SleazyDream

Aliens have visited this planet.

And I can prove it Sherlock Homes style.
'Eliminate all other factors, and the one which remains must be the truth.'

The first objection i get is distance and nothing can travel faster than light. Bullshit, warp speed is possible - http://www.popsci.com/technology/art...03/warp-factor

as well as instant communication via vast distances with what Einstein refers to as 'spooky action at a distance' ie Quantum entanglement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

so you got any other reasons why aliens havn't already been here to our planet at some time in the last few million years?

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SleazyDream

that fucker is the greatest problem to actual ancient alien research. Everything's fucking built by an alien to him, and everything is based on less than 10,000 years ago. I'm talking go back a couple million years and we've seen contact. Evidence would be hard to find, But I'm betting it exists if we can figure out where to look


notice I used links to sources like Wikipedia and popular science

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Supz

boring...

Dirty F

Where is the debunking part you fucking imbecile? And where is your proof.
Let me guess, this is the start of you turning into a conspiracy nutter. Knowing how incredibly low your iq is this won't come as a surprise to anybody here.

Supz

Hes just trolling as usual. Posts dumb shit waiting for people to replay to him. Its his way of having people to talk to.

Dirty F

Your logic is that of an 8 year old. Unbelievable.

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All I will say is if you believe humans are the most intelligent lifeform in all galaxies then you have one BIG fucking ego.

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Dirty F

I know he trolls a lot but i'm pretty sure he is being serious here.
It for sure is right at his level of "thinking" and understanding things.

Dirty F

Who says that exactly?

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Phoenix

One thing that is hard to explain are ancient gold mines....scientific evidence puts the mines to be about 150,000 years old...and supposedly we werent capable of fuck all back then.

Who knows we may have had several civilizations rise and fall in that time period. Get to the Roman level or something similar. Most structures would erode into rust after 50k years. So it is really hard to know.

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This shit is not easy to understand but it's spooky :D

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Yeah, but the stupidity in people to blow out the idea of aliens in general is fucking retarded as well. But yeah, he's a giant heretic.

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Mutt

I'm sure there is intelligent life somewhere out there, as intelligent or more intelligent than us? Who knows..... nobody knows. One thing we do know is that this planet we're stranded on is less than a head of a pin in the vast cosmos, so there may be super smart beings out there but the odds of them taking interest in us is remote.

There's no proof aliens have visited earth, there's no evidence there are aliens ...... we're a pretty dumb species, just because we really don't know much doesn't mean there aren't fantastic things beyond our grasp of knowledge yet.

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dyna mo

that was a fucking cool article!

also, WE are the aliens on earth

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...&bih=705&ion=1

Jel

why? I'm not saying I dismiss any and all probability of *some* kind of other life form(s), but why is it an ego thing for anyone to believe that humans are the most advanced physical lifeform (after all, 1 lifeform has to be)? So, why would it mean someone has a big ego?

I assume we all know that the mathematical odds on each of the billions upon billions upon billions of occurences, needed to get to the point of where we are today is almost as incomprehensible as imagining the size of the universe.

How it's anything at all to do with having a big ego if you don't believe in lifeforms more advanced than us is beyond me.

ninavain

finally someone "Gets it"
we were made in "his" likeness ( As the bible says) which I think is a hint that Aliens made us genetically enhanced with their DNA mixed with primate..humans did not come through evolution

xholly

pretty sure thats not exactly the point dynamo was making there and ummm the bible... wtf

dyna mo

ftr, my post had nothing to do with evolution. it had to do with the fundamental building blocks of life.

kronic

I disagree. Look at our interest in other "intelligent" life forms. It would be a natural curiosity.

But the way I see it is this...

Other intelligent life forms have visited our planet and seen the lineups in the McDonalds drive thru, the reality TV shows we watch and the American political battles and said to themselves, "Nope, no intelligent life forms here", and went looking elsewhere.

xholly

thats a fair point, I guess most people assume it based on the size of the universe but yeah the evidence just isnt in yet.

even the famous drake equation doesn't really count for much for much and is next to pointless as it is just a guess based on a guess based on more guesses.

not near enough data to make any sensible calculation really. Probably as reasonable to suggest we are number 1 as to say we are nothing at all. idk

dyna mo

we only need a second data point! as soon as life on mars is confirmed, or not...........

xholly

Or perhaps an even better chance when we are able to punch a hole through the ice sheet of Europa and take a peek now that would be cool.

TheSquealer

A really dumb person attempting to troll more dumb people is always amusing.

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SilentKnight

Did you actually read the entire article?

There was no conclusive proof contained in the article that warp speed is possible. It's still merely theoretical experimentation. When pressed on the specifics, Harold White says, "I'm not at liberty to discuss that." Which I translate to mean, "I don't actually have the answers, but if I say that...they'll cut off my funding and take away my toys."

dyna mo

that's over my head! where would i learn more about that?

Google Expert

Retard..

xholly

Europa is considered by many scientists to be one of the best bets for life in the solar system as they are almost certain there is a vast liquid water ocean covered by a thin sheet of ice. evidence of internal heating and geological activity caused by the elongated orbit of jupiter which continually stretches and compresses the moon creating a friction and heating within. Also the cracks on the surface of the ice look the same as on earth where liquid water has risen to the surface and then frozen over.



The hope is to find life created around geothermal vents in the ocean much like deep sea life at the bottom of the earths oceans that survives without the need for the sun.

http://www.space.com/18901-nasa-miss...on-europa.html

dyna mo

thx for that Xholly, that article at space you linked was a good read, i had no idea about all of that, wow.


that video is out of this world! wait, that's what it's supposed to be. a space rocket/submarine, impressive.

xholly

youre welcome mate, think it's still a long way off though but definitely something id love to see.

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This thread alone should be enough to prove we aren't the most intelligent lifeform. Does "You have a big fucking ego if you believe humans are the 'only' intelligent lifeform in all galaxies" work for ya?

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TheFootMan5

Of course aliens exist

Where do you think the human species came from?

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Humans are arrogant, ignorant species who think the entire universe was created for them and who laugh at other humans who point out that there's probably millions of life forms out there

Stupidity knows no bounds

SuckOnThis

So this is the offspring of a species so intelligent that it has mastered intergalactic travel?

SuckOnThis

It is a mathematical certainty that there is alien life, doesnt mean they have visited us. There is nothing unique about our planet that they would travel the distances to come here when there are probably billions of other earth like planets along the way.

dyna mo

unless we break the speed of light, according to some scientists, we will never be able to communicate to/from other galaxies, everything is moving away from everything too fast, as i understand it.

Dirty F

My god, you've become totally insane...
From just another white trash loser to a completely fucking insane conspiracy looney, basically overnight...

Dirty F

It's uber imbecile Johnnyclips. Just put him on ignore.

SuckOnThis

Yes I see that now.

2MuchMark

Hi Slzeazy,

This is weak. This is "proof", without proof. And don't forget, Shelock was a fictional character.

Scientists look for proof, not lack of proof.


No, it's not possible, yet. The article says they are on the VERGE of faster than light travel. And even then they have to build it, and even then it still takes alot of exotic technology and a shitload of energy.

And even if it has been possible for a long time, planet earth is only 1 of billions of other worlds which may or may not be habitable by other aliens. And even if it was, planet earth has been unremarkable and unnoticed except for the last 103 years. Why 103? Because Jan 13 1910 was when the first radio broadcast was made.

No, this COULD be used for communication, but we only recently discovered how to do it. It's expensive and not practical yet, and if Aliens were using it to try to communicate with us, we were definitely not tuned in.

And besides if aliens were going to try to communicate, they would have noticed that we use radio and light. Proxima Centauri is a star only 4.24 light years away and may have habitable worlds with intelligent life. If they could, and if they wanted to, and if they knew we were here, they could have started sending us messages that we would have received a long time ago. Alpha Century is also only 4.37 light years away, and another contender would be Banard's start at about 6 light years away - each with dozens of potential worlds.

I see what you are trying to say and trust me I love science and science fiction as much as anyone, but proof is required. You've removed a few obstacles for sure, but that's all.

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dyna mo

this thread is trending, but it is an obscure topic, so i am setting the over/under at 4 pages.

Dirty F

You seriously think Sleazy understands any of that

SilentKnight

I recall hearing years ago that the televised transmission of the 1936 Berlin Olympics was the first broadcast powerful enough to escape Earth's atmosphere and go out into space.

I think they used that idea in the movie Contact.

dyna mo

the universe is 14 billion years old.

the earth is 4.5 billion years old

it took 3.5 billion years for intelligent life to develop here on earth, and that's with the development starting relatively early in the lifespan of the earth.

based on these #s, i wonder if it's possible another lifeform evolved fast enough to have developed the technology to have visited here, even any time in the recent past, let alone millions of years ago.

Jel

lol, if you think this thread 'proves' we aren't the most intelligent lifeform, it's you who has the ego problem

The new and unimproved statement doesn't work for me either as far as wtf someone's ego has to do with it if they don't believe there are intelligent lifeforms elsewhere. In fact, to get a little bit deeper into it, that statement is egotistical in itself, with you thinking you are 'better' than someone else, because their ego isn't as 'well adjusted' or as 'correct' as yours, otherwise you wouldn't say it - someone's belief on whether or not there is other intelligent life has zero to do with ego and is purely and solely a belief, because their belief isn't based on a less than/more than principle.

For the record, I don't disbelieve there are other lifeforms, intelligent or otherwise, elsewhere, but I don't dismiss those others' beliefs to the contrary based on a soundbite I heard or read by an egotistical idiot (yes, there's my ego) and thought sounded so cool that I went around repeating it to unsuccessfully prove my own lack of ego

nico-t

please do not think about things like this sleazy. People like you with pea brains should stick to worrying about how to tie your shoes

Tjeezers

I think we are the aliens here.

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jigg

gotta love us people - if we can't do it the aliens can't do it. Therefore we have it all figured out

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