Who Are The Biggest Programs? Do you trust them? - GoFuckYourself.com

myjah · 03-12-2013, 04:52 PM

Name them. Who are the biggest programs out there?

Do you prefer to work with bigger programs where you can promote multiple sites/niches and your payment be compiled for all? Do you tend to find that bigger programs become generic and you convert better with small, extremely niched sites/programs?

AJHall · 03-12-2013, 05:02 PM

I haven't been an affiliate or pushed traffic in years but always had good results with mixing them up and sometimes the smaller, less promoted networks do just as well as the big ones.

Zuzana Designs · 03-12-2013, 05:10 PM

I think it all depends on your niche to establish who is the biggest. I have a small list of sponsors I promote. All of them have been around for years and I know them personally so I trust them.

signupdamnit · 03-12-2013, 05:22 PM

I put a lot of stock in vibes and attitudes from their reps on forums as far as who to trust. Owners typically hire employees based on their preferences and expectations so how their employees act speaks volumes as to how the company is on the inside and their ethics. GFY is an invaluable tool in this way.

bigluv · 03-12-2013, 06:02 PM

Media Revenue is pretty big. ...

Doesn't necessarily mean you should promote them though.

Dirty F · 03-12-2013, 06:46 PM

Some of the biggest programs, the older ones, are shady as fuck. Actually most of them are. They all seem to exist for 1 thing anymore. Fucking over the surfer as much as they can.

myjah · 03-12-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Some of the biggest programs, the older ones, are shady as fuck. Actually most of them are. They all seem to exist for 1 thing anymore. Fucking over the surfer as much as they can.

OK, I agree, some of the older big programs- and small ones - are shady as fuck. Just ast some of the current big and small and medium programs are too.

But now - Who are the big ones and which ones are trustworthy?

xxxjay · 03-12-2013, 11:08 PM

We aren't the biggest, but you can trust us. We ain't going anywhere and we are actually growing. See sig...

2013 · 03-12-2013, 11:24 PM

i like the people in my sig and there amazing site

Roald · 03-12-2013, 11:30 PM

I hardly trust anyone, most will fuck you over in a heart beat for a $

Phoenix · 03-12-2013, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald

I hardly trust anyone, most will fuck you over in a heart beat for a $

this.....

Angelicion · 03-13-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

I hardly trust anyone, most will fuck you over in a heart beat for a $

Hello,

Quoted for the truth. From personal experiences in the family, when it comes down to business and money, never ever trust your entourage including and especially your closest friends as well as your own relatives. They will stab you in the back for far less than you may think.

Kind Regards,
Angelicion

scubadiver626 · 03-13-2013, 12:35 AM

I just type in the programs name, using the search function on this board.

Learn from others mistakes.

HAPPYPEEKERS · 03-13-2013, 12:36 AM

Adult Friend Finder still pays out after over 12 years and Fetish Hits still pays out as well for us.

Hey girl.. long time no see :-)

Supz · 03-13-2013, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 2013

i like the people in my sig and there amazing site

lol, sell out

Supz · 03-13-2013, 12:40 AM

I would say Topbucks is pretty big. I would say I trust them. You never hear a bad word about pimproll. I dont really promote them but I know they are big and have a good reputation. Datinggold for dating and webcams I would say is pretty big. I trust them. Just to name a few big ones.

Far-L · 03-13-2013, 01:18 AM

Not only can I name companies that I trust but I can say very specifically why I trust them and why they deserve your trust as well.

When we were in the Acacia law suit, all the companies that participated in the Defense Group, the ones that really fought, not the ones that claimed to donate but did not, the ones that really went the distance... well they all had to show their books and have full disclosure and deal with all sorts of intrusive requests for documentation per deposition.

ONLY COMPANIES THAT WERE WILLING TO BE THAT HONEST ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS, their books, their proprietary trade secrets, etc., WERE ABLE TO EVEN JOIN THE GROUP.

Only companies that are honest to such a degree as that are ones that I would trust, like ATK and Gamelink to name a couple as memory serves.

DWB · 03-13-2013, 04:49 AM

I trust very few companies, especially large ones. Not going to make a list or anything, but this business is just too shady and full of shit bags to have any real trust. That goes for billing companies, pay sites, and so on. I've always looked at the porn business as a high risk business and expect some degree of loss, so if it happens I'm not really surprised.

Big does not mean trustworthy. Neither does small. But usually the big ones either are shady or end up shady. Cheesy and obviously BS board reps don't help their case either, saying dumb things like, "we're converting like it's 1999." Instantly lands them on the shady list. Sometimes trying too hard and being too fake about it makes you look like you're up to no good.

Dirty D · 03-13-2013, 08:28 AM

Not the biggest, but we have been here for Webmasters for over 13 years.
Trust means that your check shows up on time and never bounces.

Grapesoda · 03-13-2013, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Roald

I hardly trust anyone, most will fuck you over in a heart beat for a $

Roald, over the years I produced content for several programs and I can think of several that are very straight ahead

Ross · 03-13-2013, 08:58 AM

You can always trust PIMPROLL.

PR_Glen · 03-13-2013, 09:22 AM

regarding over saturation we still have a number of niches that aren't blanketed everywhere that have converted exceedingly well over the years. Feel free to hit me up to go over what may or may not work for you. I was never one for smoke and mirrors ;)

xxxjay · 03-13-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB

Cheesy and obviously BS board reps don't help their case either, saying dumb things like, "we're converting like it's 1999."

Every once in a while we do get something like that. I can't say that about everything but some sites we've done lately have performed awesome. Is that a crime?

Jman · 03-13-2013, 09:30 AM

Doing some ex-members mailers there is a few I can say I trust no doubt ;)

NaughtyRob · 03-13-2013, 09:33 AM

We are not one of the biggest, but then again I don't know makes a program big. We have been around since 2000 and still going strong. We are solid, you can trust us.

purescotty · 03-13-2013, 10:09 AM

"Big" can mean many things, but I would say 12 years later and growing, we are healthy.

We like to pride ourselves on being real people, not shady salesmen, I refuse to pretend to be 'that guy' and throw around jargon. I have seen emails from other programs with pitches so bad they come off as spam.

Our company was founded by an Affiliate and true lover of porn, no investment bullshit here. We are almost always available to talk shop, discuss concerns, etc.. and anything else for that matter. (I'm a huge film fan so i'm always open to those discussions as well.)

CyberHustler · 03-13-2013, 10:13 AM

No trust, just calculated risks.

Rebel D · 03-13-2013, 10:18 AM

Pornpros, Bangbros and Pimproll i personally trust only because i know the people behind them.

MaDalton · 03-13-2013, 10:28 AM

there are also european companies like cashdorado.com or partnercash.com that are in the biz for more than 10+ years and that we work with almost since our start 10 years ago

they have paid us a lot and never missed one single payment

Roald · 03-13-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda

Roald, over the years I produced content for several programs and I can think of several that are very straight ahead

I can think of a whole lot who are very honest and straight ahead too. However fully trusting? Meh....

Bman · 03-13-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Supz

I would say Topbucks is pretty big. I would say I trust them. You never hear a bad word about pimproll. I dont really promote them but I know they are big and have a good reputation. Datinggold for dating and webcams I would say is pretty big. I trust them. Just to name a few big ones.

I would agree. Topbucks has been one of the best i have ever dealt with if not the best and never heard anything bad about pimproll either. In fact I dont ever really remember any drama on these boards ever about those 2 companies...kinda says everything to tell you the truth.

LeRoy · 03-13-2013, 10:36 AM

Use your best judgement... and keep your guard up

If you're converting a program and they're paying you. I'd ride that till the cows come home.

Personally.. if I knew my siggy was cheating affs. I wouldnt put my real name on it nor make friends with affiliates

That's just me

henriduf · 03-29-2013, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebel D

Pornpros, Bangbros and Pimproll i personally trust only because i know the people behind them.

I am willing to know if anybody does money from Bangbros.

I have had an account and send them traffic but never had a subscription.

By the way, i joined bangbros once with my own URL and affiliate code and it did not appear in the stats.

So for me it is a scam.

Affil4you · 03-29-2013, 02:57 AM

Good question here guys !

Affil4you · 03-29-2013, 02:59 AM

Not to full ourself but we are pretty good as a MOBILE affiliate program. if "Big" means "quality" and "knowledge", we 're in the business for 10 years now and so far the clients are satisfied with their cash earned ;) www.affil4you.com

If you have adult mobile traffic, you want to talk to us !
Have a good business ! And maybe see u in Phoenix

CurrentlySober · 03-29-2013, 03:02 AM

I trust pimproll - Even when a small payment they send me doesn't get cashed (Cause I lose the check) they add it onto my next check automatically...

Relentless · 03-29-2013, 04:37 AM

There are several trustworthy large companies in adult. The first thing I look at is how they treat consumers. If they are 'screwing the surfer' they are just as likely to screw you next. If they treat their customers well, and you bring them customers, they will treat you well. As for big companies I'd trust, Pimproll, Gamma, Homegrown, PinkVisual, Payserve, Streamate and some others immediately come to mind.

Two things you should always look at are recent site reviews from reputable websites and websitesecure.org seals. If their sites get good reviews and their sites are treating consumers in an ethical manner.... That's useful information for any affiliate - and most of the major review sites already report which adult sites are websitesecure.org certified right on their own review pages. Contact me any time for more information.

WoW! · 05-28-2013, 09:33 PM

Lol nobody mention Nastydollars haha...Im pretty sure they are the biggest and most trusted program out there.

Marquis85 · 05-29-2013, 05:01 AM

I don't trust any affiliate program - mainstream or adult. (Adult significantly less, obviously.) When money is involved, everyone is looking to fuck you.

MPGdevil · 05-29-2013, 07:40 AM

Size doesn't matter. Honesty and profit does.

03-12-2013, 04:52 PM	#1
myjah Back in the harbor Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 11,482	Who Are The Biggest Programs? Do you trust them? Name them. Who are the biggest programs out there? Do you prefer to work with bigger programs where you can promote multiple sites/niches and your payment be compiled for all? Do you tend to find that bigger programs become generic and you convert better with small, extremely niched sites/programs? __________________ VP of Marketing AVN Media Network Skype: AVNJill [email protected]

03-12-2013, 05:02 PM	#2
AJHall Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,306	I haven't been an affiliate or pushed traffic in years but always had good results with mixing them up and sometimes the smaller, less promoted networks do just as well as the big ones. __________________ Owner, Elevated X - The 4 Time Award Winning Adult CMS Software Company Used by More Than 2000 Adult Sites.

03-12-2013, 05:10 PM	#3
Zuzana Designs All Your Design Needs Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: [email protected] Posts: 20,787	I think it all depends on your niche to establish who is the biggest. I have a small list of sponsors I promote. All of them have been around for years and I know them personally so I trust them. __________________ Website Design - Consulting - Development sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com - See Our Work Need a SFW landing page or tour for age verification? Last edited by Zuzana Designs; 03-12-2013 at 05:13 PM..

03-12-2013, 05:22 PM	#4
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	I put a lot of stock in vibes and attitudes from their reps on forums as far as who to trust. Owners typically hire employees based on their preferences and expectations so how their employees act speaks volumes as to how the company is on the inside and their ethics. GFY is an invaluable tool in this way. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

03-12-2013, 11:08 PM	#8
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,483	We aren't the biggest, but you can trust us. We ain't going anywhere and we are actually growing. See sig... __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

03-12-2013, 06:02 PM	#5
bigluv Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 850	Media Revenue is pretty big. ... Doesn't necessarily mean you should promote them though.

03-12-2013, 06:46 PM	#6
Dirty F Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 59,204	Some of the biggest programs, the older ones, are shady as fuck. Actually most of them are. They all seem to exist for 1 thing anymore. Fucking over the surfer as much as they can.

03-12-2013, 11:24 PM	#9
2013 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: lollling Posts: 4,390	i like the people in my sig and there amazing site

03-12-2013, 11:30 PM	#10
Roald SecretFriends.com Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: IMC Headquarters Posts: 27,880	I hardly trust anyone, most will fuck you over in a heart beat for a $ __________________ WE ARE BUYING PAY SITES! CONTACT ME ClubSweethearts \| ManUpFilms \| SinfulXXX \| HOT * AdultPrime * HOT Paying webmasters since 1996! Contact: r.riepen @ sansylgroup.com \| skype:roaldr \| icq:

03-13-2013, 12:35 AM	#13
scubadiver626 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,034	I just type in the programs name, using the search function on this board. Learn from others mistakes. __________________ AsiaMoviePass My Best Rebilling Site

03-13-2013, 12:36 AM	#14
HAPPYPEEKERS Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Margaritaville Posts: 7,555	Adult Friend Finder still pays out after over 12 years and Fetish Hits still pays out as well for us. Hey girl.. long time no see :-) __________________ Please Read All Of My Posts In A Sarcastic Tone So You Get The Full Effect!! HappyPeekers - April

03-13-2013, 12:40 AM	#16
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	I would say Topbucks is pretty big. I would say I trust them. You never hear a bad word about pimproll. I dont really promote them but I know they are big and have a good reputation. Datinggold for dating and webcams I would say is pretty big. I trust them. Just to name a few big ones.

03-13-2013, 01:18 AM	#17
Far-L Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Seattle Posts: 6,075	Homegrown Video, trusted amateur since 1982 Not only can I name companies that I trust but I can say very specifically why I trust them and why they deserve your trust as well. When we were in the Acacia law suit, all the companies that participated in the Defense Group, the ones that really fought, not the ones that claimed to donate but did not, the ones that really went the distance... well they all had to show their books and have full disclosure and deal with all sorts of intrusive requests for documentation per deposition. ONLY COMPANIES THAT WERE WILLING TO BE THAT HONEST ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS, their books, their proprietary trade secrets, etc., WERE ABLE TO EVEN JOIN THE GROUP. Only companies that are honest to such a degree as that are ones that I would trust, like ATK and Gamelink to name a couple as memory serves. __________________ HomegrownCash.com, the affiliate program of Homegrown Video - The Largest Collection of Amateur XXX - Est. 1982. Contact - Email: farrell AT homegrownvideo D com Skype: hgfarl Newsweek Magazine - "Homegrown Video, the longest running series in the history of porn."

03-13-2013, 04:49 AM	#18
DWB Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Encrypted. Access denied. Posts: 31,779	I trust very few companies, especially large ones. Not going to make a list or anything, but this business is just too shady and full of shit bags to have any real trust. That goes for billing companies, pay sites, and so on. I've always looked at the porn business as a high risk business and expect some degree of loss, so if it happens I'm not really surprised. Big does not mean trustworthy. Neither does small. But usually the big ones either are shady or end up shady. Cheesy and obviously BS board reps don't help their case either, saying dumb things like, "we're converting like it's 1999." Instantly lands them on the shady list. Sometimes trying too hard and being too fake about it makes you look like you're up to no good.

03-13-2013, 08:28 AM	#19
Dirty D Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Paying Webmasters Millions Since 1999 Posts: 4,044	Not the biggest, but we have been here for Webmasters for over 13 years. Trust means that your check shows up on time and never bounces. __________________ Dirty D - ICQ #1326843 - $1 Million Dollars of Bonus Money - 8,000+ FHG! Glory Hole Girlz - Crack Whore Confessions - Tampa Bukkake - Slut Wife Training - Fuck a Fan Electricity Play - Porn Video Drive - Theater Sluts - Skunk Riley - Ukraine Amateurs - Strapon Sessions

03-13-2013, 08:58 AM	#21
Ross Ik ben een aap Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Traffic Force Towers, Canada! Posts: 18,874	You can always trust PIMPROLL.

03-13-2013, 09:22 AM	#22
PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	regarding over saturation we still have a number of niches that aren't blanketed everywhere that have converted exceedingly well over the years. Feel free to hit me up to go over what may or may not work for you. I was never one for smoke and mirrors ;) __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

03-13-2013, 09:30 AM	#24
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,663	Doing some ex-members mailers there is a few I can say I trust no doubt ;) __________________ Wowify AI API Porn.AI Affiliates Porn AI email: [email protected] Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

03-13-2013, 09:33 AM	#25
NaughtyRob Two fresh affiliate progs Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Inside teen pussy Posts: 29,602	We are not one of the biggest, but then again I don't know makes a program big. We have been around since 2000 and still going strong. We are solid, you can trust us. __________________ [email protected] Skype: 17026955414 Vacares Web Hosting - Protect Your Ass with Included Daily Backups

03-13-2013, 10:09 AM	#26
purescotty Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 380	"Big" can mean many things, but I would say 12 years later and growing, we are healthy. We like to pride ourselves on being real people, not shady salesmen, I refuse to pretend to be 'that guy' and throw around jargon. I have seen emails from other programs with pitches so bad they come off as spam. Our company was founded by an Affiliate and true lover of porn, no investment bullshit here. We are almost always available to talk shop, discuss concerns, etc.. and anything else for that matter. (I'm a huge film fan so i'm always open to those discussions as well.)

03-13-2013, 10:13 AM	#27
CyberHustler So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 25,214	No trust, just calculated risks.

03-13-2013, 10:18 AM	#28
Rebel D Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 3,916	Pornpros, Bangbros and Pimproll i personally trust only because i know the people behind them.

03-13-2013, 10:28 AM	#29
MaDalton I am Amazing Content! Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 39,825	there are also european companies like cashdorado.com or partnercash.com that are in the biz for more than 10+ years and that we work with almost since our start 10 years ago they have paid us a lot and never missed one single payment __________________ AmazingContent.com - providing only the best content and service since 2003 Monetize your content on Veegaz.com - one of Germanies largest VOD sites Got German traffic? We convert it into money for you! Skype: madalton02826 - Email: oltecconsult [at] gmail [dot] com

03-13-2013, 10:36 AM	#32
LeRoy Porn Pusher Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: It's a dry heat Posts: 13,334	Use your best judgement... and keep your guard up If you're converting a program and they're paying you. I'd ride that till the cows come home. Personally.. if I knew my siggy was cheating affs. I wouldnt put my real name on it nor make friends with affiliates That's just me __________________ JAPANESE CAMS AND CONTENT SITES Skype - leroy.rowland2

03-29-2013, 02:57 AM	#34
Affil4you Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 132	Good question here guys ! __________________ AFFIL4YOU.COM "We Don't Just Think Mobile, We Know Mobile!" [email protected] Last edited by Affil4you; 03-29-2013 at 03:01 AM..

03-29-2013, 02:59 AM	#35
Affil4you Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 132	Not to full ourself but we are pretty good as a MOBILE affiliate program. if "Big" means "quality" and "knowledge", we 're in the business for 10 years now and so far the clients are satisfied with their cash earned ;) www.affil4you.com If you have adult mobile traffic, you want to talk to us ! Have a good business ! And maybe see u in Phoenix __________________ AFFIL4YOU.COM "We Don't Just Think Mobile, We Know Mobile!" [email protected] Last edited by Affil4you; 03-29-2013 at 03:01 AM..

03-29-2013, 03:02 AM	#36
CurrentlySober Too lazy to wipe my ass Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: A Public Bathroom Posts: 38,490	I trust pimproll - Even when a small payment they send me doesn't get cashed (Cause I lose the check) they add it onto my next check automatically... __________________ My AI Handywork... My Dream Gal... XXX 👁️ 👍️ 💩

03-29-2013, 04:37 AM	#37
Relentless www.EngineFood.com Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 5,698	There are several trustworthy large companies in adult. The first thing I look at is how they treat consumers. If they are 'screwing the surfer' they are just as likely to screw you next. If they treat their customers well, and you bring them customers, they will treat you well. As for big companies I'd trust, Pimproll, Gamma, Homegrown, PinkVisual, Payserve, Streamate and some others immediately come to mind. Two things you should always look at are recent site reviews from reputable websites and websitesecure.org seals. If their sites get good reviews and their sites are treating consumers in an ethical manner.... That's useful information for any affiliate - and most of the major review sites already report which adult sites are websitesecure.org certified right on their own review pages. Contact me any time for more information. Last edited by Relentless; 03-29-2013 at 04:39 AM..

05-28-2013, 09:33 PM	#38
WoW! Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 579	Lol nobody mention Nastydollars haha...Im pretty sure they are the biggest and most trusted program out there. __________________ Shemale Porn Reviews Asian Porn Reviews

05-29-2013, 05:01 AM	#39
Marquis85 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 622	I don't trust any affiliate program - mainstream or adult. (Adult significantly less, obviously.) When money is involved, everyone is looking to fuck you. __________________ Last 3 months SCORECash ratio: 1:237

05-29-2013, 07:40 AM	#40
MPGdevil Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,210	Size doesn't matter. Honesty and profit does.