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DWB · 04-29-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

True but people who believe conspiracy theories, especially the shit from Alex Jones, just can't be rational. You can give them absolute scientific proof and they still won't believe it. What they want to believe seems to deep that it is beyond reason.

Some examples:

- 9/11 "Truthers" think all kinds of stupid things were involved such as remote controlled airplanes and demolition explosives.

- Obama "Birthers" like Donald Trump STILL don't believe Potus was born in the US, despite seeing his birth certificate.

- "Looners" or "Lunars" or whatever the fuck they are called think the moon landings were faked.

People like these collect all kinds of garbage faux-truths into their heads and cannot for the life of them consider for 1 second that they could be wrong. It's beyond sad - Nutjobs like these eventually make it to the radio (Alex Jones) and TV (Glenn Beck) and can even influence politics making a bad situation much much worse.

As I've said before, there are crazy people and there are those who seek the truth (more info) and/or don't always buy into the "official" story. There is a huge difference between these two types of people.

Having said that, I really don't understand how people who sell porn for a living can demonize any of these people, crazy or not. Everyone is just trying to make a living even if you don't agree with them. Jones and Beck should not be able to influence politics any more than Jon Stewart can. The fact that they can at all really says something about the sad state of the USA.

sarettah · 04-29-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Nutjobs like these eventually make it to the radio (Alex Jones) and TV (Glenn Beck) and can even influence politics making a bad situation much much worse.

You are assuming that Alex Jones and Glenn Beck believe the stuff they spew out. That is an awful big assumption imho.

I think they are con men, entertainers who have found a niche. If this niche hadn't worked out they would have become evangelical ministers or stand up comics or politicians.

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DWB · 04-29-2013, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

Anyone who works for Alex Jones is a dumb ass.

Anyone who believes in God is a dumb ass. Anyone who works for a war mongering government is a dumb ass. Anyone who makes porn is a dumb ass. Anyone who is posting right now instead of spending time with their family is a dumb ass. Anyone who bothers to respond to theking is a dumb ass. And so on and so forth.

I'm being sarcastic of course (for some of those), but Jones has a money making machine and to do that you can't hire dumb asses. The kicker is, in society's eyes, even Jones and Beck are more respectable than most of the people in this business.

theking · 04-29-2013, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

You are assuming that Alex Jones and Glenn Beck believe the stuff they spew out. That is an awful big assumption imho.

I think they are con men, entertainers who have found a niche. If this niche hadn't worked out they would have become evangelical ministers or stand up comics or politicians.

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I concur...even though I sometimes wonder about what they really believe or don't believe.

dyna mo · 04-29-2013, 07:43 PM

people all over the world believe jones, it's not exclusively american so if it's a sad commentary on america for americans believing him, it's a sad commentary on the world as well.

but i don't think that explains it. one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is the internet and the ease it spreads information, right and wrong. the world is a much smaller place now due to the internet, there's a lot of info to digest, people don't delve into every topic and sort it out.

not saying that's right or wrong, but there is some human nature happening here.

CyberHustler · 04-29-2013, 07:53 PM

That lil bastard sounded like Frank types towards ct's...

Fetish Gimp · 04-29-2013, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

I'm being sarcastic of course (for some of those), but Jones has a money making machine and to do that you can't hire dumb asses.

True. Most con men aren't dumb, in fact you have to be pretty slick to be able to troll at that high level.

This is why going apeshit on them is the wrong approach, because organizations like that are borderline cults, and nothing, NOTHING brings cult members together better than an outside force attacking them head-on. It's the tribal instinct kicking in.

Which is why politeness and specially humour work much better. When you laugh at someone's arguments, when it's obvious you're not taking them seriously and you make it clear that they're making you laugh, you take away their power.

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Originally Posted by DWB

The kicker is, in society's eyes, even Jones and Beck are more respectable than most of the people in this business.

Depressingly true

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

not saying that's right or wrong, but there is some human nature happening here.

Sure there is. The human brain is a pattern-seeking machine. But just because you "see" a pattern does not mean it exists.

There has been psychological studies on conspiracy theories which boil down to this:
When things are really fucked up in your life, when you feel you have no control over events, your brain tries to give events meaning, context by making connections.

Thinking "the Jews/government did 9/11 - Boston bombings" gives that horrific event an "acceptable" explanation. "It was part of a plan by hidden forces, not a random event" and that's in a way reassuring because then you get a handle on what happened and can then "fight" these hidden forces thus regaining control.

It's the same way religion works. Good shit happens in your life? "God is so generous because I'm good". Bad shit happens in your life? "It's part of God's Plan to test me".

GrantMercury · 04-29-2013, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis

The dude who made this is a friend of mine!

Rochard · 04-29-2013, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DWB

You just also described the government and mainstream media.

If you presented both arguments to an alien who had no bias or previous knowledge of the incident, the "proof" provided to the people probably would not be a slam dunk. It was a single frame of one brother walking away where it looked like he *might* not have on a backpack. Everything else has been 100% hearsay. Photos of a burn mark on a street after the fact is not proof of anything, especially to the outsider with no bias or previous knowledge of the incident.

That doesn't mean I don't think they did it, but what you are saying is exactly what has happened through the media and government, and many believe this to be the truth for no other reason than they believe once source better than the other, even though that source has lied to everyone in the past, they still give it more credibility and place their trust there. I'm sure there is a physiological name for this, as the the psychology of belief is truly bizarre and fascinating.

Truth be told I haven't really given much thought to the Boston Bomber or what proof the government has given us. I've seen the same pictures everyone else has seen, but outside of that I really don't have any proof outside of what the US government has told us.

I know that the US government lies to us, yet in this case I have no reason to doubt them. There are times when the government will lie to us (JFK, Cambodia) but in this case I don't see how the FBI could be involved. Or why.

For the most part I believe the press too. If any of the major news outlets thought there was any doubt to the story, they would start poking serious holes in it. And quickly too. It's like GFY here - You CANNOT lie here because you will be called out.

SuckOnThis · 04-29-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

You are assuming that Alex Jones and Glenn Beck believe the stuff they spew out. That is an awful big assumption imho.

I think they are con men, entertainers who have found a niche. If this niche hadn't worked out they would have become evangelical ministers or stand up comics or politicians.

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Agreed, and I would add Hannity and Limbaugh onto that list.

SuckOnThis · 04-29-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantMercury

The dude who made this is a friend of mine!

You just opened up a whole can of worms.

GrantMercury · 04-29-2013, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

You are assuming that Alex Jones and Glenn Beck believe the stuff they spew out. That is an awful big assumption imho.

I think they are con men, entertainers who have found a niche. If this niche hadn't worked out they would have become evangelical ministers or stand up comics or politicians.

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Exactly right. Glenn Beck wanted to be Howard Stern. When that didn't work he tried something else. They don't really care. They're narcissists who want attention and to make tons of money. How doesn't really matter.

Major (Tom) · 04-29-2013, 09:27 PM

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He used around 7 different unusual insults. Nudnick? Shit heel? Ass Hat? Mumble Mouth? LULZ

No way your half baked ass could rip somebody apart on the spot like that

I was sold when he said "piss flaps" or something like that. The guy is witty for sure. He did get a tad redundant but still he tore that guy to shreds.
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Pornopat · 04-29-2013, 09:52 PM

So I am the only one who thinks he sounds like that guy from the BangBus?

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 64,162	people all over the world believe jones, it's not exclusively american so if it's a sad commentary on america for americans believing him, it's a sad commentary on the world as well. but i don't think that explains it. one thing that hasn't been mentioned here is the internet and the ease it spreads information, right and wrong. the world is a much smaller place now due to the internet, there's a lot of info to digest, people don't delve into every topic and sort it out. not saying that's right or wrong, but there is some human nature happening here.

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