Chinese Army Unit Is Seen as Tied to Hacking Against U.S. - GoFuckYourself.com

Heath · 02-19-2013, 09:03 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/19/te...t-us.html?_r=0

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On the outskirts of Shanghai, in a run-down neighborhood dominated by a 12-story white office tower, sits a People?s Liberation Army base for China?s growing corps of cyberwarriors.

The building off Datong Road, surrounded by restaurants, massage parlors and a wine importer, is the headquarters of P.L.A. Unit 61398. A growing body of digital forensic evidence ? confirmed by American intelligence officials who say they have tapped into the activity of the army unit for years ? leaves little doubt that an overwhelming percentage of the attacks on American corporations, organizations and government agencies originate in and around the white tower.

An unusually detailed 60-page study, to be released Tuesday by Mandiant, an American computer security firm, tracks for the first time individual members of the most sophisticated of the Chinese hacking groups ? known to many of its victims in the United States as ?Comment Crew? or ?Shanghai Group? ? to the doorstep of the military unit?s headquarters. The firm was not able to place the hackers inside the 12-story building, but makes a case there is no other plausible explanation for why so many attacks come out of one comparatively small area.

?Either they are coming from inside Unit 61398,? said Kevin Mandia, the founder and chief executive of Mandiant, in an interview last week, ?or the people who run the most-controlled, most-monitored Internet networks in the world are clueless about thousands of people generating attacks from this one neighborhood.?

Other security firms that have tracked ?Comment Crew? say they also believe the group is state-sponsored, and a recent classified National Intelligence Estimate, issued as a consensus document for all 16 of the United States intelligence agencies, makes a strong case that many of these hacking groups are either run by army officers or are contractors working for commands like Unit 61398, according to officials with knowledge of its classified content.

dyna mo · 02-19-2013, 10:29 AM

XCLLNT article,t hx for the link.

CT-Content · 02-19-2013, 10:29 AM

The United States has to be one of the most stupidest countries ever.

CommonSense4u · 02-19-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CT-Content

The United States has to be one of the most stupidest countries ever.

Most stupidest... ? Did you really just type that?

_Richard_ · 02-19-2013, 10:32 AM

break in and kidnap all the families!

we can post pictures of the executions at high noon and dance in the streets

AdultPornMasta · 02-19-2013, 10:35 AM

You know our State Departement under The Chosen One has said that there is little that we can do about it.

Right.

To date the only US responses have been defensive. They are trying to tell us that the USA could not launch a cyber-attack which would blow the Chineses Scumsucking Hackers off the planet?

Fuck.

Phoenix · 02-19-2013, 10:55 AM

i am sure the usa and all other countries also have a division trying to get info.

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE · 02-19-2013, 11:09 AM

Yeah it's called the NSA

Heath · 02-19-2013, 12:54 PM

Anything this administration has setup to 'protect Americans' has failed miserably. So I doubt we'll be 'protected' or even launch an attack anytime soon.

sperbonzo · 02-19-2013, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CT-Content

The United States has to be one of the most stupidest countries ever.

HA! Classic!!!

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DWB · 02-19-2013, 01:22 PM

Drone strike. Put up or shut up.

Tom_PM · 02-19-2013, 01:26 PM

Should we announce that we have a cyber hacking division and what they're working on?

The fact that this was published only tells me that not publishing it had reached a point of lesser value than making it known publicly.

nexcom28 · 02-19-2013, 01:32 PM

The USA is fcuked. Chinese and Turkish hax0rs are the best. Fact.

Heath · 02-19-2013, 07:11 PM

UPDATE :
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories...02-19-19-28-03

US READY TO STRIKE BACK AGAINST CHINA CYBERATTACKS

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- As public evidence mounts that the Chinese military is responsible for stealing massive amounts of U.S. government data and corporate trade secrets, the Obama administration is eyeing fines and other trade actions it may take against Beijing or any other country guilty of cyberespionage.

According to officials familiar with the plans, the White House will lay out a new report Wednesday that suggests initial, more-aggressive steps the U.S. would take in response to what top authorities say has been an unrelenting campaign of cyberstealing linked to the Chinese government. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly about the threatened action.

The White House plans come after a Virginia-based cybersecurity firm released a torrent of details Monday that tied a secret Chinese military unit in Shanghai to years of cyberattacks against U.S. companies. After analyzing breaches that compromised more than 140 companies, Mandiant has concluded that they can be linked to the People's Liberation Army's Unit 61398.

Military experts believe the unit is part of the People's Liberation Army's cyber-command, which is under the direct authority of the General Staff Department, China's version of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. As such, its activities would be likely to be authorized at the highest levels of China's military.

2012 · 02-19-2013, 07:31 PM

Smells like a load of horse shit.

AdultPornMasta · 02-19-2013, 07:45 PM

It's all horseshit.

The Chinese are indeed attacking the USA in an undeclared Cyber War.

Put about a hundred kiddie coders on bringing down Chinese networks and they would last only a short time.

The New Yellow Peril could be brought to its knees in only a matter of weeks.

Matt 26z · 02-19-2013, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultPornMasta

You know our State Departement under The Chosen One has said that there is little that we can do about it.

Right.

To date the only US responses have been defensive. They are trying to tell us that the USA could not launch a cyber-attack which would blow the Chineses Scumsucking Hackers off the planet?

Fuck.

There are no rules of cyber war yet, so acceptable retaliation is undetermined. Do you put sanctions on China? Bomb the building the hackers are in?

And I'm quite certain that for every Chinese hack that comes to light, there were many more successful US hacks of Chinese companies. I have no doubt that the US has the best cyber army in the world.

lucas131 · 02-19-2013, 07:54 PM

the truth is that usa is pussies and everyone knows every hacker on the world is russian just pussies dont say truth because they are pussies

Captain Kawaii · 02-19-2013, 08:02 PM

Complicated story.

Chinese military commanders are tired of CParty in Beijing as evidenced by their actions against the Japanese with radar locks. Acting solo. Mil commanders do the work, the CParty tops get rich.

Shanghai wants to be in charge. Chinese businessmen are involved with top people in DC in business and etc...Heavy on the etc...

We are hearing a lot of blah-ba-dee-blah. Crushing China will crush the world economy.

If US wanted to do anything they would freeze all the bank accounts in US belonging to Chinese billionaires. Wouldn't that be a cluster fuck. lol. they wont. US cannot afford to.

US and Israel can melt (with a computer virus) Iranian nuclear facilities but can do nothing to China or better, NKorea? Laughable.

AdultPornMasta · 02-19-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

There are no rules of cyber war yet, so acceptable retaliation is undetermined. Do you put sanctions on China? Bomb the building the hackers are in?

And I'm quite certain that for every Chinese hack that comes to light, there were many more successful US hacks of Chinese companies. I have no doubt that the US has the best cyber army in the world.

Well, if that is the case, we ain't doin' a fuckin' thing with it!

Which gives me an idea................................

Do you think that the USA public would pay to have the Chineses attacked?

Pretty easy you know.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm............................ ....................

xXXtesy10 · 02-19-2013, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CommonSense4u

Most stupidest... ? Did you really just type that?

This board is fucking full of these Euro trash ESL posters now.

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AdultPornMasta Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,506	You know our State Departement under The Chosen One has said that there is little that we can do about it. Right. To date the only US responses have been defensive. They are trying to tell us that the USA could not launch a cyber-attack which would blow the Chineses Scumsucking Hackers off the planet? Fuck. __________________ "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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Tom_PM Porn Meister Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,443	Should we announce that we have a cyber hacking division and what they're working on? The fact that this was published only tells me that not publishing it had reached a point of lesser value than making it known publicly. __________________ 43-922-863 Shut up and play your guitar.

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AdultPornMasta Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 1,506	It's all horseshit. The Chinese are indeed attacking the USA in an undeclared Cyber War. Put about a hundred kiddie coders on bringing down Chinese networks and they would last only a short time. The New Yellow Peril could be brought to its knees in only a matter of weeks. __________________ "The world is full of obvious things which nobody by any chance ever observes."

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Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	Complicated story. Chinese military commanders are tired of CParty in Beijing as evidenced by their actions against the Japanese with radar locks. Acting solo. Mil commanders do the work, the CParty tops get rich. Shanghai wants to be in charge. Chinese businessmen are involved with top people in DC in business and etc...Heavy on the etc... We are hearing a lot of blah-ba-dee-blah. Crushing China will crush the world economy. If US wanted to do anything they would freeze all the bank accounts in US belonging to Chinese billionaires. Wouldn't that be a cluster fuck. lol. they wont. US cannot afford to. US and Israel can melt (with a computer virus) Iranian nuclear facilities but can do nothing to China or better, NKorea? Laughable. Last edited by Captain Kawaii; 02-19-2013 at 08:03 PM..