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Old 05-01-2013, 02:32 PM   #51
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Obviously it's tragic.

The remaining child needs to be taken from the parents and they should be prosecuted.
I 100% agree and I like you believe in the right to own weapons.
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Obviously it's tragic.

The remaining child needs to be taken from the parents and they should be prosecuted.
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Frank, have a problem with women that can defend themselves? Or just white people?
I have a problem with backwards trailer trash inbreed scum like you. You disgust me.
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The real problem are trigger happy pigs like Vendzilla who teaches people around him to shoot people if someone looks funny at you.
Trailer trash like him can't wait for a reason to shoot someone.
It's those kind of gun freaks who are exactly the kind of people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

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The real problem are trigger happy pigs like Vendzilla who teaches people around to shoot people if someone looks funny at you.
Trailer trash like him can't wait for a reason to shoot someone.
It's those kind of gun freaks who are exactly the kind of people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.
I look at Brett funny all the time and he's never shot me...
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I 100% agree and I like you believe in the right to own weapons.
Why? Why is it so fucking important to have that right? In most countries you don't have right and pretty much everybody is fine with it. And on top of that it's way safer.

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These fuckers even sell pink guns to target little girls (and gay-leaning boys I assume?



Watch the gun and NRA nuts swarm all over this tragedy and demand that 2 year olds be armed too. Goddam fucking assholes.
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I 100% agree and I like you believe in the right to own weapons.
Really? Kids too? What about criminals and crazy people?

You have to get a background check to drive a car. Are you opposed to background checks to buy a gun?

Just wondering..
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Why? Why is it so fucking important to have that right?
To resist tyrannical Government of course.

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'Merican constitution says we have the right... move the fuck out if you don't like it. Fuck Yeah!
You have the right to own 100 bowling balls. In don't see you people going nuts over that?
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You have the right to own 100 bowling balls. In don't see you people going nuts over that?
Dafuq that gotta do with anything? People do have bowling ball collections tho.
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I think the "Kid's Corner" page on that site is the most disturbing.

http://www.crickett.com/crickett_kid...fs50o s0d0al6

Look at those pics. This is the culture we're condoning?
Would be funny if a hacker added this picture to it, there's exactly 1 spot left in the right corner


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Dafuq that gotta do with anything? People do have bowling ball collections tho.
That having the right to own something doesn't mean you have to have it no matter what. This never seems to be a problem unless we're talking about guns. Then suddenly that right or freedom means you NEED a gun or otherwise your freedom is taken away from you.
Pretty goddamn retarded. Then again the typical gun owner usually is pretty retarded.
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Pull out of middle east and redeem yourself as a superpower by giving the Palestinians a piece of land and there will be no more need for all these stressful alerts and flags that Americans have to live with every single day.


Make a massive network of public transportation across the US such as sky-trains and bullet trains which means less cars , less pollution, less traffic, less stress, less oil dependency (if of course the car manufactures and oil companies let you) and more money in your pocket.


At the same time try to encourage and educate the people to sometimes walk a little of bike a little to work if the bus or train don't take them right to the doorstep of their office. This means less obesity which has become an epidemic in US and less tax dollars spent in treating it.

Give African-Americans a piece of land so everybody can live in peace and quiet. All of a sudden there will much less need for guns. Next thing you can close down the gun factories.

Good things happen when you do good things..........and think.

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`newborn shoots dad straight out of vagina `' .....
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Really? Kids too? What about criminals and crazy people?

You have to get a background check to drive a car. Are you opposed to background checks to buy a gun?

Just wondering..
You are taking things out of context. You do not have to get a background check for a car. Any criminal can drive a car. Crazy people can drive cars too.

Hell, they even let my wife drive.
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My local watering hole, some asshole tried to run over someone he had an argument over.
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My local watering hole, some asshole tried to run over someone he had an argument over.
would he of shot him if he had a gun?
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I understand what you are saying, but when I saw my daughter graduate boot camp, her CC asked me about her training, See I was trained by my stepfather who was a Marine. I taught my daughter more than she would have got from a safety course, I know, I needed one for a hunting license and I needed another for a carry permit. I never needed the California safety course for gun ownership because I was in the Military.

Most is just common sense.

I don't hunt anymore, I just have guns because I enjoy target shooting and the security of having them.
I was thinking about an offer from a friend to go buffalo hunting, not really a sport, but would fill my freezer!
sure most is common sense but the average person doesn't have someone with your training teaching them either. most probably just had dad after a few beers who learned from his dad after a few beers.
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A five year old isn't too young to have a gun, but a 15 year old is too young to have access to the morning after pill. Makes sense to me.
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...You guys gotta realize there are way more people like me than there are people who do bad things....

A few years ago I would have agreed with that 100%. What I've personally seen in the last few years has changed my perception though.

In YOUR circles and MY circles I'd say your statement is a fact. However, there's a metric shit ton of fucking morons out there who own guns and they are anything but "safe & responsible" gun owners. People like the family involved in this horrible situation for instance.

I started shooting around 6 years old and hunting at 12 or 13. Through my entire childhood ALL the guns in the house were kept locked up. Even after I turned 18, my guns were still kept in my dads safe and I didn't have the combination. When I moved out, I got my own locking gun cabinet. To this day, I am the ONLY person who has the combination to my safe. Not even my wife can get into it.

I carry a gun daily and currently shoot an average of 4 days a week. That puts me around other shooters quite a bit. It amazes me how some of these clowns treat their weapons and the people around them. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't find myself correcting somebodies unsafe practices. Then there are the fucktards who grab a truck full of guns, fill their coolers with beer, and take their friends and family shooting. I see this type of tool on a regular basis. As soon as they show up, I leave the area.

I am VERY MUCH pro gun and I believe that those who are truly responsible should have the right to own and carry. But if you're going to stand there muzzling people with your "gat" while chugging a beer and ranting about your Constitutional rights then you can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned.

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If I had a gun, I would have shot him

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sure most is common sense but the average person doesn't have someone with your training teaching them either. most probably just had dad after a few beers who learned from his dad after a few beers.
Define average person? Do you know how many registered hunters there are in the US? Around 15 million according to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Most states require a hunters safety course. Your argument doesn't hold water.
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" the rifle in this case actually belonged to the child, the Lexington Herald-Leader reports. The gun, which he received as a gift last year, was inadvertently left loaded with a single shell in a corner of the family's home."

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A few years ago I would have agreed with that 100%. What I've personally seen in the last few years has changed my perception though.

In YOUR circles and MY circles I'd say your statement is a fact. However, there's a metric shit ton of fucking morons out there who own guns and they are anything but "safe & responsible" gun owners. People like the family involved in this horrible situation for instance.

I started shooting around 6 years old and hunting at 12 or 13. Through my entire childhood ALL the guns in the house were kept locked up. Even after I turned 18, my guns were still kept in my dads safe and I didn't have the combination. When I moved out, I got my own locking gun cabinet. To this day, I am the ONLY person who has the combination to my safe. Not even my wife can get into it.

I carry a gun daily and currently shoot an average of 4 days a week. That puts me around other shooters quite a bit. It amazes me how some of these clowns treat their weapons and the people around them. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't find myself correcting somebodies unsafe practices. Then there are the fucktards who grab a truck full of guns, fill their coolers with beer, and take their friends and family shooting. I see this type of tool on a regular basis. As soon as they show up, I leave the area.

I am VERY MUCH pro gun and I believe that those who are truly responsible should have the right to own and carry. But if you're going to stand there muzzling people with your "gat" while chugging a beer and ranting about your Constitutional rights then you can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned.
The thing is EVERY gun owner says the same thing. EVERY gun owner will claim that he is a responsible gun owner and that the morons shouldn't have guns. Just like every car driver thinks he drives better than other people.
So basically this makes it a worthless argument.
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Guns don't kill people.

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If don't try to find the root of the problems things are just gonna escalate. I don't know why there aren't any intellectuals sitting and discussing these issues on open TV. I guess b/c ratings are gonna go down. People would rather watch Ricky Lake show.
I haven't had a TV for the past 15 years.
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The 2nd Amendment:
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

".well regulated.." please don't misinterpret this very clear provision. A "my first rifle", loaded and leaning against a wall while no parents are home? Not even fucking close, bro's.
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A few years ago I would have agreed with that 100%. What I've personally seen in the last few years has changed my perception though.

In YOUR circles and MY circles I'd say your statement is a fact. However, there's a metric shit ton of fucking morons out there who own guns and they are anything but "safe & responsible" gun owners. People like the family involved in this horrible situation for instance.

I started shooting around 6 years old and hunting at 12 or 13. Through my entire childhood ALL the guns in the house were kept locked up. Even after I turned 18, my guns were still kept in my dads safe and I didn't have the combination. When I moved out, I got my own locking gun cabinet. To this day, I am the ONLY person who has the combination to my safe. Not even my wife can get into it.

I carry a gun daily and currently shoot an average of 4 days a week. That puts me around other shooters quite a bit. It amazes me how some of these clowns treat their weapons and the people around them. There isn't a day that goes by where I don't find myself correcting somebodies unsafe practices. Then there are the fucktards who grab a truck full of guns, fill their coolers with beer, and take their friends and family shooting. I see this type of tool on a regular basis. As soon as they show up, I leave the area.

I am VERY MUCH pro gun and I believe that those who are truly responsible should have the right to own and carry. But if you're going to stand there muzzling people with your "gat" while chugging a beer and ranting about your Constitutional rights then you can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned.
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All these talks about amendments remind of what Lincoln once said. "DO NOT TOUCH THE CONSTITUTION". We'll I think that's wrong. The constitution must be amended continuously as we evolve to reflect the new times. Don't put too much emphasis on amendments as on reason.
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If don't try to find the root of the problems things are just gonna escalate. I don't know why there aren't any intellectuals sitting and discussing these issues on open TV. I guess b/c ratings are gonna go down. People would rather watch Ricky Lake show.
I haven't had a TV for the past 15 years.
Ricky lake...isn't that like 15 years old?
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The 2nd Amendment:
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".well regulated.." please don't misinterpret this very clear provision. A "my first rifle", loaded and leaning against a wall while no parents are home? Not even fucking close, bro's.
You are correct, in that it refers to well trained people, and that it also refers to men, aged 18 and older, who can, in times of emergency, act as a militia.

If you take a look at the federalist papers, and read the majority opinion in "Heller Vrs. Washington DC" you will see the references.



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Old 05-02-2013, 12:26 PM   #88
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All these talks about amendments remind of what Lincoln once said. "DO NOT TOUCH THE CONSTITUTION". We'll I think that's wrong. The constitution must be amended continuously as we evolve to reflect the new times. Don't put too much emphasis on amendments as on reason.
that will all be fine and dandy until some right-wing christian government gets into power and decides to change the first amendment to read "....except for online porn".





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Every year just over 30,000 people die in the US from gunshot wounds. Every two years more US citizens are killed by gunshot wounds than were lost in the entire Vietnam war.

Lets look at this another way. With a population of 310 million and an annual death rate of 8.3/1000 , we can calculate that 2,573,000 people die in the US each year.
Of which 30,000 die of Gun Shot - so if you live in the US you have a 1.166% chance that you will die of Gun Shot wound. The rate of gunshot deaths is about 8 times that of economically comparable nations.

bottomline: USA sucks balls badly and yet calls for even MORE arms ... poor brain-washed dummies obey, consume and follow ... sheesh
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You are correct, in that it refers to well trained people, and that it also refers to men, aged 18 and older, who can, in times of emergency, act as a militia.

If you take a look at the federalist papers, and read the majority opinion in "Heller Vrs. Washington DC" you will see the references.



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Lets pretend it means and even says "well trained" though. The first order of business when it comes to training is being able to tell who has passed the training. FAIL. There is no standard test to buy a fire arm. No shooting test, no eye test.. is there any training whatsoever? Then it's fail. There is no regulation until we impose regulations. Another word for that is government. The sale of firearms needs to be governed. Nothing could be more clear.
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Let me repeat it again. It's not normal to give guns to children. You might think so because this word freedom has been repeated to you from the day you were born. But it really isn't. You and your country are fucked.
Its not normal in a small part of western europe, what about the rest of the world were people still fight for freedom ? lots of kids join the fight for freedom with guns in hand.
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Its not normal in a small part of western europe, what about the rest of the world were people still fight for freedom ? lots of kids join the fight for freedom with guns in hand.
name one place where that is happening today? people are fighting for bullshit rebel regimes and corporate interests. no one has been fighting for real freedom for a long time.
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Define average person? Do you know how many registered hunters there are in the US? Around 15 million according to the US Fish and Wildlife Service. Most states require a hunters safety course. Your argument doesn't hold water.
average person doesn't have military training. in states where courses are required i bet there are less incidents of accidental shootings. in states where there is not the 'average joe' just a regular guy who learned to shoot from his father and so on teaches his son the same mistakes he learned from his father and so on. though that only applies if hunting is the end goal of teaching to shoot which is less common these days. its more for self defense or whatever in which case there are no required courses to take.
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The thing is EVERY gun owner says the same thing. EVERY gun owner will claim that he is a responsible gun owner and that the morons shouldn't have guns. Just like every car driver thinks he drives better than other people.
So basically this makes it a worthless argument.
The point you miss is that guns dont kill people. people kill people.
Some rand can kill you with you with a shovel or a bat or what ever, the only thing a gun does is that it makes people equal.
A big 200 pound criminal isnt stronger then a 60 year old guy in the usa, because in usa the 60 year old guy have a shotgun to defend himself, but in Holland a 60 year old guy is prey to a 200 pound criminal, because in holland only the criminals have guns,
the left wing goverment have made sure that legal people cant defend themselves. and have people like you screaming "power to the people" and what they really mean is power to the goverment, and less power to the people
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The point you miss is that guns dont kill people. people kill people.
Some rand can kill you with you with a shovel or a bat or what ever, the only thing a gun does is that it makes people equal.
A big 200 pound criminal isnt stronger then a 60 year old guy in the usa, because in usa the 60 year old guy have a shotgun to defend himself, but in Holland a 60 year old guy is prey to a 200 pound criminal, because in holland only the criminals have guns,
the left wing goverment have made sure that legal people cant defend themselves. and have people like you screaming "power to the people" and what they really mean is power to the goverment, and less power to the people
Blah blah blah blah blaaaaah
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Blah blah blah blah blaaaaah
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name one place where that is happening today? people are fighting for bullshit rebel regimes and corporate interests. no one has been fighting for real freedom for a long time.
there are lots of people in the arab countries fighting for freedom right now, against dictators and muslim fanatics, but ofc if you ask Dirty F they are just dirty swines that shouldnt be able to defend themselves, they should just bend over and take it.
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The gun wasnt the issue. it was the stupid parent for not only leaving it out where the child could get it but to leave it loaded?! Whats wrong with people?
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there are lots of people in the arab countries fighting for freedom right now, against dictators and muslim fanatics, but ofc if you ask Dirty F they are just dirty swines that shouldnt be able to defend themselves, they should just bend over and take it.
yeah, to rail out one guy and replace him with another who is no better or worse. like i said, bullshit rebel regimes who have their own corrupt agenda. thats not freedom. its not working out too well for egypt or any arab country that did this or tried to do it. personal guns do little in these situations anyways.
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