TGPs are dead....................... - GoFuckYourself.com

Harmon · 11-30-2012, 11:26 AM

Anybody that tells you that a good old fashion TGP can not generate sales or leads is lying to you. I am not a TGP/MGP owner. This is friendly advice to noobies.

First of all, with bandwidth being so cheap? Fuck it, throw some movie galleries or picture galleries out there. People around here tend to forget that it is hard to watch porn videos at home when the wife and kids are looming just mere inches away from your PC. This is a fact.

Guys like to watch, and they like to watch knowing that they possibly could get caught. Maybe not all guys, but yeah...

What does it hurt? You still have plenty of start of the web/old school surfers out there. Are they as prevalant as they were in 1998? Nope, but still. Why not? Throw up 12-15 pictures or a few videos and submit to those that still accept them. If you think nobody accepts handmade galleries? Think again. Think TheHun.net - think Patrick hasn't swapped out for the tube model for a good reason? I know why, and he still gets quality traffic. Why? He has never fucked anybody over.

I can think of at least a dozen people that still follow this model, and they are still there... operating like tubes did not exist. It's quality, not quantity... that's where a lot of you guys fail. I'll go on...

A million quality hits will generate more sales per surfer. Plain and simple. TheHun generates quality/bookmarked traffic. It get exposure... as much as the tubes you ask? No, that's apparent. However, may they come via search engines or sheer loyalty, they come - they buy - they remember.

Tubes? Fuck, where do I begin... It's a crap shoot. I can only imagine how many bots, scrapers, etc are scrubbing them out every minute. The thing is? There is no sales pitch. Not much of one anyways.

People inherently like to be sold things, otherwise infomercials would not exist. People want a deal. If you make it pretty, slap a bow on it - and throw it in their faces they will buy it.

Tubes are shooting themselves in the foot with cam pupunders, HD buttons that take you to a join page etc. It's bad, and they quality sucks.

All in all, build a better product, revert your mind back to the original model... let them steal it. Sue them, DMCA them, hire somebody - but in the end, people want substance.

Remember, when you get paid it's nice to go out and buy something awesome that you worked for. It feels good knowing you worked for it.

Hit that angle? And it's 1998 again. Man, I'm stoned.

CurrentlySober · 11-30-2012, 11:28 AM

i lick poo...

Evil Chris · 11-30-2012, 11:30 AM

Good post. You're in the mood to help today? I like it.

Now back to posting shock-value pics.

Harmon · 11-30-2012, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

i lick poo...

Harmon · 11-30-2012, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris

Good post. You're in the mood to help today? I like it.

Now back to posting shock-value pics.

Done

Yeah, I actually thought about giving back

brassmonkey · 11-30-2012, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris

Good post. You're in the mood to help today? I like it.

Now back to posting shock-value pics.

signupdamnit · 11-30-2012, 12:10 PM

TGPs aren't dead and will never be dead. At least not within the next decade. But they are declining. There is a reason all these TGPs are being sold lately. That's kind of deceiving though. It's not just TGPs it's the paysite affiliate. It's a combination of less sales and actually getting paid for a smaller amount of the sales you still generate as an affiliate. TGPs typically are affiliates to some degree.

The people selling aren't dumb. They know what they made per 1 million visitors and they compare it over time and see trends. If your traffic is declining and your $ per visitor is likewise decreasing it doesn't take a psychic to predict what will likely happen.

If you saw your revenue decrease in the last two years 40% and someone is offering you 1-3 years current revenue for your site then you are probably going to take it.

PR_Glen · 11-30-2012, 12:11 PM

we still have tgp guys making money with us. plenty making money with tubes also though so just a different sales method at the end of the day.

Harmon · 11-30-2012, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

we still have tgp guys making money with us. plenty making money with tubes also though so just a different sales method at the end of the day.

Our guys, as in OUR guys (employees) or our guys as in affiliates? I am just curious.

LeRoy · 11-30-2012, 12:17 PM

TGP's are not dead! Severely wounded yes

We have quite a few affiliates that own TGP's . They're still making daily sales to our program.

xNetworx · 11-30-2012, 12:18 PM

Best-In-BC · 11-30-2012, 12:32 PM

My TGP Network is doing not to bad

JamesM · 11-30-2012, 12:43 PM

Very true, there are tgp sites making bank., as times have changed , TGP's with a single page and only 20-40 galleries wont make you bank , affiliates have to work hard and stick to the plan.

very great read.
Thanks Harmon

pornguy · 11-30-2012, 12:50 PM

I have a number of affiliates that make great money using TGP/MGP sites.

Harmon · 11-30-2012, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesM

Very true, there are tgp sites making bank., as times have changed , TGP's with a single page and only 20-40 galleries wont make you bank , affiliates have to work hard and stick to the plan.

very great read.
Thanks Harmon

I wouldn't call it "bank", but there are guy out there pulling in some decent money. Times have changed.

Giving it is not selling it. Selling it is not an ENTER HERE hyperlink any longer. Selling it is about the pitch. School the end user about why it is that they can not function properly unless they join.

Use tube sites against them. Let them know the degraded quality, the lack on exclusivity. Make your back end fun, make it interactive. Make it an experience that they can not get outside of the back end of your member's area. Forums, social networking (internal), likes, dislikes... just like minded individuals being like minded with enough to keep them busy...

and then up sell mainstream dating (WHICH PAYS BTW) by taking your members through a couple of different domains in a frame.

In the end, all they want is to get laid. No, they are not fucking Alexis Texas, but it's REAL and the will credit you for the fat chick they fucked last week in the back of an F250.

Klen · 11-30-2012, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

Our guys, as in OUR guys (employees) or our guys as in affiliates? I am just curious.

Affiliates.

grzepa · 11-30-2012, 01:47 PM

Nice thread... maybe i'll build some tgps. Anyone knows of some cheap/easytouse tgp script ?

cybermike · 11-30-2012, 01:58 PM

Maybe.. but i know google has not been looking kindly to my little tgps this year

Va2k · 11-30-2012, 03:07 PM

80% of the time I love reading your post, and this one TOPS a lot of them off. Thanks for the info, it's weird shit like this I KNOW but forget about till it is brought back up ya know? Thanks man.
TOM

bluebook18 · 11-30-2012, 04:54 PM

lucas131 · 11-30-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss

arte ...

Ringo · 12-01-2012, 02:35 AM

thanks for your post. however the hun is there since many years...
TGP/MGP in 2013?

nikki99 · 12-01-2012, 03:40 PM

dead as rock and roll

L-Pink · 12-01-2012, 07:58 PM

bump …...

crazydollars · 12-01-2012, 08:03 PM

this thread sucks

CaptainHowdy · 12-01-2012, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lucas131

arte ...

epitome · 12-01-2012, 08:13 PM

According to Franck you could not post a thread like that when stoned.

Just like the propaganda video we know that you go out in black face and rape white women when high.

Nice troll attempt Harmon but you can't make sense when high.

RyuLion · 12-01-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki99

dead as rock and roll

HandballJim · 12-01-2012, 09:11 PM

some TGP's are like landmines though, so traffic keeps going to the well know trusted websites.

charlie g · 12-02-2012, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim

some TGP's are like landmines though, so traffic keeps going to the well know trusted websites.

huh?

5678

adultmobile · 12-02-2012, 07:21 AM

This post misses paul markham.

Harmon · 12-02-2012, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome

According to Franck you could not post a thread like that when stoned.

Just like the propaganda video we know that you go out in black face and rape white women when high.

Nice troll attempt Harmon but you can't make sense when high.

What video? What are you talking about? You are a moron, seriously.

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Originally Posted by crazydollars

this thread sucks

Thanks for you input, 8 post

The Porn Nerd · 12-02-2012, 11:59 AM

GREAT post Harmon! Thanks for reminding us of what we should already know....

But let's smoke a doob and brainstorm here a bit:

<///////////////////>~~~

Okay, can you list the TGPs that are still accepting submissions (NON-paid) besides The Hun?

Puff, puff, pass it on......

Nicky · 12-02-2012, 01:17 PM

So does anyone know how thehun makes money?

beks001 · 12-02-2012, 07:24 PM

I gave up on building galleries. But I'd like to get back into this. If I can find someone to pay to build them I might do so.

Supz · 12-02-2012, 08:20 PM

I thought this thread would be from 2007,8

epitome · 12-02-2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harmon

What video? What are you talking about? You are a moron, seriously.

Edit: I was going to be sarcastic in this reply, but that too would probably fly over your head so never mind.

geirlur · 12-03-2012, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky

So does anyone know how thehun makes money?

Kenny B! · 12-03-2012, 09:01 AM

We still produce movie and picture galleries and I often wonder if the time/energy/money spent making them is worth while. Most MGP's have turned into tubes, TGP's are still making sales, that I can confirm but will they end up as pin sites down the road as that format is now taking off.

The way I see it, the MGP's sole purpose was to promote a paysite with samples, the main purpose of most tubes is to get as many page views as possible and sell ad space by impression. The income from sending sales to sponsors isn't a priority anymore unfortunately.

Times change, it's a fact of life. A happy medium would be on pages with sponsored clips the ads are for the paysite uploading that 5+ minute clip. To give the content owner 1 link out of 8 ads on the page isn't right. To make matters worse some tubes are taking their share of the watermark too.

my 2 cents

alex.missyouth · 12-03-2012, 09:09 AM

Maybe yours are.

VenusBlogger · 12-03-2012, 11:21 AM

Any PAID Partner Accounts still WORTH paying?

I know video-post.com was worth it, but they sold the site to a big traffic guy who converted it into tube...

What about AL4A/WorldSex/Ampland?

still worth it paying the 100 bucks monthly?

SGS · 12-03-2012, 11:40 AM

Picture galleries are still very much worth it but affiliates have to know how to *sell* now. The scatter gun method of a few years ago is dead and gone. Every gallery and submission has to count now.

11-30-2012, 11:26 AM	#1
Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,000	TGPs are dead....................... Anybody that tells you that a good old fashion TGP can not generate sales or leads is lying to you. I am not a TGP/MGP owner. This is friendly advice to noobies. First of all, with bandwidth being so cheap? Fuck it, throw some movie galleries or picture galleries out there. People around here tend to forget that it is hard to watch porn videos at home when the wife and kids are looming just mere inches away from your PC. This is a fact. Guys like to watch, and they like to watch knowing that they possibly could get caught. Maybe not all guys, but yeah... What does it hurt? You still have plenty of start of the web/old school surfers out there. Are they as prevalant as they were in 1998? Nope, but still. Why not? Throw up 12-15 pictures or a few videos and submit to those that still accept them. If you think nobody accepts handmade galleries? Think again. Think TheHun.net - think Patrick hasn't swapped out for the tube model for a good reason? I know why, and he still gets quality traffic. Why? He has never fucked anybody over. I can think of at least a dozen people that still follow this model, and they are still there... operating like tubes did not exist. It's quality, not quantity... that's where a lot of you guys fail. I'll go on... A million quality hits will generate more sales per surfer. Plain and simple. TheHun generates quality/bookmarked traffic. It get exposure... as much as the tubes you ask? No, that's apparent. However, may they come via search engines or sheer loyalty, they come - they buy - they remember. Tubes? Fuck, where do I begin... It's a crap shoot. I can only imagine how many bots, scrapers, etc are scrubbing them out every minute. The thing is? There is no sales pitch. Not much of one anyways. People inherently like to be sold things, otherwise infomercials would not exist. People want a deal. If you make it pretty, slap a bow on it - and throw it in their faces they will buy it. Tubes are shooting themselves in the foot with cam pupunders, HD buttons that take you to a join page etc. It's bad, and they quality sucks. All in all, build a better product, revert your mind back to the original model... let them steal it. Sue them, DMCA them, hire somebody - but in the end, people want substance. Remember, when you get paid it's nice to go out and buy something awesome that you worked for. It feels good knowing you worked for it. Hit that angle? And it's 1998 again. Man, I'm stoned. __________________ [email protected]

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11-30-2012, 12:10 PM	#7
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	TGPs aren't dead and will never be dead. At least not within the next decade. But they are declining. There is a reason all these TGPs are being sold lately. That's kind of deceiving though. It's not just TGPs it's the paysite affiliate. It's a combination of less sales and actually getting paid for a smaller amount of the sales you still generate as an affiliate. TGPs typically are affiliates to some degree. The people selling aren't dumb. They know what they made per 1 million visitors and they compare it over time and see trends. If your traffic is declining and your $ per visitor is likewise decreasing it doesn't take a psychic to predict what will likely happen. If you saw your revenue decrease in the last two years 40% and someone is offering you 1-3 years current revenue for your site then you are probably going to take it. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want. Last edited by signupdamnit; 11-30-2012 at 12:12 PM..

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12-01-2012, 08:03 PM	#25
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Kenny B! Confirmed Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,716	We still produce movie and picture galleries and I often wonder if the time/energy/money spent making them is worth while. Most MGP's have turned into tubes, TGP's are still making sales, that I can confirm but will they end up as pin sites down the road as that format is now taking off. The way I see it, the MGP's sole purpose was to promote a paysite with samples, the main purpose of most tubes is to get as many page views as possible and sell ad space by impression. The income from sending sales to sponsors isn't a priority anymore unfortunately. Times change, it's a fact of life. A happy medium would be on pages with sponsored clips the ads are for the paysite uploading that 5+ minute clip. To give the content owner 1 link out of 8 ads on the page isn't right. To make matters worse some tubes are taking their share of the watermark too. my 2 cents __________________ Kenny -at- YourPaysitePartner.com Skype: kennyb514 Do business with us: Your Paysite Partner Kenny's Pennies Sticky Dollars Radical Cash Indie Bucks Stand Ahead Read My Ambush Interview Here

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VenusBlogger So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,540	Any PAID Partner Accounts still WORTH paying? I know video-post.com was worth it, but they sold the site to a big traffic guy who converted it into tube... What about AL4A/WorldSex/Ampland? still worth it paying the 100 bucks monthly?

12-03-2012, 11:40 AM	#42
SGS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mallorca - Nottingham Posts: 5,176	Picture galleries are still very much worth it but affiliates have to know how to sell now. The scatter gun method of a few years ago is dead and gone. Every gallery and submission has to count now. __________________ See sig...