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Dirty F · 05-02-2013, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor

there are lots of people in the arab countries fighting for freedom right now, against dictators and muslim fanatics, but ofc if you ask Dirty F they are just dirty swines that shouldnt be able to defend themselves, they should just bend over and take it.

You're comparing that to the US?

What??

I'm close to putting you on ignore. I stopped wasting time on idiots like you.

Vendzilla · 05-02-2013, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

average person doesn't have military training. in states where courses are required i bet there are less incidents of accidental shootings. in states where there is not the 'average joe' just a regular guy who learned to shoot from his father and so on teaches his son the same mistakes he learned from his father and so on. though that only applies if hunting is the end goal of teaching to shoot which is less common these days. its more for self defense or whatever in which case there are no required courses to take.

Please read my post again, I didn't have to take the Gun Safty course to buy a gun, because I was in the Military. If you don't have a DD214, you have to take the course in California. A lot of states require that.

Hunting is less common, where did you hear that? Yes the numbers are going down, but that can be tied to the economy. It costs a lot to go hunting.
read this
http://www.nwtf.org/images/Youth_Hunting_Report.pdf

AaronM · 05-02-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

The thing is EVERY gun owner says the same thing. EVERY gun owner will claim that he is a responsible gun owner and that the morons shouldn't have guns. Just like every car driver thinks he drives better than other people.
So basically this makes it a worthless argument.

It's not a worthless argument. In fact, it's not an argument at all. I'm just stating the facts as I see them. You're absolutely right, every gun owner will say that they are responsible and you and I know that a lot of them are not.

Even though you and I are on opposite sides of the gun issue, I think many of your personal views on the topic are pretty accurate. I may not always agree with you but the fact that you're at least thinking logically is something I've always respected about you.

The problem is that people debate one extreme or another. The answer for the U.S. is not more guns but it is also not a ban on guns. Gun bans have never worked in this country and all that will do is start bigger problems. Unfortunately, the U.S. has created a problem that has no easy and efective solution.

My personal feelings are that the agendas of both sides are fucked up. Common ground could be found if BOTH sides would quick acting like ignorant jackasses and address the actual problems. That would take years of work and require more regulations on the special interest groups and I don't ever see that happening because our Government is so corrupt.

Dirty F · 05-02-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Unfortunately, the U.S. has created a problem that has no easy and efective solution.

Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

Thor · 05-02-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

You're comparing that to the US?

What??

I'm close to putting you on ignore. I stopped wasting time on idiots like you.

Well, with the frequency that I post there is hardly a point, but your choice ofc

Dirty F · 05-02-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor

Well, with the frequency that I post there is hardly a point, but your choice ofc

Just stop posting bullshit.

Best-In-BC · 05-02-2013, 02:32 PM

Dumb fucking mom

Thor · 05-02-2013, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Just stop posting bullshit.

being pro gun is just my opinion, nothing to do with bullshit, I really do belive that people got the right to defend themselves against everybody that dosnt want them any good, and I do not belive that the police is doing their job good enough, especially in european countries, wich makes me an even stronger beliver in gun rights.

AaronM · 05-02-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Yup, that pretty much sums it up.

Yes it does and that's the main reason I really don't get into the gun debates. Unless you can change the corrupt politicians and get the NRA to pull their head out of their own ass, no significant changed will be made. They may pass more laws but the atrocities being committed with guns will still continue to happen.

Personally, I'm more interested in safety and education than I am in debates. Debating will change nothing but education has proven to change almost every problem mankind has ever encountered. Ignorance = stupidity = danger.

AaronM · 05-02-2013, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor

being pro gun is just my opinion, nothing to do with bullshit, I really do belive that people got the right to defend themselves against everybody that dosnt want them any good, and I do not belive that the police is doing their job good enough, especially in european countries, wich makes me an even stronger beliver in gun rights.

I know fuck all about you. This is the first post of yours I've ever read.

Reading the above, I see an uneducated person. All I have to base this on is your inability to spell even the most common words. When dumb fucks speak out in behalf of pro gun groups, it doesn't do our cause any good.

Just my humble opinion.

GoldBarsXXX · 05-02-2013, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Ricky lake...isn't that like 15 years old?

That's when I sopped watching TV.

GoldBarsXXX · 05-02-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo

that will all be fine and dandy until some right-wing christian government gets into power and decides to change the first amendment to read "....except for online porn"..

That's a very good point. It doesn't have to be some right-wing christian government to ban online porn. It could any government for that matter. If that day comes when there is a long heated debate about whether porn is detrimental to the very fabric of the culture (which is the reason why so many countries filter it now including some European countries)then I am all for banning online porn or at least making it much more restricted.

Its the same with guns. If there is a debate about how to stop so many people from "winging it" with the end result of banning guns then I am for it.

The whole things is a bit complex. Its takes more than amendments to change attitudes.
I wrote earlier about what I would do as I politician. That would be a good start.

GrantMercury · 05-02-2013, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by aaronm

obviously it's tragic.

The remaining child needs to be taken from the parents and they should be prosecuted.

+1

GrantMercury · 05-02-2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837

if the 2 year old had a gun

GrantMercury · 05-02-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton

and it's absurd that you can not have a beer until you are 21 but you can market guns to children: http://www.crickett.com/

Absurd it is. Welcome to the NRA's America.

GrantMercury · 05-02-2013, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 2012

demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners
demonize gun owners

yea !

only the good folks looking out for your best interests at "the government" should have guns

So, you don't see a problem with what happened? The 5 year old should have a gun to protect himself from "the government"?

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