Diana Duke Speaks (Writes)!

[ReggieDurango]

*Diane* that is... wouldn't want to leave a typo uncorrected on GFY!!!

This is the law for which AHF is pushing. It basically mirrors LA's Measure B, but would be statewide for all of California.

Mr. South, I'm guessing some of her references are pointed at you.

Here's the Press Release:

AB 332: Discretion is the Better Part of Valor

FSC CEO Diane Duke writes:

It was Wednesday, the day after AB 332 was to be heard in the Assembly Arts & Entertainment (A&E) Committee. The bill had been pulled from the agenda by its sponsor, Assembly Member Hall, because it did not have the votes to make it out of Committee. This is an unprecedented move and is frowned upon by members of the Legislature. Essentially, this would be comparable to tipping over the board in a chess game if one were losing—bad form, bad etiquette.



The bill was assigned to both the Arts and Entertainment and the Labor committee by the Speaker of the Assembly, John Perez with the intention it would have to pass out of both committees to get a vote on the floor. As of this moment, it has not been scheduled for a hearing in either committee but, the way Sacramento works, that could change at any moment.



The fact that the bill did not have the votes to make it out of committee did not happen by accident. We have been working tirelessly lobbying A&E committee members and by having our folks in Sacramento and our mainstream alliances speak with committee members as well. I can honestly say that the lack of votes for the bill in Arts and Entertainment was directly related to those efforts.



We have not advertised our outreach, or tweeted or blogged about it, because we do not want AHF to know our strategy. FSC’s annual budget is approximately half a million while AHF’s is 200 million. In this David and Goliath scenario, we have to work smarter not bigger. FSC could put out countless press releases describing the work we do in Sacramento, but then AHF would use its considerable financial resources to bully those with whom we work and with whom we are speaking. We know that it is their pattern as they have harassed, picketed and filed lawsuit after lawsuit against anyone and everyone they see as a barrier to their anti-porn crusade.



Furthermore, AHF has publicly stated that it gets much of its information from the adult blogs. Those individuals who choose to promote themselves as “experts” on various subjects by pointing out theoretical vulnerabilities within the industry, or by putting companies, individuals or organizations down, are clearly focused on their own well-being and NOT that of the adult entertainment community. FSC has one horse in this race, the well-being of the adult entertainment community, its performers, producers, directors and production support professionals.



FSC could use its limited resources for self-promotion but we know that is not what our members expect. Instead, we will continue to fight AB 332, Measure B, 2257 and other challenges that come our way. Rest assured that, despite the spin of various self-promoting bloggers, FSC is representing your interests in Sacramento, DC and wherever necessary as we follow our mission: To lead protect and support the growth and development of the adult products and entertainment community.

[Redrob]

Now, I must wonder who in the industry "ratted out" Porno Dan and Immoral Productions to the AHF in the anonymous letter referenced in the Xbiz article.

It appears to me that you'd have to be somebody close to the source to have first hand knowledge of what was happening on set. And, a chicken-shit coward, financial gain or some other obvious reason to hide yourself if you wouldn't identify yourself in the letter would be most likely.

I remember the old days in the industry when if you had a beef with someone, you took it up personally with individual. Now days, sniping and backstabbing seem to be the modus operandi.

Sad, sad indeed.

Link to article referencing the anonymous letter:

AHF Files 1st Complaint Under LA County's Measure B

[mikesouth]

ROTFLMAO

The FSC taking credit for this is like a tick on a dogs ass taking credit for its death when it gets hit by a fucking truck

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

ROTFLMAO

The FSC taking credit for this is like a tick on a dogs ass taking credit for its death when it gets hit by a fucking truck

If not the FSC, Mike, who or what in your opinion SHOULD take credit for it?

P.S. I am not sure I agree with you , but I LOL'd at your dog/truck analogy

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Now, I must wonder who in the industry "ratted out" Porno Dan and Immoral Productions to the AHF in the anonymous letter referenced in the Xbiz article.

It appears to me that you'd have to be somebody close to the source to have first hand knowledge of what was happening on set. And, a chicken-shit coward, financial gain or some other obvious reason to hide yourself if you wouldn't identify yourself in the letter would be most likely.

I remember the old days in the industry when if you had a beef with someone, you took it up personally with individual. Now days, sniping and backstabbing seem to be the modus operandi.

Sad, sad indeed.

Link to article referencing the anonymous letter:

AHF Files 1st Complaint Under LA County's Measure B

nah... just saying that there is a rat to spread fear in the valley IMO

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

ROTFLMAO

The FSC taking credit for this is like a tick on a dogs ass taking credit for its death when it gets hit by a fucking truck

yes very damn funny indeed:

Furthermore, AHF has publicly stated that it gets much of its information from the adult blogs. Those individuals who choose to promote themselves as ?experts? on various subjects by pointing out theoretical vulnerabilities within the industry, or by putting companies, individuals or organizations down, are clearly focused on their own well-being and NOT that of the adult entertainment community

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

yes very damn funny indeed:

Furthermore, AHF has publicly stated that it gets much of its information from the adult blogs. Those individuals who choose to promote themselves as ?experts? on various subjects by pointing out theoretical vulnerabilities within the industry, or by putting companies, individuals or organizations down, are clearly focused on their own well-being and NOT that of the adult entertainment community

I definitely read that as directed squarely at Mike

[mikesouth]

oh ya i expect thats directed at me but what do you expect I have pointed out the stupid shit they do time and time again, they dont like me because I dont toe the party line...BFD I want the industry to win....as long as these morons are heading up the so called fight we dont have a prayer.

We missed our best opportunity long ago...we knew that measure b was coming but instead of sitting down and working with LA County the fsc took a hardline...you cant tell us what to do approach....one that any sane person could see would lose.

ab332 will be another loss because they simply are too dumb to deal with the problem successfully....even a complete idiot can see the strategy here...introduce it in the legislature...if it fails put it on the ballot.

if Diane had any brains at all she would take a lesson from the people who read about it on the blogs....the problem with the fsc is its loaded with people like diane, mark kernes and jeffery douglas who would never take the steps to make it successful because they simply dont know how and refuse to think anyone else could know better. they band together like a cabal to make sure that nobody with any good ideas gets elected to the board.

It has crossed my mind that Manwin could even have engineered the FSC strategy....it certainly plays into their hand and they did buy the FSC after all.


I been in this biz for over 20 years....Diane can try to impugn my good name all she likes but all it will do is backfire on her...

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

oh ya i expect thats directed at me but what do you expect I have pointed out the stupid shit they do time and time again, .

next time just call AHF up directly

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I been in this biz for over 20 years.

really? as what...?

[Redrob]

I spoke to Diane today and I know that the statement was not personally directed at Mike.

Sorry Mike, it just ain't so.

But, "if the shoe fits," feel free to wear it.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Redrob

I spoke to Diane today and I know that the statement was not personally directed at Mike.

Sorry Mike, it just ain't so.

But, "if the shoe fits," feel free to wear it.

Whew; I was going to feel pretty dumb asking what comment was supposedly directed at him. Now I know why I could not figure it out.

[mikesouth]

Originally Posted by Grapesoda

next time just call AHF up directly

I dont have to unfortunately defeating the FSC on these things is like shooting fish in a barrel. Me going ra ra go FSC isnt going to help them in any way nor will it harm ahf.

ahf is like a chess master playing chess with a spider monkey....they are thinking end game diane is throwing shit at the wall

if porners wish to win they had best start playing. I try to help...I told em that AB332 was coming, I told them who would sponsor it, I told them the agency raids were coming, I told them who was behind it and when it would happen its time they throw a saddle on the gift horse instead of looking it in the mouth....

[mikesouth]

oh and that paragraph wasnt just at me I expect its aimed at pornlaw too.

the problem is they just dont want to hear the truth....

[JustDaveXxx]

Nobody Ratted out Porno Dan. Dan has a permit to shoot and is one of the very 1st people to have a health permit.


AHF looks a Dan as an easy Target plain and simple. (Mistake)


Dan is a very public figure in porn and its well know that he shoots live.


But the real funny thing about this situation is that you cannot file an anonymous complaint with the health department. And you cannot file a complaint on behalf of someone else. The actual person who has the complaint has to actually go down and give their personal info and be the ones to complain.


Furthermore the complaint needs to be detailed with acts, times, persons involve, etc.


This complaint wont go anywhere with out the person who has the complaint, files the complaint.


Just Dave

[baddog]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Nobody Ratted out Porno Dan. Dan has a permit to shoot and is one of the very 1st people to have a health permit.


AHF looks a Dan as an easy Target plain and simple. (Mistake)


Dan is a very public figure in porn and its well know that he shoots live.


But the real funny thing about this situation is that you cannot file an anonymous complaint with the health department. And you cannot file a complaint on behalf of someone else. The actual person who has the complaint has to actually go down and give their personal info and be the ones to complain.


Furthermore the complaint needs to be detailed with acts, times, persons involve, etc.


This complaint wont go anywhere with out the person who has the complaint, files the complaint.


Just Dave

All of that makes perfect sense.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

oh and that paragraph wasnt just at me I expect its aimed at pornlaw too.

the problem is they just dont want to hear the truth....

Besides you and pornlaw, I can't think of anyone else these comments even COULD have been directed at...

[tony286]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Nobody Ratted out Porno Dan. Dan has a permit to shoot and is one of the very 1st people to have a health permit.


AHF looks a Dan as an easy Target plain and simple. (Mistake)


Dan is a very public figure in porn and its well know that he shoots live.


But the real funny thing about this situation is that you cannot file an anonymous complaint with the health department. And you cannot file a complaint on behalf of someone else. The actual person who has the complaint has to actually go down and give their personal info and be the ones to complain.


Furthermore the complaint needs to be detailed with acts, times, persons involve, etc.


This complaint wont go anywhere with out the person who has the complaint, files the complaint.


Just Dave

Also didnt they bust his balls in May? So he is in their gunsights the poor guy

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

I dont have to unfortunately defeating the FSC on these things is like shooting fish in a barrel. Me going ra ra go FSC isnt going to help them in any way nor will it harm ahf.

ahf is like a chess master playing chess with a spider monkey....they are thinking end game diane is throwing shit at the wall

if porners wish to win they had best start playing. I try to help...I told em that AB332 was coming, I told them who would sponsor it, I told them the agency raids were coming, I told them who was behind it and when it would happen its time they throw a saddle on the gift horse instead of looking it in the mouth....

thanks I feel so much better now ...

[mikesouth]

Yer welcome grapesoda...it aint everyday I can bring a complete idiot into the light so when I do I figure its a good thing.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by Redrob

I spoke to Diane today and I know that the statement was not personally directed at Mike.

Sorry Mike, it just ain't so.

But, "if the shoe fits," feel free to wear it.

YEAH RIGHT! If that's true, then who WAS it directed at???

[Redrob]

Mike warning the Industry about AHF considering their sponsorship of the LA City and LA County referendums is like warning us the sun is going to rise tomorrow; then, taking credit for his astute prognostication.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Mike warning the Industry about AHF considering their sponsorship of the LA City and LA County referendums is like warning us the sun is going to rise tomorrow; then, taking credit for his astute prognostication.

Man, did you miss my question right above your post, posed to you?

[ZeroHero]

when i read a topic like "Diana Duke Speaks.." i expect to see some boobs damn , please save the thread

[myjah]

Mike, it is clear you don't like the FSC strategies but I wonder how much could be accomplished for the causes you say they mishandle - Measure B, AB 332 - if you spent your energy garnering support for those instead of wasting the same energy stirring up negativity about Diane, Manwin and the FSC.

[Qbert]

Originally Posted by myjah

Mike, it is clear you don't like the FSC strategies but I wonder how much could be accomplished for the causes you say they mishandle - Measure B, AB 332 - if you spent your energy garnering support for those instead of wasting the same energy stirring up negativity about Diane, Manwin and the FSC.

FSC needs to get involved with issues BEFORE there are measures to defeat. Until they become proactive instead of reactive they'll continue to be completely ineffective. But we all know that will never happen.

[baddog]

Originally Posted by Qbert

FSC needs to get involved with issues BEFORE there are measures to defeat. Until they become proactive instead of reactive they'll continue to be completely ineffective. But we all know that will never happen.

Funding.

[mikesouth]

Originally Posted by myjah

Mike, it is clear you don't like the FSC strategies but I wonder how much could be accomplished for the causes you say they mishandle - Measure B, AB 332 - if you spent your energy garnering support for those instead of wasting the same energy stirring up negativity about Diane, Manwin and the FSC.

I am neither a myrmidon nor a complete fool. Mt cheering a money trying to do calculus isnt going to help him be successful at it. What Id like to do is move the industry to see the problem and fix it. We have intelligent people in this biz who could do a far better job.

[mikesouth]

Originally Posted by Qbert

FSC needs to get involved with issues BEFORE there are measures to defeat. Until they become proactive instead of reactive they'll continue to be completely ineffective. But we all know that will never happen.

Exactly. and you are correct...it will never happen.

[ReggieDurango]

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Mt cheering a money trying to do calculus isnt going to help him be successful at it.

[mikesouth]

I really should proof read my replies lol MY cheering a MONKEY LOL

[ReggieDurango]

thread bump

[DWB]

Originally Posted by baddog

Funding.

I don't doubt that, but then you have to ask what's the point?

If they don't have the funding to do what they need to do, they may as well close up shop and go work IFOR or some other useless group. Otherwise, they will continue to fail one issue after another for simply being too late to the game because of a proper lack of funding.

To be honest, if they can't get the money they need from all of their big money members, then that should be a clear signal that they are not wanted or as important as they think they are. But which of the big companies will be the first to publicly withdraw their support from the FSC? None. It's easier to go with the flow and get your tax write-off instead of looking like an asshole.

Logic says if they were as important and efficient as everyone makes them out to be, then funding shouldn't be an issue. Why don't all the big boys step up and fund them properly? I don't know if they are still needed or not to be honest, it just seems odd with all the support they have from the largest companies in the industry that they always fall short on funding. Something somewhere doesn't add up.