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helterskelter808 · 03-23-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

It's a well know fact that guns kill people ... then, what do you know, Norway and Switzerland, which are the most heavily armed countries in Europe also have the lowest murder rate, go figure

Switzerland, beloved poster child of gunloons everywhere, has the highest gun homicide rate in Europe. Go figure.

purecane · 03-23-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

You cannot compare firearms to automobiles. Automobiles are created and used for transportation, while firearms are used to kill people.

You can live without firearms. You cannot live without automobiles. You do not need a rifle to hunt; You can hunt using a bow and arrow. But without automobiles food would not be available at your local grocery story.

Every day every American uses or eats something transported on a car or truck, while some Americans will go their entire lives without ever having to touch a firearm. My wife drives every day of her life, but has never touched a firearm.

You can't compare firearm deaths to automobile deaths. Firearm deaths are usually intentional, while automobile deaths are always accidents.

really?????? i'm pretty sure humans existed on this planet for a few thousand years without cars, trains, ships or airplanes.

slapass · 03-23-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

It's a well know fact that guns kill people ... then, what do you know, Norway and Switzerland, which are the most heavily armed countries in Europe also have the lowest murder rate, go figure

Because in Switzerland you allowed to keep the gun but they don't issue you ammo. In time of war you are expected to go the local armory and pick up bullets so that you can then shoot people.

So not really the same as being the most heavily armed country but it does explain why the citizens don't shoot each other.

Antonio · 03-23-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Switzerland, beloved poster child of gunloons everywhere, has the highest gun homicide rate in Europe. Go figure.

You mean just about the lowest, right?

Belarus 4.9 473 Europe Eastern Europe
Bulgaria 2.0 147 Europe Eastern Europe
Czech Republic 1.7 181 Europe Eastern Europe
Georgia 4.3 187 Europe Eastern Europe
Hungary 1.3 133 Europe Eastern Europe
Poland 1.1 436 Europe Eastern Europe
Moldova 7.5 267 Europe Eastern Europe
Romania 2.0 421 Europe Eastern Europe
Russia 10.2 14,574 Europe Eastern Europe
Slovakia 1.5 84 Europe Eastern Europe
Ukraine 5.2 2,356 Europe Eastern Europe
Denmark 0.9 47 Europe Northern Europe
Estonia 5.2 70 Europe Northern Europe
Finland 2.2 118 Europe Northern Europe
Greenland 19.2 11 Europe Northern Europe
Iceland 0.3 1 Europe Northern Europe
Ireland 1.2 54 Europe Northern Europe
Latvia 3.1 70 Europe Northern Europe
Lithuania 6.6 219 Europe Northern Europe
Norway 0.6 29 Europe Northern Europe
Sweden 1.0 91 Europe Northern Europe
United Kingdom 1.2 722 Europe Northern Europe
Albania 4.0 127 Europe Southern Europe
Andorra 1.3 1 Europe Southern Europe
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.5 56 Europe Southern Europe
Croatia 1.4 62 Europe Southern Europe
Greece 1.5 176 Europe Southern Europe
Italy 0.9 529 Europe Southern Europe
Malta 1.0 4 Europe Southern Europe
Montenegro 3.5 22 Europe Southern Europe
Portugal 1.2 124 Europe Southern Europe
Serbia 1.2 123 Europe Southern Europe
Slovenia 0.7 15 Europe Southern Europe
Spain 0.8 390 Europe Southern Europe
Macedonia 1.9 40 Europe Southern Europe
Austria 0.6 56 Europe Western Europe
Belgium 1.7 180 Europe Western Europe
France 1.1 682 Europe Western Europe
Germany 0.8 690 Europe Western Europe
Liechtenstein 2.8 1 Europe Western Europe
Luxembourg 2.5 12 Europe Western Europe
Monaco 0.0 0 Europe Western Europe
Netherlands 1.1 179 Europe Western Europe
Switzerland 0.7 52 Europe Western Europe

helterskelter808 · 03-23-2013, 02:37 PM

^ No, I meant the highest. That's why I used the word "highest" and not the word "lowest". Because they have the highest gun homicide rate in Europe.

harvey · 03-23-2013, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by helterskelter808

^ No, I meant the highest. That's why I used the word "highest" and not the word "lowest". Because they have the highest gun homicide rate in Europe.

SplatterMaster · 03-23-2013, 03:28 PM

**wonders how many have been killed since Lincoln was assassinated**

**wonders who really gives a fuck**

Rochard · 03-23-2013, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

according to the CDC, in 2010 19,392 Suicides by firearm
Now do a little math
19,000 x 32 years = 608,000

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm

CDC says in 2010 11,078 homicide by firearm, 16,259 total homicides
do a little math
11,000 x 32 years = 352,000

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

So about 2/3's of the firearm killings is self inflicted

Brett, you have finally seen the light. You are 100% right. If those people didn't have firearms, they would be alive right now.

Vendzilla · 03-23-2013, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Brett, you have finally seen the light. You are 100% right. If those people didn't have firearms, they would be alive right now.

Suicide rate state they would have found another way and debunk what the OP was implying, there is a difference between killing and Suicide. 2/3rds of the gun violence that people are complaining about are self inflicted, so there fore not violent at all. Only a 1/3.

biggest country in the world where suicide is accepted, Japan, guns are very hard to get

SuckOnThis · 03-23-2013, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

It's a well know fact that guns kill people ... then, what do you know, Norway and Switzerland, which are the most heavily armed countries in Europe also have the lowest murder rate, go figure

Get caught with a handgun on you or inside your car in Switzerland and see how well that works out.

2012 · 03-25-2013, 11:02 AM

Dirty F · 03-25-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by harvey

And that's why i have that imbecile on ignore

Unbelievable.

Rochard · 03-25-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by purecane73

really?????? i'm pretty sure humans existed on this planet for a few thousand years without cars, trains, ships or airplanes.

Why do some people shove their heads in the sand and act like total idiots?

Two hundred years ago, even here in the United States, we were hunters. We didn't shoot because it was "fun"; We hunted, killed animals, skinned them, and then preserved them and ate them later on. But even then transportation played a huge part in what people ate. Different foods has always been imported.

bl4h · 03-25-2013, 11:25 AM

thats it? not bad considering theres 305 million americans and just about as many guns. btw whos that guy

Rochard · 03-25-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Suicide rate state they would have found another way and debunk what the OP was implying, there is a difference between killing and Suicide. 2/3rds of the gun violence that people are complaining about are self inflicted, so there fore not violent at all. Only a 1/3.

biggest country in the world where suicide is accepted, Japan, guns are very hard to get

People use firearms to commit suicide because it's quick and easy.

Someone who is determined to kill themselves will find a way. People who are less determined and do not have access to firearms do not have a sure fire way of killing themselves. Pills do not always work, and hanging and slitting your wrists can be painful, take too long, and is not an option for most people.

Without access to firearms, a lot more people who wanted to try suicide would still be around.

Scott McD · 03-25-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 2012

One of the few times i would support the use of a gun...

helterskelter808 · 03-25-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

And that's why i have that imbecile on ignore

Unbelievable.

How do you even know what "that" was, if you 'have me on ignore', genius?

This post of yours is even more dipshitted than your interminable dribbling about bitcoins, since you found out about them five seconds ago.

If the quote posted was directed at me, as you seem to think it was, I'd love to know why, since what I wrote was entirely factually accurate. To repeat: Switzerland is frequently cited by gunloons as a gun-loving country that has low gun crime, when in fact it has the highest gun murder rate in Europe.

Vendzilla · 03-25-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

People use firearms to commit suicide because it's quick and easy.

Someone who is determined to kill themselves will find a way. People who are less determined and do not have access to firearms do not have a sure fire way of killing themselves. Pills do not always work, and hanging and slitting your wrists can be painful, take too long, and is not an option for most people.

Without access to firearms, a lot more people who wanted to try suicide would still be around.

Japan has strict gun laws, yet suicide is a lot higher there, playing on the train tracks is a favorite.

The reason I posted this is because in the OP, it made it look like 1 million people had been murdered, that's not the case.

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helterskelter808 So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,405	^ No, I meant the highest. That's why I used the word "highest" and not the word "lowest". Because they have the highest gun homicide rate in Europe.

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bl4h Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,282	thats it? not bad considering theres 305 million americans and just about as many guns. btw whos that guy