2012, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Being melodramatic? Try living on $9 on hr and no insurance because someone around our age working at walmart are basically fucked if thats all they can get. Alot of those people would of been the people working at the plant making a decent living. And thats gone.

That's more than minimum wage.

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Originally Posted by tony286

Actually to raise everyone up at walmart to 12 an hr costs a customer 30 cents. Maybe you can still stay competitive but you only make 10 billion instead of 16. Is that so bad? So a ceo makes 50 million a year instead of 100 million. Costco pays a good wage and wallstreet fought the ceo on it and he told them fuck you. Its all about greed I got mine fuck you.

Whoa, your right of entitlement and distribution of wealth ideals remind me of someone half your age.

DTK · 11-23-2012, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

It's not only about supply and demand.

There is a PROBLEM with WalMarts ENORMOUS profits while the workers live in poverty and lean on the taxpayer.

This is what so many people miss. Especially those who are locked into the right-wing media bubble.

I have no problem with success. I applaud it wholeheartedly.

What I have a problem with is excessive greed. If you add up the Walton heirs' combined net worth, it's approaching nearly $100 Billion, yet most of their employees live in near-poverty. To quote a movie line: "How many yachts can you water ski behind?" They could pony up a mere 2% of their wealth and provide health benefits (not to mention a little bit better wage) to all their employees, but no....

The Walton heirs also spend a lot of money perpetuating the lie that Trickle Down/Supply Side economics actually works, when it's been proven that it actually doesn't. But hey, it lets them keep more money while treating their rank-and-file workers like glorified serfs, so go for it...i guess.

baddog · 11-24-2012, 12:00 AM

Just wondering if I have this right. Walmart makes so much money that they should just give everyone a raise to almost double what minimum wage is, thus making it where no mom & pop operation can get any employees?

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by woj

Walmart profit Margin (ttm): 3.57%

and besides, that logic is ridiculous, so walmart provides millions of jobs, and somehow people manage to label them as the bad guy, wtf?

no one is forcing people to take on these jobs, if they don't want to stock shelves for $7/hr maybe they should get some skills so they could get a better paying job?

For a such smart guy, you certainly lack the common sense with this subject.

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Just wondering if I have this right. Walmart makes so much money that they should just give everyone a raise to almost double what minimum wage is, thus making it where no mom & pop operation can get any employees?

Jesus fucking christ you are retarded.

Fuck, its useless to argue with you so I will just call you a fucking retard and go about my day.

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 12:47 AM

In 2004.... One Wal-Mart store with 200 “associates” costs taxpayers over $420,000 per year in government assistance to the poor.

Don't even get me started on the millions in cash incentives they receive from local governments to open new stores. In many cases they are given the land to build on and the city hooks them up for free with water, sewer, etc... all paid by you. The American taxpayer. They also receive millions a year in cash incentives to keep the stores they build, where they are.

They have already put the mom and pops out of business.

Do I really need to mention anything about the chinese?

Holy fuck some of you are stupid as shit on this subject.

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EliteWebmaster

Didn't Walmart shut down the whole store and left town the last time some idiots tried to strike or form a union?

I don't know did they? do some fucking research. 3/4 of the people on this board don't know shit. Unless you are currently sober, he knows all about shit.

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Exactly.

If FUCKING WalMart paid and provided health insurance at reasonable levels, WE wouldn't have to pick up the tab!

Check this shit out:

Walmart Workers To Get No-Cost Surgery At Mayo Clinic, Other Top Hospitals

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1958673.html

This morning I ran out of toilet paper. I thought to myself... where the fuck can i get toilet paper to wipe my ass with at 1am? Fuck I dont want to go to walmart. But that was the only place available. At the moment there are no alternatives. I could have wodded up a piece of paper and get all the starch out of it, but Ive grown accustomed to soft delicate paper to wipe my anus clean.

More proof walmart owns my ass.

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam

Walmart won out in this -- it seems to be a few hundred of their 1.4 million US employees walked off their jobs today. So, I suppose that their workers accept the conditions of their employment.

Walmart employees are just doing the best they can and I am fortunate I am not one of them ...

Walmart employees are pussies.

These guys took over the factories and used GM products to build weapons.

DTK · 11-24-2012, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Just wondering if I have this right. Walmart makes so much money that they should just give everyone a raise to almost double what minimum wage is, thus making it where no mom & pop operation can get any employees?

Were you asking anyone specifically?

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by beemk

Walmart employes like 4 million people. Twice as much as the second largest employer in the country.

They are the largest employer in the world. They set the standards on pay.
If they are forced to raise wages, other big box retailers would have to follow suit in order to compete.

Meanwhile, walmart accepts corporate welfare in numerous ways and china is polluting the world and growing stronger.

The only way for Americans to really compete at this point in manufacturing, is flood the prison system with low waged workers for .50 and hour.

If companies like Unicor have their way, that's where we are headed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Prison_Industries

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286

Facts arent biased You fund Walmart thru your tax dollars. They move in, they a get big tax break guess who pays for that? you. Those people who work for them make no money, have no insurance get sick and go to the hospital who pays for it? You They dont make enough for housing who pays for it again? you. Meanwhile Walmart makes 16 billion and you defend them for fucking you. lol They pay their people shit ,the plant is closed you got a family to feed or you're a single mom or not college smart. So you work at walmart, they dont give you full time. Once someone is in that hole they rarely get out because the hole just keeps getting bigger and bigger.

good post

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte

I turn on the local news and see that walmart workers are striking in Milwaukee this morning.. These people must think that because Obama won he's got their back on this.

I am going to laugh when they all lose their jobs. Don't they know how easy it is to replace them?

Merry Christmas Walmart employees.

I have a Christmas present for you, its a box and your mind is in it.

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless

Walmart is a job for a high school kid. It isn't a career. They only get customers via price. It's not like they can attract customers through store ambiance. People who want to raise wages at Walmart are the same ones who want Hooters to also hire 70 year old women with bad teeth and a mastectomy to serve beer and wings. Walmart isn't the problem. People shopping there and allowing them to put mom and pop stores out of business to get a few dollars In savings are the problem. Every dollar you spend is a vote, use your money to get what you want while keeping local businesses healthy and your community will thrive. Walmart won't raise wages, but people don't need to shop there either.

Your logic has many flaws and you fail to see the bigger economic picture.

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

walmart should be forced out of business....then we could go back to nice stores...and have nice products, not always made in the cheapest place.

i personally never shop there anyway
maybe time to do something with my domains madincan and madebycdn

putting walmart out of business would throw the economy into a great depression.

Walmart could do there part to the grow the middle class. Everyone else in America is taking pay cuts but the waltons just keep raking in the dough at the expense of us taxpayers.

astronaut x · 11-24-2012, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Assistant managers typically don't make very much money. Manager salaries are all over the place as well. Go to any neighborhood mom-and-pop shop that has a few employees. Ask what their "assistant managers" make and if they have any benefit options at all.

I have met countless "assistant managers" that make $10 an hour. No benefits. No bonuses.

Your argument is with the retail business, not Walmart.

all thanks to walmart.

martinsc · 11-24-2012, 02:00 AM

NYRangers · 11-24-2012, 03:02 AM

If you did, you would do everything you could to cut costs. (Sorry if this was brought up but I got nauseous on the first page with the bleeding heart crap)

How many go off shore to save on taxes that would help the plight of these distraught workers? (catch the sarcasm)

You people are pathetic. You want the government out of "our business" but you want it here.

Be thankful that most of these people are actually working. Check out the demographics of the employees before you start crying foul. I think I read somewhere that most Walmart employees have a job, not a career. Think about it.

pimpmaster9000 · 11-24-2012, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

I wish all of them would go on strike. Wal-Mart workers? reliance on public assistance due to substandard wages and benefits has become a form of indirect public subsidy to the company. In effect, Wal-Mart is shifting part of its labor costs onto the public.

this is what is destroying my 3rd world shit hole country completely...so sad to see the USA going the same way....

Minte · 11-24-2012, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x

I have a Christmas present for you, its a box and your mind is in it.

Another of the GFY simpletons with an opinion and nothing to back it up.

Now that the Obama gang thinks they have business where they want it, they are embolden. Yet they forget that it's business that has the cash. Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays.

Here is a short list of where the Obama/democrat campaign funds come from. Do you see the pattern. The top number over every contributor is to the democrats. The lower to the republicans.

American Fed. of State, County, & Municipal Employees
Dem - $40,281,900
Rep - $547,700

Intel Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Dem - 29,705,600
Reb - 679,000

National Education Association
27,679,300
2,005,200

Service Employees International Union
26,368,470
98,700

Communication Workers of America
26,305,500
125,300

Service Employees International Union
26,252,000
1,086,200

Laborers Union
25,734,000
138,000

American Federation of Teachers
25,682,800
200,000

United Auto Workers
25,082,200
182,700

Teamsters Union
24,926,400
1,822,000

Carpenters and Joiners Union
24,094,100
658,000

Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
23,875,600
226,300

United Food and Commercial Workers Union
23,182,000
334,200

AFL-CIO
17,124,300
713,500

Sheet Metal Workers Union
16,347,200
342,800

Plumbers & Pipefitters Union
14,790,000
818,500

Operating Engineers Union
13,840,000
2,309,500

Airline Pilots Association
12,806,600
2,398,300

International Association of Firefighters
12,421,700
2,685,400

United Transportation Workers
11,807,000
1,459,300

Ironworkers Union
11,638,900
936,000

American Postal Workers Union
11,633,100
544,300

Nat'l Active & Retired Fed. Employees Association
8,135,400
2,294,600

Seafarers International Union
6,726,800
1,281,300

TheSquealer · 11-24-2012, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

It's not only about supply and demand.

There is a PROBLEM with WalMarts ENORMOUS profits while the workers live in poverty and lean on the taxpayer.

How exactly is 3-4% annual profits "enormous"?

BlackCrayon · 11-24-2012, 07:49 AM

"Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays."

And that doesn't seem wrong to you? They were doubling their salary while wanting to cut the workers wages in half. They didn't care about the company and while unions have become corrupt themselves, without them they probably would of just fired everyone and hired new people at 10 bucks an hour. It seems if the majority of companies had their way, we'd be going back to the industrial revolution working conditions.

TheSquealer · 11-24-2012, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

And that doesn't seem wrong to you?

Of course its seems wrong. Typical union bluster in its usual "us against them" fashion. Union member go hungry? Really? Not a very good reason to join a union. Obviously absurd and there's a reason unions are dying in the USA... why follow this sort of stupidity?

BlackCrayon · 11-24-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Of course its seems wrong. Typical union bluster in its usual "us against them" fashion. Union member go hungry? Really? Not a very good reason to join a union. Obviously absurd and there's a reason unions are dying in the USA... why follow this sort of stupidity?

because otherwise those at the top will double their salary while cutting the workers wages in half. unions have largely lost their way and some people think that the jolly good ceo's and such would treat their workers fairly without them but history has shown otherwise and it seems to be happening again.

TheSquealer · 11-24-2012, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

because otherwise those at the top will double their salary while cutting the workers wages in half.

Uhm... sounds like you made that up. Completely.

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unions have largely lost their way and some people think that the jolly good ceo's and such would treat their workers fairly without them but history has shown otherwise and it seems to be happening again.

See, that's the problem. "Fairly". You and unions have to rely on ambiguous and gray concepts like "fair" because that way, goals can never be reached and the fight will always be there.

There is no such thing as "fair" just like the usual BS of taxes and "paying your fair share". No one can define "fair". There is no universal understanding of "fair" as its a subjective concept, forged in ones own personal lack of intelligence, reason and accountability.

The power of unions lies in the rhetoric of "unfair". Thats all they talk about. Everything is "unfair" until a new contract is signed. By the time that contract is concluded and its time to negotiate a new contract, everything, not surprisingly becomes "unfair" again.

Unions are cancer. They are not about fair. They are about taking money and power from the weak. They are about the weak being manipulated into believing everything is constantly "unfair". A message that the uneducated and unskilled are eager to buy.

I have a lot of family that are union members and growing up, I got to watch everyone discuss about how everything was "unfair" while at the same time, they were ALL (all their friends) doing everything they could to rip off job sites, steal tools and all while arguing non stop about how they should be doing as little as humanly possible for the greatest possible pay.

BlackCrayon · 11-24-2012, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Uhm... sounds like you made that up. Completely.

See, that's the problem. "Fairly". You and unions have to rely on ambiguous and gray concepts like "fair" because that way, goals can never be reached and the fight will always be there.

There is no such thing as "fair" just like the usual BS of taxes and "paying your fair share". No one can define "fair". There is no universal understanding of "fair" as its a subjective concept, forged in ones own personal lack of intelligence, reason and accountability.

The power of unions lies in the rhetoric of "unfair". Thats all they talk about. Everything is "unfair" until a new contract is signed. By the time that contract is concluded and its time to negotiate a new contract, everything, not surprisingly becomes "unfair" again.

Unions are cancer. They are not about fair. They are about taking money and power from the weak. They are about the weak being manipulated into believing everything is constantly "unfair". A message that the uneducated and unskilled are eager to buy.

I have a lot of family that are union members and growing up, I got to watch everyone discuss about how everything was "unfair" while at the same time, they were ALL (all their friends) doing everything they could to rip off job sites, steal tools and all while arguing non stop about how they should be doing as little as humanly possible for the greatest possible pay.

So i guess you believe that workers don't deserve any rights and if they don't like it, they should just quit. it must be nice living in your black and white world where everything is so simple and easy.

"Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m while preparing to file bankruptcy"

"And a number of top executives reportedly saw massive pay raises, some nearly doubling their salary."

and i was wrong, they only wanted the workers to take a 30% wage cut.

brassmonkey · 11-24-2012, 09:00 AM

the unions are hitting these companies at the worst of times.

woj · 11-24-2012, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

So i guess you believe that workers don't deserve any rights and if they don't like it, they should just quit. it must be nice living in your black and white world where everything is so simple and easy.

"Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m while preparing to file bankruptcy"

"And a number of top executives reportedly saw massive pay raises, some nearly doubling their salary."

and i was wrong, they only wanted the workers to take a 30% wage cut.

it all depends how you view things, you view this as malice/greed...

all while there is a logical explanation: no one wants to be in charge of a sinking ship, so the company has to pay more to keep the management around... same supply/demand concept that applies to the low level workers...

Barry-xlovecam · 11-24-2012, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by astronaut x

Walmart employees are pussies.

These guys took over the factories and used GM products to build weapons.

No, they just are not willing to risk the little they have now.

This is now and that was then. The problem is the same really but the solutions need updating.

There are some jobs that cannot be sent to low labor cost countries and there is nothing to gain by playing American workers against foreign workers ... We are seeing the results of that now.

qwe · 11-24-2012, 09:22 AM

before calling others stupid you should look at yourself... even if government hooks them up they don't do it out of a good faith, there's obviously huge benefit to local government and community... government never does anything for nothing

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Originally Posted by astronaut x

In 2004.... One Wal-Mart store with 200 ?associates? costs taxpayers over $420,000 per year in government assistance to the poor.

Don't even get me started on the millions in cash incentives they receive from local governments to open new stores. In many cases they are given the land to build on and the city hooks them up for free with water, sewer, etc... all paid by you. The American taxpayer. They also receive millions a year in cash incentives to keep the stores they build, where they are.

They have already put the mom and pops out of business.

Do I really need to mention anything about the chinese?

Holy fuck some of you are stupid as shit on this subject.

beemk · 11-24-2012, 09:25 AM

I would like to see what mom and pop stores pay compared to walmart. Either way if walmart is paying above minimum wage isn't it the gov's fault for not having the minimum wage higher? I have some employees that I pay maybe 25% higher than walmart pays theirs. To find those employees I hired and fired 10 or so for each good employee I found. I believe that the people walmart hires probably arent smart or competant enough to get higher paying more skilled jobs anywhere else. You guys should be happy that walmart provides so many people with jobs. They employ 1% of the country.

http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay

TheSquealer · 11-24-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

So i guess you believe that workers don't deserve any rights and if they don't like it, they should just quit. it must be nice living in your black and white world where everything is so simple and easy.

"Former Hostess Twinkies CEO tripled salary to $2.5m while preparing to file bankruptcy"

"And a number of top executives reportedly saw massive pay raises, some nearly doubling their salary."

and i was wrong, they only wanted the workers to take a 30% wage cut.

I'm talking about unions. I'm not talking about Hostess or any single example of anything to illustrate a point. And it how retarded Hostess management and labor are, doesn't change anything I said. The company is obviously poorly run. Unions demanding more of anything isn't going to make it a successful company when its always in financial trouble and dying.

We live in a capitalist economy. Its not always perfect. But pointing out rare imperfections and exceptions to the rule, doesn't mean its "broken". It means that like all things which are man made, its imperfect. The USA is an economic powerhouse because on the whole, it seems to work pretty good.

No where in the world does a poor person feel that everything is "fair".
No where in the world does a poor person accept responsibility for being poor.

Rochard · 11-24-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

The only actual net increase in your communities taxes would be a small amount of property taxes if any. The sales taxes are just collected by taking existing sales from other merchants.

Wal Mart replaced a business that had closed. When the "Family owned Rainedbow Market" closed down we were all disappointed and said "It's because of the economy".

The "Rainbow Market" was the anchor of the complex, and within month the two other businesses in the complex also shut down - Taco Bell and a another restaurant. Our best hope was that someone - anyone - would open up a new business there.

Now we have Wal Mart which has three times as many employees as the Rainbow Market. Wal Mart doesn't have health benefits? Well, the employees at the Rainbow Market didn't have health benefits either.

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Originally Posted by Nasty

One of my sons has worked at walmart for over a year while he is going to school. Most hours he gets is 32 and even with the 95% profit share / bonuses he gets quarterly, he still qualifies for aid and is considered near poverty level. They cut almost everyone's hours last month to 24 a week so they would have enough in the budget budget to pay overtime this month. Now he is working crazy hours that will continue until new years. fuck walmart

Would your son had made more money working at Burger King?

When I was a kid I worked four jobs and I didn't have health benefits.

Rochard · 11-24-2012, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

Exactly.

If FUCKING WalMart paid and provided health insurance at reasonable levels, WE wouldn't have to pick up the tab!

Check this shit out:

Walmart Workers To Get No-Cost Surgery At Mayo Clinic, Other Top Hospitals

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_1958673.html

McDonalds is the second largest employer in the US. How many of them have health benefits?

Rochard · 11-24-2012, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte

Now that the Obama gang thinks they have business where they want it....

Holy cow you are a sore loser. You see everything through politics.

Your party gave us a candidate with a 25% failure rate who left office with a 34% approval rating. You lost.

Minte · 11-24-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

"Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays."

And that doesn't seem wrong to you? They were doubling their salary while wanting to cut the workers wages in half. They didn't care about the company and while unions have become corrupt themselves, without them they probably would of just fired everyone and hired new people at 10 bucks an hour. It seems if the majority of companies had their way, we'd be going back to the industrial revolution working conditions.

However you want to look at it. This is how it works. The 1% never lose.

tony286 · 11-24-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte

Another of the GFY simpletons with an opinion and nothing to back it up.

Now that the Obama gang thinks they have business where they want it, they are embolden. Yet they forget that it's business that has the cash. Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays.

Here is a short list of where the Obama/democrat campaign funds come from. Do you see the pattern. The top number over every contributor is to the democrats. The lower to the republicans.

American Fed. of State, County, & Municipal Employees
Dem - $40,281,900
Rep - $547,700

Intel Brotherhood of Electrical Workers
Dem - 29,705,600
Reb - 679,000

National Education Association
27,679,300
2,005,200

Service Employees International Union
26,368,470
98,700

Communication Workers of America
26,305,500
125,300

Service Employees International Union
26,252,000
1,086,200

Laborers Union
25,734,000
138,000

American Federation of Teachers
25,682,800
200,000

United Auto Workers
25,082,200
182,700

Teamsters Union
24,926,400
1,822,000

Carpenters and Joiners Union
24,094,100
658,000

Machinists & Aerospace Workers Union
23,875,600
226,300

United Food and Commercial Workers Union
23,182,000
334,200

AFL-CIO
17,124,300
713,500

Sheet Metal Workers Union
16,347,200
342,800

Plumbers & Pipefitters Union
14,790,000
818,500

Operating Engineers Union
13,840,000
2,309,500

Airline Pilots Association
12,806,600
2,398,300

International Association of Firefighters
12,421,700
2,685,400

United Transportation Workers
11,807,000
1,459,300

Ironworkers Union
11,638,900
936,000

American Postal Workers Union
11,633,100
544,300

Nat'l Active & Retired Fed. Employees Association
8,135,400
2,294,600

Seafarers International Union
6,726,800
1,281,300

You are funny its the bakers fault not the douchebag management that were taking 70 to 100 percent raises. You have to come up with a new straw man unions make up less than 7 percent of the work force. May old Obama won because he had better ideas then the same tried bullshit your side has been pedaling for years.

Minte · 11-24-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Holy cow you are a sore loser. You see everything through politics.

Your party gave us a candidate with a 25% failure rate who left office with a 34% approval rating. You lost.

I've said before, It doesn't make any difference to my lifestyle who sits in the Whitehouse.So you can save your sore loser nonsense.

Whether you want to accept it or not, I do care about the people that work for us. I also care about people that have lost their homes due to the recession. And for those people it can't and won't improve with this anti-business attitude.

TheSquealer · 11-24-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

McDonalds is the second largest employer in the US. How many of them have health benefits?

This is the problem with the direction of the nation. Its falling apart because "suck it up", "bust your ass", "learn" and "keep striving for something better" and "be successful" have long since been replaced with "hope and change" and "who's gonna give it to me?" and "what do you mean I can't rap??? - you don't know me!"

You're supposed to get a job digging ditches at 18. You're supposed to have 3 room mates, You're supposed to learn the value of hard work, of sacrifice and money. Your'e supposed to learn a strong work ethic. From that, you're supposed to want more, you're supposed to want to better yourself, educate yourself, improve your skills and to work for the things you want... not sit back and demand them as you do as little as humanly possible. You're not supposed to aspire to make $9.00 an hour as a grown adult and then bitch that life is unfair. The degree to which this nation has been dumbed down is astounding.

slapass · 11-24-2012, 09:39 AM

We are talking about an entry level job. You are surprised that the least skilled part of our work force is below the average? Even if they raise their wage and it trickles through society, they will still be on the bottom and thus low paid workers. People who take these jobs need the subsidies to go to school or train for better jobs that they then move to.

Being a "greeter" was never meant to be life time employment.

TheSquealer · 11-24-2012, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286

You are funny its the bakers fault not the douchebag management that were taking 70 to 100 percent raises. You have to come up with a new straw man unions make up less than 7 percent of the work force. May old Obama won because he had better ideas then the same tried bullshit your side has been pedaling for years.

You mean the "management" that gave themselves raises with the approval of the board of directors and shareholders?

Seems quite a few felt there was merit to it? I mean, its not like its a decision thats unilaterally made by a single individual as many attempt to make it sound.

Minte · 11-24-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286

You are funny its the bakers fault not the douchebag management that were taking 70 to 100 percent raises. You have to come up with a new straw man unions make up less than 7 percent of the work force. May old Obama won because he had better ideas then the same tried bullshit your side has been pedaling for years.

You will be affected Tony. Not me.
If you think Obama has your back, good luck with that.

slapass · 11-24-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

This is the problem with the direction of the nation. Its falling apart because "suck it up", "bust your ass", "learn" and "keep striving for something better" and "be successful" have long since been replaced with "hope and change" and "who's gonna give it to me?" and "what do you mean I can't rap??? - you don't know me!"

You're supposed to get a job digging ditches at 18. You're supposed to have 3 room mates, You're supposed to learn the value of hard work, of sacrifice and money. Your'e supposed to learn a strong work ethic. From that, you're supposed to want more, you're supposed to want to better yourself, educate yourself, improve your skills and to work for the things you want... not sit back and demand them as you do as little as humanly possible. You're not supposed to aspire to make $9.00 an hour as a grown adult and then bitch that life is unfair. The degree to which this nation has been dumbed down is astounding.

QFT

11-24-2012, 12:47 AM	#113
astronaut x Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2011 Location: From this www and beyond! Posts: 4,844	In 2004.... One Wal-Mart store with 200 “associates” costs taxpayers over $420,000 per year in government assistance to the poor. Don't even get me started on the millions in cash incentives they receive from local governments to open new stores. In many cases they are given the land to build on and the city hooks them up for free with water, sewer, etc... all paid by you. The American taxpayer. They also receive millions a year in cash incentives to keep the stores they build, where they are. They have already put the mom and pops out of business. Do I really need to mention anything about the chinese? Holy fuck some of you are stupid as shit on this subject. Last edited by astronaut x; 11-24-2012 at 12:49 AM..

11-24-2012, 02:00 AM	#124
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11-24-2012, 03:02 AM	#125
NYRangers Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 551	Anyone here operate a business If you did, you would do everything you could to cut costs. (Sorry if this was brought up but I got nauseous on the first page with the bleeding heart crap) How many go off shore to save on taxes that would help the plight of these distraught workers? (catch the sarcasm) You people are pathetic. You want the government out of "our business" but you want it here. Be thankful that most of these people are actually working. Check out the demographics of the employees before you start crying foul. I think I read somewhere that most Walmart employees have a job, not a career. Think about it. __________________ Understand the business before you open your mouth.

11-24-2012, 07:49 AM	#129
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	"Last week the bakers found out first hand who has the power. 18,000 union members go hungry and the owners take their citation jets off to the islands for the holidays." And that doesn't seem wrong to you? They were doubling their salary while wanting to cut the workers wages in half. They didn't care about the company and while unions have become corrupt themselves, without them they probably would of just fired everyone and hired new people at 10 bucks an hour. It seems if the majority of companies had their way, we'd be going back to the industrial revolution working conditions. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

11-24-2012, 09:00 AM	#134
brassmonkey Pay It Forward Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Yo Mama House Posts: 77,045	the unions are hitting these companies at the worst of times. __________________ TRUMP 2025 KEKAW!!! - The Laken Riley Act Is Law! DACA ENDED - SUPPORT AZ HCR 2060 52R - email: brassballz-at-techie.com

11-23-2012, 10:45 PM	#104
EliteWebmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 3,975	Didn't Walmart shut down the whole store and left town the last time some idiots tried to strike or form a union?

11-24-2012, 12:00 AM	#110
baddog So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: the beach, SoCal Posts: 107,089	Just wondering if I have this right. Walmart makes so much money that they should just give everyone a raise to almost double what minimum wage is, thus making it where no mom & pop operation can get any employees?

11-24-2012, 09:25 AM	#138
beemk CLICK HERE Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 20,829	I would like to see what mom and pop stores pay compared to walmart. Either way if walmart is paying above minimum wage isn't it the gov's fault for not having the minimum wage higher? I have some employees that I pay maybe 25% higher than walmart pays theirs. To find those employees I hired and fired 10 or so for each good employee I found. I believe that the people walmart hires probably arent smart or competant enough to get higher paying more skilled jobs anywhere else. You guys should be happy that walmart provides so many people with jobs. They employ 1% of the country. http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-employees-pay __________________ I host with Vacares

11-24-2012, 09:39 AM	#147
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	We are talking about an entry level job. You are surprised that the least skilled part of our work force is below the average? Even if they raise their wage and it trickles through society, they will still be on the bottom and thus low paid workers. People who take these jobs need the subsidies to go to school or train for better jobs that they then move to. Being a "greeter" was never meant to be life time employment.