Stanley Kubrick, The Shining and the Moon Landing Hoax

[wehateporn]

It's hard to make sense of The Shining without watching this...

[Dankasaur]

[dyna mo]

well, that certainly proves they faked apollo 11 but what about the other 5 lunar landings? were the scenes with the apollo 12, 13, 14 ,15, 16 sweaters and corresponding room #s cut from the shining or maybe they are in the director's cut?

[Dankasaur]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

well, that certainly proves they faked apollo 11 but what about the other 5 lunar landings? were the scenes with the apollo 12, 13, 14 ,15, 16 sweaters and corresponding room #s cut from the shining or maybe they are in the director's cut?

I also guess that Kubrick has proof that Curiosity Rover is also fake.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Dankasaur

I also guess that Kubrick has proof that Curiosity Rover is also fake.

i believe that connection is cleverly revealed in "eyes wide shut". it's super cool how they also included these reveals in mainstream movies, just to fuck with us.

it's also pretty impressive that they faked 11+ hours of televised coverage of the first landing with film tech that wasn't even available then.

nothing our government can't accomplish! well, except for going to the moon, of course, duh!

[duk75]

Senseless and stupid things. Stop wasting time.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

well, that certainly proves they faked apollo 11 but what about the other 5 lunar landings? were the scenes with the apollo 12, 13, 14 ,15, 16 sweaters and corresponding room #s cut from the shining or maybe they are in the director's cut?

Pretty sure even NASA doesn't claim Apollo 13 landed on the Moon, bro.

What's more sinister is that after Kubrick gave the game away (and is now dead... the plot thickens), they had to re-evaluate the distance to the Moon (aka re-calibrate the device projecting it on to the dome we call 'the sky') by 1000 miles, to 238k, so nobody would make the connection with room 237.

Sadly for NASA, they didn't anticipate the invention of Youtube.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Pretty sure even NASA doesn't claim Apollo 13 landed on the Moon, bro.

What's more sinister is that after Kubrick gave the game away (and is now dead... the plot thickens), they had to re-evaluate the distance to the Moon (aka re-calibrate the device projecting it on to the dome we call 'the sky') by 1000 miles, to 238k, so nobody would make the connection with room 237.

Sadly for NASA, they didn't anticipate the invention of Youtube.

i was more focused on counting.

[stinkyfingers]

[CaptainHowdy]

That makes some crazy sense ...

[dyna mo]

it seems the clip is from this documentary:::::::

After the box office failure of Barry Lyndon, Stanley Kubrick decided to embark on a project that might have more commercial appeal. The Shining, Stephen King's biggest critical and commercial success yet, seemed like a perfect vehicle. After an arduous production, Kubrick's film received a wide release in the summer of 1980; the reviews were mixed, but the box office, after a slow start, eventually picked up. End of story? Hardly. In the 30 years since the film's release, a considerable cult of Shining devotees has emerged, fans who claim to have decoded the film's secret messages addressing everything from the genocide of Native Americans to a range of government conspiracies. Rodney Ascher's wry and provocative Room 237 fuses fact and fiction through interviews with cultists and scholars, creating a kaleidoscopic deconstruction of Kubrick's still-controversial classic.



it appears the clip is taken out of context as the documentary is an exploration into how people see the same thing differently, using the movie as a platform.

i might have to check itout!

[kane]

There is also a documentary called Room 237 about The Shining and supposedly all of the subtext in the movie from the Apollo landing the holocaust to Native American genocide.

A few months back Kubrick's grandson and daughter did an AMA on Reddit. Someone asked them about the moon landing and The Shining. they laughed it off and said that Kubrick was a very detailed man. These crazy details exist in many of his movies.

There has also been some pieces written by long time Kubrick assistance that pretty much debunk most of the conspiracy theories surrounding this movie.

The Shining is a fascinating movie on multiple levels. Because of that you can read into it what you want which is the basis for all good conspiracy theories.

[2013]

cliff notes in like 3 words??

what the fuck

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

it's also pretty impressive that they faked 11+ hours of televised coverage of the first landing with film tech that wasn't even available then.

I love this one. The technology to film space men on Earth did not exist in 1969, but the technology to put space men on the Moon and get them home safely did exist. Comedy gold.

Since film technology 'wasn't available' to film men on Earth, it begs the question how was Fly By Foy (the company hired by the Nixon Administration to act out a fake moon landing, should Nixon's primary broadcast fail for some reason) going to do what they were supposed to do?

[leg4]

I watched all these... I found it very entertaining.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

I love this one. The technology to film space men on Earth did not exist in 1969, but the technology to put space men on the Moon and get them home safely did exist. Comedy gold.

Since film technology 'wasn't available' to film men on Earth, it begs the question how was Fly By Foy (the company hired by the Nixon Administration to act out a fake moon landing, should Nixon's primary broadcast fail for some reason) going to do what they were supposed to do?

it took an entire nation focused for years to get to the moon, themoon budget took 5% of the entire budget national budget. it was all combined with the race against our nuclear enemy. it was THE goal the government focused the nation on. it was the entire basis around "ask not what your country can do for you but you can do for your country".

spend that mount of resources and government speeches on film tech and they could shoot 11 hours of ~7 second delayed fake moon television shit in 1969.

[candyflip]

I have friends who have written a script on this and have a lot of interesting research.

It's become a more fictitious piece, like this past year's The Master.

But the theory is interesting to say the least. I don't doubt that we landed on the moon, but I do believe that some of what was shown to the people was reproduced here on earth to some extent.

[2MuchMark]

Wow... that is just such a crazy connection list I don't even know where to start.

Is that video clip an actual clip from the movie "237"? If so, I definitely won't bother going to see it. Kubrick was a genius and to see him reduced to stupid conspiracy theorist kibble is insulting.

[Dankasaur]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

i believe that connection is cleverly revealed in "eyes wide shut". it's super cool how they also included these reveals in mainstream movies, just to fuck with us.

it's also pretty impressive that they faked 11+ hours of televised coverage of the first landing with film tech that wasn't even available then.

nothing our government can't accomplish! well, except for going to the moon, of course, duh!

I heard the government also faked dinosaurs.

[wehateporn]

Kubrick was the best man for the job as he proved with his film A Space Odyssey in 1968, no wonder he was invited to film the moon landings in 1969.

[wehateporn]

Kubrick is even telling us why the moon landings were faked i.e. Cold War race against the Soviet Union

Soviet Bear

Soviet Bear

[Harmon]

Some of you people (OP) are so fucking moronic it's not even remotely amusing. Some of you should seriously start considering some sort of professional psychiatric evaluation or treatment. It's actually quite sad to know that there are people in your lives that you interact with on a daily basis that would allow you to continually make yourself look like an ass clown and not clue you in on the fact.

[OldJeff]

How do some of you manage to tie your shoes ?

[Markul]

Originally Posted by Harmon

Some of you people (OP) are so fucking moronic it's not even remotely amusing. Some of you should seriously start considering some sort of professional psychiatric evaluation or treatment. It's actually quite sad to know that there are people in your lives that you interact with on a daily basis that would allow you to continually make yourself look like an ass clown and not clue you in on the fact.

This

[BlackCrayon]

you can find "hidden meanings" in anything if you really want to see them bad enough.

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Pretty sure even NASA doesn't claim Apollo 13 landed on the Moon, bro.

What's more sinister is that after Kubrick gave the game away (and is now dead... the plot thickens), they had to re-evaluate the distance to the Moon (aka re-calibrate the device projecting it on to the dome we call 'the sky') by 1000 miles, to 238k, so nobody would make the connection with room 237.

Sadly for NASA, they didn't anticipate the invention of Youtube.

Sadly for those with mental illnesses such as yours the Internet does exist where you can find others afflicted by the same maladies and co-enable each other.

You're more to be pitied than ridiculed.

[wehateporn]

[bronco67]

I started watching that movie Room 237 because I love the Shining, and it was full of pathetic fruitcakes who see whatever they want in ANYTHING. I almost rolled my eyes out of my head. These are people who think they're smart, but they just don't know how stupid they look when they come up with these half baked theories.

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Kubrick was the best man for the job as he proved with his film A Space Odyssey in 1968, no wonder he was invited to film the moon landings in 1969.

mission speech:


astronauts, you have been chosen to go on a dangerous mission, your years of training will not be needed. please report on time to the film studio tomorrow morning, 0500, for your first meeting with the movie director and script read-throughs.

[Choopa_Pardo]

No one is denying we actually landed on the moon. what this person is hypothesizing is that the footage we say on television was faked in a studio as NASA didn't have the ability to film the landing

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by Choopa_Pardo

No one is denying we actually landed on the moon. what this person is hypothesizing is that the footage we say on television was faked in a studio as NASA didn't have the ability to film the landing

where'd you come up with this?

[Choopa_Pardo]

What one of the presenters in Room 237 hypothesized.

I take analysis like this with a grain of salt, but it's an interesting way of looking at films.

There is no denying that Kubrick was a fantastically talented director, almost peerless in his abilities. I have read the Shining and seen the movie many times, and it's clear that Kubrick threw away most of King's novel and kept only what he was interested in. the aspects of the film that are not associated with the novel were Kubrick's ideas alone.

do I actually think Kubrick staged the moon landing footage? No. I do enjoy this approach to film analysis though.

[dyna mo]

he's confused, the tech to video record the lunar landings was nothing special. broacasting it to various links around the globe that rebroadcast it on tele was also nothing special.

what would have been special are slow motion cams, amongst other tech.

[_Richard_]

funny the change of dialogue eh?

[Tom_PM]

The Shining is all about Moonshine people, all the clues are there. The black guy, the river of blood, the hedge maze, that room they walk past sometimes, everything. If you're smart enough then you'll figure it out, otherwise you've been brainwashed and brainrinsed and brainrepeated.

[grumpy]

that carpet was in the hotel before they did the shooting and its still there ( been there )

[Markul]

Originally Posted by grumpy

that carpet was in the hotel before they did the shooting and its still there ( been there )

*pssst* don't tell the looonies, they were finally finding some rock solid evidence to back their crazy ideas!

[John-ACWM]

Originally Posted by grumpy

that carpet was in the hotel before they did the shooting and its still there ( been there )

Now that's some useful info!

[Sly]

Originally Posted by Choopa_Pardo

No one is denying we actually landed on the moon. what this person is hypothesizing is that the footage we say on television was faked in a studio as NASA didn't have the ability to film the landing

Somebody posted a 10 min. video clip a few months back from a current day producer who went into great detail explaining how the filming, at that time, could have only been possible the way it was presented to the public. He stated that it absolutely could not have been faked due to technological limitations. I don't know much about film, but it was pretty interesting. I believe he had won some awards as well, so not just some bored hack.

Conspiracy theories are nice. It allows those that don't produce to feel good about themselves. Probably saves us a few massacres a year.

[JP-pornshooter]

recently i learned there is a group of people who are convinced that the jet exhaust (the white "exhaust" behind a jetliner) is a chemical used to control the atmosphere.
cant believe some folks, put your tin foils hat back on.

[Choopa_Pardo]

Originally Posted by grumpy

that carpet was in the hotel before they did the shooting and its still there ( been there )

All interior scenes of the shining were shot at a specially constructed set in England. Exterior shots were done at the Timberline Lodge in Oregon.

therefore, if the Timberline has that carpet it was added after the film was released.

Where I was a the Timberline a few years back there was no carpeting, hardwood floors everywhere.

[Sly]

Hey I have a cool YouTube video, too!

[Harmon]

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

recently i learned there is a group of people who are convinced that the jet exhaust (the white "exhaust" behind a jetliner) is a chemical used to control the atmosphere.
cant believe some folks, put your tin foils hat back on.

Chemtrails... I actually knew (I no longer associate with him) somebody that actually believed this crap.

[dyna mo]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_TV_camera

[dyna mo]

the ct's can't account for moon rocks either




moon rocks + lack of video tech


you cter's got some splainin to do!

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by grumpy

that carpet was in the hotel before they did the shooting and its still there ( been there )

Room 237 wasn't already there though

[dyna mo]

smoking gun!

would kubrick ever shoot handheld? i don't think so, he's a 35mm guy!

[Dankasaur]

Originally Posted by Sly

Hey I have a cool YouTube video, too!

Originally Posted by dyna mo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_TV_camera

[pimpmaster9000]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

but its a stupid argument...

if we was a liar he would have no problem putting his hand on the bible and lying again.....


if he is not a liar......


then it is highly offensive for some asswipe to approach you with a bible and make you jump though hoops for his paranoid entertainment and curiosity...

the fact that niel armstrong refused to chase this idiots ball means absolutely nothing....

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

the ct's can't account for moon rocks either



moon rocks + lack of video tech

you cter's got some splainin to do!

Huh? The Soviets have moon rocks too, genius. Even your own image says so. I guess you think that means they put men on the moon too but chose to keep quiet about it.

Seriously, you "man on the moon" loons are so far gone it's not true. You will grasp at anything, however tenuous, to try and 'prove' your crazy beliefs, even Youtube weirdos in funny hats. Get help.

But please, do carry on with the one about how NASA could get men on the moon multiple times, 40+ years ago (but never since), film those men on the moon, and return those men back to Earth safely... but they were completely stumped at how to simulate slow motion video/film.

Because that one is totally fucking hilarious.