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Old 01-23-2013, 08:32 AM   #1
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CCBILL Open Letter to employees... $200.00 challenge...Serious offer!

Greetings friends,colleagues, industry people,lurkers, scammers, ass hats, know it alls, jerk offs, fuck nuggets, and any I may have missed!

Straight to the point! Ccbill is a wonderful got damn awesome fucking first rate hell of a company! We do not have any major complaints about ccbill at this time!

However we have 1 challenge that we are forced to issue as we have *PATIENTLY* PATIENTLY PATIENTLY and did I say PATIENTLY waited for over 2 months for a definitive response from multiple ccbill reps about when the inaccurate and erroneous form hits and form submission stats reports would be fixed and working again.

We do not feel it is acceptable or excuseable that the specific stats that we feel are most vital which are form submissions and form hits are not working and there fore 100% useless and simply taking up space in the admin portal.

We respectfully request that if the form submissions report are never going to be fixed and reporting 100% accurate information then please consider removing the form reports tab from the admin altogether.

It is like flashing a lollipop or candy bar to a kid making the kid think they are getting a treat and then yanking that treat away as they try to take a bite.

The working response for this issue seems to be this..."we are aware of the problem and are working on it but have no time frame to give for the fix"

Which brings me to the point of this open letter.

The form submission report is so vital to me personally and I know several others who understand the *VALUE* and usefulness of this report as it really does help you understand and better tweak your sales trends!

We are willing to throw $200.00 at this problem in the hopes of helping to raise this as a priority to address.

It would be nice to have others chip in on the offer and be able to collectively make a cash offer to anyone in ccbill who can come in this thread and post an honest estimated time for fixing the stats reports once and for all.

Simply asking about the fix to multiple reps and supervisors has not been very effective....and neither has remaining quiet about it like our partner beaner has suggested resulted in any thing productive on this issue.

SO we have to get creative and try and help ccbill to understand why this issue is and should be of top priority!

So in summary we are ready to give $200.00 cold hard cash to anyone who can get a ccbill rep to go on record and give us a time frame for this fix!

This is not intended to harm ccbill or shame ccbill as you know they are the best at what they do, and since we are heavily invested with each other we have to help each other find ways to improve upon our effectiveness and our business success.

We feel that having these stats working properly and counting and reporting every single form hit and every single form submission would really help us increase revenue and therefore increase revenue for ccbill.

So whos with us....not that I expect any of you to rally behind me here...some things in life you have to go at alone if need be so long as your cause is Just.

This is a just cause and I hope the issue gets presented to some one high enough in the company to issue a directive to fix this problem at once.

we are offering $200.00 to any ccbill employee who can go on record and give us a date and time for the fix to be completed.

On that date and time if we log in to our ccbill admin and the form hits reports and form submissions are 100% accurate like they are supposed to be and like they were from 2004 to 2010 then they will receive a money order for $200.00

I wish I could do more...I wish I did not have to come to gfy to raise awareness on the issue but gfy support tickets have been the way to get troublesome issues resolved.

We love you ccbill please abide by the request and cooperate with the challenge. If anyone wishes to add a few bucks to the cause please do not hesitate maybe if we can raise the threshold high enough we can have some funds left over to pay the programmer the necessary funds to fix this problem.

Thanks for your time hoping for a speedy and amicable fix for those form submission reports. Thanks everyone have a nice day and ccbill keep up the great work with everything else that you do!
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:36 AM   #2
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cliff notes?
We are offering ccbill employees $200.00 to go on record and give us a definitive answer to win the form submission and form hits report will be working again.

simply calling and asking has not been very productive in getting the stats fixed so we are forced to try and come up with a way that is amicable non hostile that will get these stats working again.

Thats all no drama....no B.S. we respectfully ask as clients who need and vaslue accurate reliable working stats that this issues is vital to many webmasters who use the stats to refine and tweak their set ups.

When enough people came to gfy and expressed disdain over ccbill processing for file lockers file shares and other questionable things the power of the industry was clearly demonstrated and ccbill immediately changed course.

We simply hope that we can get ccbill to also change course and fix those stats that thousands have made posts about in recent years.

This is a vital issue for us....not sure why few others don't fully understand why these particular stats are so vital...bu that is another lecture for another thread.

We have been patient...very patient....we have placed phone calls....we have sent emails...this has been going on for months and is actually getting worse as wee examine it.

The stats were off by 40-50% now they are off almost 75% and that is simply unacceptable. We just know that this issue is more important than worrying about ass hats and trolls coming inhere calling me psycho....

we know that is going to happen at any minute but the issue still needs to be addressed whether I am psycho crazy or not is irrelevant!
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you just said you have the best form rate or whatever and your saying the stats are all wrong? The cliff notes are even more then what 99% can read on here without forgetting what day it is
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oh wow another one. CCbill stats suck get over it
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Would any of you ass hats who besmirch me drive a fucking car that had no speedometer, no gas gauge, no temp sensor....or no running stats?!?!?

Of course you would not.

You know why??? Because how the fuck can you plan a long trip without knowing what your engine temp stats are...or you gas supply stats are...or if your altenator is charging properly??

You could not and would not drive a car like that unless it was an extreme emergency!

So asking me to run my business everyday and try and increase business or even maintain my business without an accurate gauge of conversions...an accurate guage of traffic is fucking insane?!?!

Maybe I am insane but there is no maybe insane about driving a car with no dash board data.

That is exactly the same exact concept here! You would not say shut th3e fuck up and drive that fucked up car you dumb bitch and stop complaining.

The car cannot be operated properly or even lawfully without instrument stats panel!

so why do inbreds on gfy act like a car does not need accurate and working stats!

Would you allow a doctor to work on your body if it was disclosed to you that sometimes this doctors prognosis is accurate and sometimes its not??

No you would seek a new doctor.....but I have to sit here and explain to bots trols and ass hats you must be because a real webmaster is going to want and need those stats to be 100% ACCURATE! PERIOD END OF STORY

200 smackaroos to anyone who can get a definite answer from ccbill for us on this inaccurate stats issue! this not about slow loading stats....this is about stats that are so far off it is insulting and becoming hard to analyze the data.

A car with a no dash board or running gauges is a car that is very limited in use and you are taking a risk and gamble driving a car with no running stats....or having a doctor operate on you who has constant inaccurate prognosis for his clients.
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I love it.... why does asking for correct stats piss off so many bots and trolls?

It does not even piss of the billing companies as much as the ass hats and trolls...

Hey if you are not a troll why does it piss you off that an industry colleague who has never caused you personal harm and never attacked you....why does it piss you off that I ask for my stats to work.

Why does it make you so slimey and full of rage that I wish my cars dash board to be accurate and working when I drive?

Is it really deplorable and unforgivable that someone who cares about the industry would ask for accurate stats?

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More like "Oh no, my car's tire pressure is low!"

It's drive-able, just not up to your standards. If you don't like it, move to another processor. It's not that hard.

Also, if you were making more than 2-3 sales a day, CCBill might just give a fuck. You're krill in an ocean of whales.

Btw, this is why "models" should stay in front of a camera.
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Why not be done with it and move to another processor? I mean like really...
LOL I know just flick a switch an be done right? just that simple...LOL Well I would happen to agree but I am told switching would be too troublesome at this time.

I make the argument that I don't see how anything could take priority over clean stats.

We tried to get zomabio to process for us again and we reached out made them some sincere apologies even though they fucked our payouts up repeatedly and I supposed they decided to themselves look if we fuck up swirlgirls payouts she will hound us on the boards and so its not worth the risk.

We said look zomabio beaner will deal with you we won't make no posts as long as the payouts are not delayed by some ridiculous time frame like many of their clients are now.

Zombaio was a good choice because no set up costs easy integration and very very good thru put and rebills...

We have verotel but for some tech reasons beyond my understanding we cannot integrate them at this time because it requires special programning and the turstworthy reliable programmers are back logged with work.

So we do not have 750.00 sitting in petty cash to get new visa registration with another 3rd party...

and we donot have 1500 sitting in petty cash for a digital high risk adult merchant account.

So we are stuck with old faithful and trusted ccbill and since we pay them and they work for us we have to make sure they realize how important accurate stats are to an operation.

there is no wiggle room and no 2 ways about it. If my stats were clean you would never see me on the board in a thread like this.

I have waited over 2 years for an answer to a problem that they very well know about but have no idea when it will be fixed.

seriously 2 years later and still no idea why my form submissions and form hits are inaccurate and not being counted properly?

We did our own calculations based on reported data are currently for most of january showing an above 100% form submission percentage.

Now you might think that is exceptional however good it sounds it is still unacceptable and impossible to get above 100% form submissions if all data is accurate!

So that tells me that data some where in the equation is false...and the problem must be corrected in order to arrive and document our true numbers!

I used to think maybe it was just our account that kept having these issues but the ccbill rep slipped and admitted that he had another identical call yesterday from some one else with the same exact question about discrepancies in form hits and form submissions and approval totals.

So I rack my brain trying to figure out why no one posts about it if others are having this issue and getting no resolution?

Well at least you know why we have no choice at this time but to stick it out and respectfully assert our concerns and make sure they understand that we will need those stats to be accurate and we have almost exhausted all of our patience behind this issue.
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More like "Oh no, my car's tire pressure is low!"

It's drive-able, just not up to your standards. If you don't like it, move to another processor. It's not that hard.

Also, if you were making more than 2-3 sales a day, CCBill might just give a fuck. You're krill in an ocean of whales.

Btw, this is why "models" should stay in front of a camera.
Oh are you sure you want to convey to the public that ccbill does not give fuck about you if you do not make more than 3 sales?

Are you basing that information on personal knowledge or rumor.

I would love ccbill to come in here and correct you and tell the adult industry that they treat all clients the same....whether its 10 sales a day or 50 sales a day.
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LOL I know just flick a switch an be done right? just that simple...LOL Well I would happen to agree but I am told switching would be too troublesome at this time.
So you are smart enough to figure out the intricate credit card/bank conspiracies, but you can't quite figure out how to switch processing methods? Or even just adding an extra one?

Whoever told you that switching would be too troublesome either doesn't want to do it, doesn't know how to do it, or has an agenda. Find someone else.
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We said look zomabio beaner will deal with you we won't make no posts as long as the payouts are not delayed by some ridiculous time frame like many of their clients are now.

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now that shit is funny, I kinda said the same shit because they were so long and even had new info added.
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Oh are you sure you want to convey to the public that ccbill does not give fuck about you if you do not make more than 3 sales?

Are you basing that information on personal knowledge or rumor.

I would love ccbill to come in here and correct you and tell the adult industry that they treat all clients the same....whether its 10 sales a day or 50 sales a day.
This is a fact. Money talks is a fact. Just like any sponsor or processor out there. They take care of the big fish first and foremost. Then comes the little fish.

I've ran and opened up sites that processed through ccbill and we had a ton of issues getting things approved. Certain content that did not get approved because it was against their TOS, although other sponsors using the same type of content were processing with ccbill just fine. Those other sponsors were pushing 50+ sales a day per site, we were not. It was even brought to their attention and they simply did not care.

Not that I'm knocking ccbill at all. I've been promoting ccbill sites since I started in 2003-2004 and never had any issues. I still receive my checks on time, 99% of the time.
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i always thought that when i left ccbill, id be able to post more candidly about what i thought of some clients posts...but i still keep holding back
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LOL damn now even peabody is an ass hat...well so be it I go atthis alone if I have to...I know what I know

and guess what you could have 2000 ass hats fill the thread and call me psycho or crazy but none of you experts will dare call me a liar!

I am waiving 200 bucks around for some one to tell me when my form submits will match prefectly with my form approvals

and I am surrounded by salivating wolves who get perverted enjoyment attacking me and I get the same enjoyment because it brings attetnion to the fact that stats are still ERRONEOUS and useless!

I know that those stats should be working and so does multiple ccbill employees so now its 300.00 dollars to the one who can get an answer to the inaacurate stats issues!
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i always thought that when i left ccbill, id be able to post more candidly about what i thought of some clients posts...but i still keep holding back
Have a few drinks and try again later ;)
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i always thought that when i left ccbill, id be able to post more candidly about what i thought of some clients posts...but i still keep holding back
LOL sometimes saying you are holding back is enough though Mark ;)
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I love the captcha code on the join page ... at least it doesn't work. If it did I would laugh so damn hard at you trying to prevent people from signing up.
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Translation: Op is a fucktarded fucky fuck fuckaroo
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i always thought that when i left ccbill, id be able to post more candidly about what i thought of some clients posts...but i still keep holding back
None of you control and dictate reality...sure you control the monies that flow thru but not common sense and intellect

and 50 posts later nobody wants to talk about inaccurate form submissions or form hits....not anyone...what is the big fear? Why can't anyone comment on form submissions and form hits counting correctly...LOL

As if dodging the issue and feigning ignorance and name calling is going to make the issue of false form submission counts disappear?

I feel the same as you corvette whats keeping you from holding back....perhaps I am holding back to...did that ever dawn on anyone...LOL

I will take on the whole silly thread of you and will not stop asking when the form submission approvals are going to match whats in the reports.

No one wants to come in here and say that stats should be accurate....I love it....you can pretend perception is reality all you want...but reality is reality and in reality stats that do not match and look clean like they should are useless stats.

Sorry there is one shred of common sense and intellect left on this forum because I see what makes people fear to ask questions...fear of ridicule fear of retribution fear of reprisal...

I have none of those fears because when you ask a direct question and get jerked around for 2 years it tells you plenty
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Swirlsgirl...... Do you know that the "HITS" depend on several things?

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Some people are retards and fill it out many times, and also look above.

While these things can be used as a tool, don't base your life and entire business around them.
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You have $200 to waste on retarded shit but not $750 to improve your business? Get your priorities straight lady.
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You get 20 adderral if you get Ccbill to take her seriously and answer her question...
That's the short version, then read the thread After that
And give me some cliff notes please
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I think the Cliff Notes are longer then the original post.
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i always thought that when i left ccbill, id be able to post more candidly about what i thought of some clients posts...but i still keep holding back
thats cause you are way too nice
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a condensed version at that
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Hi SwirlsGirl,

Maybe this might help you out : Install Google Analytics code on each page of your website, including the join page. Setup the funnel with the join page as the tip of the funnel, and the return page as the goal.

This will give you a much clearer and more accurate picture of your users movements through your site, help with ab testing, and much more.

Best of all, you get to keep the $200 you offered to ccbill in your pocket.
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None of you control and dictate reality...
None of us are claiming to, but it is clear you are so removed from reality y pot should be locked up.

If you dislike ccbill, switch to epoch. If you don't have the 750 fee, give up and go home.
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