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Old 02-20-2013, 11:12 PM   #1
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Obenberger get in the gun thread, you just got owned by me

read topic, I know that's a stretch, but read it and act accordingly.
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retired from porn... i got another 20 years till I stop workin now.....
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I like you Scott, but you owned no one and no answer anyone gives you is going to satisfy you. It really is that simple. You don't get it; we understand. It is okay, you live in Canada, you do not need to understand.
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You "owned" JD? I've met JD and he's cool as fuck! You sure he didn't own you?
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I like you Scott, but you owned no one and no answer anyone gives you is going to satisfy you. It really is that simple. You don't get it; we understand. It is okay, you live in Canada, you do not need to understand.
nobody has given me a real answer other than 'i want it'

people fall back to the constitution and that you can't ban semi auto cause of that, but the government banns full auto, how is that possible? it doesn't make sense.

people think I want all guns banned, but I never said that. ever

no one has given a reasonable self defense reason thus far.

and obenberger's answer was a real slap of stupidity in it's entirety. Just cause he's a lawyer doesn't mean he has a CLUE what he is talking about. He missed the entire point of what I'm asking.

not that any answer is good enough, I just want a good answer. even a half assed answer would be fine as long as it took into account what I'm actually asking without going hog wild on assumptions that are false and totally off topic.

and yes, I need to understand. US guns seep into Canada every day across the border and kill canadians. the USA gets it's nose in the drug enforcement affairs of other nations, why can't canada get involved in the affairs of the USA if your polices are hurting us, or is it one sided that ONLy the US can interfere with other nations?
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You "owned" JD? I've met JD and he's cool as fuck! You sure he didn't own you?
he got totally owned, he made assumptions that weren't there and quoted NRA crap without looking at what was actually presented to him.

it's one thing for a GFYer to do that, it's another for a lawyer to do it.
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nobody has given me a real answer other than 'i want it'
Why isn't that good a enough answer? That's what freedom is about. We have the choice.

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and yes, I need to understand. US guns seep into Canada every day across the border and kill canadians
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I don't even have to open the thread to know there no way an obese moron like Sleazy "owned" anyone.
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and yes, I need to understand. US guns seep into Canada every day across the border and kill canadians.
your issue is with border control,not with the human rights of a neighboring country.


if you have a problem with guns being smuggled into your country, i'd suggest working on fixing your borders instead of trying to understand the u.s. constitution via an adult message board.
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he got totally owned, he made assumptions that weren't there and quoted NRA crap without looking at what was actually presented to him.
You mean by posting incorrect info like this?

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but the government banns full auto"
No idea what other thread you are barking on about and TBH I don't really care. Not even sure why I looked at this thread as I knew it would be full of ignorance and misspellings.
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nobody has given me a real answer other than 'i want it'
You of all people should understand such a simplistic answer.

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no one has given a reasonable self defense reason thus far.
Another simple one.

The guy who is going to break into your home (for reasons unknown) will probably have a firearm. If you are unlucky enough to be there during that time, have a firearm and know how to use it, you greatly increase your odds of surviving the incident.

Yes, it is possible you could throw pots, pans and Twinkies at him, but that will only increase his odds of survival and greatly reduce yours.
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Like I said, no answer will satisfy you.
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Another simple one.

The guy who is going to break into your home (for reasons unknown) will probably have a firearm. If you are unlucky enough to be there during that time, have a firearm and know how to use it, you greatly increase your odds of surviving the incident.

Yes, it is possible you could throw pots, pans and Twinkies at him, but that will only increase his odds of survival and greatly reduce yours.
Twinkies is the answer
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people fall back to the constitution and that you can't ban semi auto cause of that, but the government banns full auto, how is that possible? it doesn't make sense.

The U.S. government does not ban full auto weapons. Your information on this incomplete and inaccurate, and in reading your points on the other thread, those inaccuracies are too widespread to bother listing.

I love you man, but this is not a subject that you are particularly well informed on.




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they were not in the constitution and are therefore banned now
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Another simple one.

The guy who is going to break into your home (for reasons unknown) will probably have a firearm. If you are unlucky enough to be there during that time, have a firearm and know how to use it, you greatly increase your odds of surviving the incident.

Yes, it is possible you could throw pots, pans and Twinkies at him, but that will only increase his odds of survival and greatly reduce yours.
How often are these people looking to steal versus kill? I'd say stealing is 98% the motive.

If you are armed with a gun you force them into using theirs, good chance you end up shot
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nobody has given me a real answer other than 'i want it'

people fall back to the constitution and that you can't ban semi auto cause of that, but the government banns full auto, how is that possible? it doesn't make sense.

people think I want all guns banned, but I never said that. ever

no one has given a reasonable self defense reason thus far.

and obenberger's answer was a real slap of stupidity in it's entirety. Just cause he's a lawyer doesn't mean he has a CLUE what he is talking about. He missed the entire point of what I'm asking.

not that any answer is good enough, I just want a good answer. even a half assed answer would be fine as long as it took into account what I'm actually asking without going hog wild on assumptions that are false and totally off topic.

and yes, I need to understand. US guns seep into Canada every day across the border and kill canadians. the USA gets it's nose in the drug enforcement affairs of other nations, why can't canada get involved in the affairs of the USA if your polices are hurting us, or is it one sided that ONLy the US can interfere with other nations?
SEMI AUTOMATICS DO NOT FIRE ANY FASTER THAN A REVOLVER... Comprende? STOP listening to the media describing them as some military weapon all the time. An ASSAULT rifle only differs from a NON ASSAULT rifle in color and looks. I have repeating rifles from the 1800's that hold 10 or more rounds. Plus they are lever action. And they have a screw that is machined into the lever that comes back and hits the trigger. Its not semi automatic, but I can fire all 10 rounds fast or faster than a semi automatic.

There are people that can walk in with 2 revolvers and fire off 12 shots in seconds. There is no RAPID FIRE option on a semi auto ar-15. It is just a foot in the door for them to do a gun grab. Its rather obvious to anyone with a lick of common sense.. Thats why you can't understand it I guess.

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How often are these people looking to steal versus kill? I'd say stealing is 98% the motive.

If you are armed with a gun you force them into using theirs, good chance you end up shot
you raise a good point i've been thinking about. in part., i've been thinking about the old expression "you don't bring a knife to a gun fight"

we are brainwashed to believe the only answer to firepower is more (and greater) firepower.

as you point out, bringing a gun escalates the issue.
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you raise a good point i've been thinking about. in part., i've been thinking about the old expression "you don't bring a knife to a gun fight"
That theory has been dis-proven on many occasions. Altamont ring a bell?
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"I want it" is used to justify damn near every travesty in society today as is. Obesity, alcohol, drugs, debt, tobacco, etc. etc.

Before anyone says "but those don't kill innocent parties"… Yes, yes they do. Alcohol, drugs, and tobacco all kill innocent parties. They are all needless wants.

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That theory has been dis-proven on many occasions. Altamont ring a bell?
exactly!

the song gimme 3 steps comes to mind too. diplomacy.
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nobody has given me a real answer other than 'i want it'

people fall back to the constitution and that you can't ban semi auto cause of that, but the government banns full auto, how is that possible? it doesn't make sense.

people think I want all guns banned, but I never said that. ever

no one has given a reasonable self defense reason thus far.

and obenberger's answer was a real slap of stupidity in it's entirety. Just cause he's a lawyer doesn't mean he has a CLUE what he is talking about. He missed the entire point of what I'm asking.

not that any answer is good enough, I just want a good answer. even a half assed answer would be fine as long as it took into account what I'm actually asking without going hog wild on assumptions that are false and totally off topic.

and yes, I need to understand. US guns seep into Canada every day across the border and kill canadians. the USA gets it's nose in the drug enforcement affairs of other nations, why can't canada get involved in the affairs of the USA if your polices are hurting us, or is it one sided that ONLy the US can interfere with other nations?
What guns do you want banned???
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SEMI AUTOMATICS DO NOT FIRE ANY FASTER THAN A REVOLVER... Comprende? STOP listening to the media describing them as some military weapon all the time. An ASSAULT rifle only differs from a NON ASSAULT rifle in color and looks. I have repeating rifles from the 1800's that hold 10 or more rounds. Plus they are lever action. And they have a screw that is machined into the lever that comes back and hits the trigger. Its not semi automatic, but I can fire all 10 rounds fast or faster than a semi automatic.

There are people that can walk in with 2 revolvers and fire off 12 shots in seconds. There is no RAPID FIRE option on a semi auto ar-15. It is just a foot in the door for them to do a gun grab. Its rather obvious to anyone with a lick of common sense.. Thats why you can't understand it I guess.
oh jesus fuck, bann ALL handguns. stop being a gun nut trying to find some loophole so you can not be scared anymore and have your pee shooter
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The U.S. government does not ban full auto weapons. Your information on this incomplete and inaccurate, and in reading your points on the other thread, those inaccuracies are too widespread to bother listing.

I love you man, but this is not a subject that you are particularly well informed on.

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name one state where a person can own a fully automatic weapon without getting serious permits and such.

you're splitting hairs. full auto is illegial most everywhere in the USA even though you are allowed them in the constitution... semi auto CAN be banned as well in the same way
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Another simple one.

The guy who is going to break into your home (for reasons unknown) will probably have a firearm. If you are unlucky enough to be there during that time, have a firearm and know how to use it, you greatly increase your odds of surviving the incident.

Yes, it is possible you could throw pots, pans and Twinkies at him, but that will only increase his odds of survival and greatly reduce yours.
idiot, read what I've been saying
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your issue is with border control,not with the human rights of a neighboring country.


if you have a problem with guns being smuggled into your country, i'd suggest working on fixing your borders instead of trying to understand the u.s. constitution via an adult message board.
funny, the USA doesn't say that about it's drug problem...........
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funny, the USA doesn't say that about it's drug problem...........
funny, the canada says that about its gun problem..........

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2...nion_says.html

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funny, the canada says that about its gun problem..........

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2...nion_says.html
'the canada"?????


It's soo good to know the US education system works soo well...............
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Yeah and when he was 9 or 10 he moved to USA and became a US Citizen, therefore it doesn't matter... Why? Because a shit ton of people around that time who are and were considered American's were born in different countries... That's what USA was built on; people immigrating to USA for a better or new life.
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Yeah and when he was 9 or 10 he moved to USA and became a US Citizen, therefore it doesn't matter... Why? Because a shit ton of people around that time who are and were considered American's were born in different countries... That's what USA was built on; people immigrating to USA for a better or new life.
maybe 50 years ago they came to the USA for a better life, based on standard of living of most people in the USA now most coming to the USA just want a new life and are running away from something. Lots leave a better life behind. Or they're Mexicans that can't afford to make it anywhere else.

go to other countries around the world and start asking about the USA, unless you want to be an actor or have a very specialized career, people around the world don't want to immigrate to the USA.

the public healthcare sucks
guns are everywhere
unemployment is rampant in many areas
the banking industry has a history of robbing people
the US is always involved in a war somewhere
taxes are very high when you consider the lack of public healthcare
huge public debt, much higher per person than Canada and and Canada has healthcare
Gangs are out of control in many major cities
Murder rates are high in low income areas - where immigrants tend to move to first
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keep telling yourself everyone wants to move to the USA.... just isn't so anymore. The USA isn't in the top of the list for most people looking for a new country these days, maybe in your Granddad's era, not now.

fact is, the USA is a pile of people who think they are above international community cause they had a great military..... but the rest of the world is catching up FAST....
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maybe 50 years ago they came to the USA for a better life, based on standard of living of most people in the USA now most coming to the USA just want a new life and are running away from something. Lots leave a better life behind. Or they're Mexicans that can't afford to make it anywhere else.

go to other countries around the world and start asking about the USA, unless you want to be an actor or have a very specialized career, people around the world don't want to immigrate to the USA.

the public healthcare sucks
guns are everywhere
unemployment is rampant in many areas
the banking industry has a history of robbing people
the US is always involved in a war somewhere
taxes are very high when you consider the lack of public healthcare
huge public debt, much higher per person than Canada and and Canada has healthcare
Gangs are out of control in many major cities
Murder rates are high in low income areas - where immigrants tend to move to first
Crime
poor public education


keep telling yourself everyone wants to move to the USA.... just isn't so anymore. The USA isn't in the top of the list for most people looking for a new country these days, maybe in your Granddad's era, not now.

fact is, the USA is a pile of people who think they are above international community cause they had a great military..... but the rest of the world is catching up FAST....


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10% of the combatants in ww1 were american. you barely made a presence....

slightly more in ww2, but not much
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10% of the combatants in ww1 were american. you barely made a presence....

slightly more in ww2, but not much
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'the canada"?????


It's soo good to know the US education system works soo well...............
nice try but you've read enough of my posts to not call me an idiot so i'll glean from that you are dodging the link i posted.

nevertheless, it's a legitimate reply to your concern. you would be better served to work on solving your problem via border control than trying to change another country's constitution to suite you.

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funny, the USA doesn't say that about it's drug problem...........
there is no public information that the u.s. has tried to change a foreign country's constitution to deal with our drug smuggling problem.
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slightly more in ww2, but not much
seriously? someone in canada not acknowledging the war in the pacific. eh?
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seriously? someone in canada not acknowledging the war in the pacific. eh?
seriously, do you have ANY idea how many troops were involved from all the countries in WW2?


or do you think the world just revolves around America? WW2 went on for years before America even got involved.
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nice try but you've read enough of my posts to not call me an idiot so i'll glean from that you are dodging the link i posted.

nevertheless, it's a legitimate reply to your concern. you would be better served to work on solving your problem via border control than trying to change another country's constitution to suite you.

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there is no public information that the u.s. has tried to change a foreign country's constitution to deal with our drug smuggling problem.
The USA puts huge political pressure on foreign nations to deal with drug problems the seep into the USA through it's borders. Don't like having the same thing brought back in your face?

If it's possible to ban automatic weapons in the USA without changing the constitution, then it's possible to ban semi auto the same way. don't care if it's a state or federal level, just fix the problem.

I apologize if I missed your link, and I'll reserve the standard idiot comment for your reply me here...so take heart, you've started to give an intelligent answer but it's not done yet.....
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