AlexWebMaster

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At these prices they are paying webmasters
DE (Germany) = $ 6.5 for 1000 unique mobile redirects
NL (Netherlands) = $ 2.2 for 1000 unique mobile redirects
Prices for US mobile traffic, too funny!
and pay only for the unique traffic!
all traffic is not unique, they do not return!
You send them to 1000 visitors, and they will pay only 700, is even less! The remaining 300 are lost it is not clear where.
May not need to cheat webmasters?

bean-aid

what?
US should be highest. I think.

AlexWebMaster

the price for US Mobile = $1.8
They hide the whole sale price! Statistics profits updated 1 time per day.

19teenporn

Judo porn:

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I don't think 0.001% of your visitors have a clue about what a sponsor is dude...

bean-aid

the owners are Scandinavian, i'm not sure... US should be the highest though

bean-aid

I do.... and if I do... so do my surfers ;) Something is going right if traffic grows every day.

19teenporn

Don't get me wrong, i'm not attacking you.

This is a genuine comment. People has no clue about what a sponsor is. I can guarantee you, only us know what a sponsor is.

Markul

Mobile US traffic should not be the highest, out of all western countries that is usually the cheapest. There is a reason for that.

AlexWebMaster

this is the reason mobile billing

AlexWebMaster

if they sell
Germany for $ 17
Netherlands for $ 30
United States for $ 6.5
and pay less than 50%
thus do not pay for all the traffic, but only for the unique. All other traffic disappears and does not return.

Markul

Yup

Cannot comment on the prices other than say that most brokers does this and that they do return traffic if you set the URL all of this is quite common with traffic brokers.

AlexWebMaster

they do not return for the return URL. You can see it. Send them in 1000 , the statistics will be about 700, and the return URL will take about 10-20.
but that the return URL is to come 1000-700 = 300

AlexWebMaster

provisional prices Plugrush:
It = 16.5 / 32 = 50%
gb = 3.5 / 8.4 = 50%
fr = 5 / 10.5 = 50%
br = 1.8 / 3.6 = 50%
es = 5.3 / 10.3 = 50%
ch = 21 / 41 = 50%
sg = 4.5 / 9.1 = 50%
my = 3.5 / 7 = 50%

but for these countries pay less 50%
de = 6.5 / 17.8 = 35%
co = 1.5 / 6 = 25%
us = 1.8 / 7 = 25%
nl = 2.2 / 30 = 7%

I wonder why??

AlexWebMaster

country = sale / buy

Markul

IF you traffic is 100% human and not bots, then yes it should be 300.

Harmon

Shut off mobile redirects in your admin panel

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AlexWebMaster

I do not like when I was deceived, and here an obvious deception!

Markul

That crossed the line w.o. evidence. Just fyi.

seeandsee

biggest price for market makes the most, what is strange there?

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AlexWebMaster

They have decided to make more profit!
Stopped sending them traffic, it is theft, not business.!

Markul

Do you require the supermarket to sell you the milk at the same price that they are buying it for?

Do you call them thieves too?

AlexWebMaster

They take all the traffic, but only pay for unique!
Let him pay 50% of the purchase price.
but to pay $ 4,2 (Germany) for mobile traffic and sell for $17.8

for others they are paying 50%
Why DE CO US NL so understated??

mineistaken

there are no regulations on how much % they can give to publishers, if they want to give different percentages for certain countries they are free to do so. Its not a theft, you idiot.

signupdamnit

Their only real competition with mobiles is primarily juicy ads and I've noticed they have been chummy at times on the boards. This is the situation increasingly in adult. There is a lack of competition and consolidation. Mineistaken is correct that this is not technically theft. It's just taking advantage of publishers and that's very common in adult.

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signupdamnit

Because they can.

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AlexWebMaster

You're far from reality! Ha - ha - ha!
You do not even understand where you are deceived.
And an idiot - it's you!

AlexWebMaster

Pick up all the traffic and pay only 70% of the received traffic? This, too, can they?
Good luck! Further discuss this topic does not make sense.
You cheated and you still defend it!

mineistaken

So they claim that they pay only for unique traffic and you want them to pay for non uniques as well, even those you agreed to their TOS that you get paid only for uniques?

signupdamnit

I'm not defending it at all. You would think 75% revshare with 25% for them would be more than enough. I think it's greed like you say. Because they can get away with paying 30% for some countries they do so. Look for alternatives and if one finally comes then remember how they these guys treated you. You did the right thing by posting.

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AlexWebMaster

1. You offer their goods.
2. They take all your goods.
3. But not all the goods will be paid, and the only one that they like.
Is this normal?

You probably do not realize that you are losing traffic and money.

AlexWebMaster

You see statistics profits once a day it is also correct?
They can reduce the price of traffic, and you'll know about it only after 24 hours!
Because it's easier to cheat. They can put any price.

Okay, that's it and your decision. Do you want to send them your traffic, even if you are deceived!

Since they will pay only unique traffic, you will make a profit with approximately 70% of the traffic, sometimes lower.
You lose 30%. If the price for Mobile Germany is currently $ 4.5. Subtract another 30%4.5 - 30% = $ 3.15
$ 3.15 - this is the actual price.
You like it? Come on! Good luck!
As long as you feel like it, they will reduce prices further. You are silent, they are happy!

mineistaken

They officially and openly claim that they pay for uniques only.
If they did not pay for some uniques than you would have a point, but apparently they pay for them.

Some companies pay per confirmed emails only, would you also be mad that they do not pay for your sent non confirmed emails?
I can not believe your ignorance. You send traffic to company that claims to pay for uniques only and complain that you don't get paid for non uniques

mineistaken

They can and are free to pay whatever percentage they want. They legally can pay 1% if that is stated in your agreement with them.
Like he said - if there is not much competition then sponsors can take more advantage. Why would they pay more if people agree to promote them for less? Business 1 on 1, you idiot.

AlexWebMaster

If your meager brain can only offend. Then you'll never know enough to understand the whole point! Because you're an idiot!

Pronstar

Ok, here is my experience. When you trade they send A LOT , and I mean like five or ten times more than I gave them. Problem is, when I check my sponsor clicks, out of 2600 hits I get NO hits. I changed the sponsor and get the same result.
To be perfectly honest, the problem might be in the fact that I've got a tube with links under the video.

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mineistaken

Your point is that they are too greedy, but you wrongly call that theft.

AlexWebMaster

In the name of the topic is written - "Greed!"
Well, how are you? Profits increase last days??

AlexWebMaster

How profit and statistics for yesterday??

AlexWebMaster

sometimes disappear from the statistics of 1 hour, look at the statistics for the period 2013-05-01 / 12:00:00 - 12:59:59
you compensate for that time??

nextri

we had some server issues yesterday. they are sorted out now, but stats are a bit behind and should be up to date later today. we will also compensate for the lost revenue during the downtime.

as for your statements about everything else.. you are mssing a few details.
just because there is a german or NL campaign paying a set price and has the highest bid, doesn't mean we sell all german or NL traffic for that price. If the highest bidder have a hourly cap at 100 hits, then most traffic will not be sent to that campaign, but might be sent to a campaign paying less. We are not scamming anyone. We are working hard to let our publishers make the most from their traffic, and probably take a smaller percentage than many other ad networks. Our percentage vary depending on campaigns and traffic type, but publishers usually get an average of 75-95% of the revenue generated from all campaigns.

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AlexWebMaster

Hmmmm...
Delivery Method: Mobile Redirect Traffic
Geographical Sources : Germany
Minimum CPV: $0.01750 Minimum cost per unique visitor based on your targeting
Highest CPV bid within your targeting is currently $0.01966 per unique visitor
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$0.01750 4 campaigns have higher or equal CPV. Please consider increasing the CPV
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at least 4 Buyers
Price from $ 0.01750 to $ 0.01966
the minimum price of $ 0.01750
where is 75-95% if you pay $6.5 ???

nextri

So at least 4 campaigns are paying those amounts, but all 4 might have a low hourly limit.
What happens if we don't have high paying campaigns available after all 4 have gotten their hourly limit, is that the traffic gets sent to lower paying catchall campaigns that accepts traffic from all countries. These campaigns will pull down the CPV average if the top paying campaigns have a low hourly limit, and we have a lot of traffic from the given country.

Where are you getting the $6.5 number from?

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nextri

an additional reason why you might not get the highest cpm can be because the advertisers paying the most are actively monitoring the sources and are disabling low converting publisher sites. And your sites might be disabled for some of those campaigns.

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Zeiss

Turn off mobile and send it to VPS and set SGM as traffic back. Works wonders, man!

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Va2k

I love plugrush but right now we are taking a lot of their stuff down, reason the pic's are too young looking, or teens and we make sure to uncheck ANYTHING dealing with teens it's too risky and we do not offer anything with teens in our network. *shrugs* Love them though and hope to get this fixed so we can put them back on our 30 blog network and our tube network and within our huge network of pay sites.

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Zeiss

You don't need to take them down! LOL! Just block what you don't like or report to support the plug appoval guy messed up. They'll fix it for you. People make mistakes, man. Happens.

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Va2k

It is in the ad zone and tried to block but the type of things we need to block you can't block! I am not in any way bashing them they are great just pointing this out and what we work we have had to redo tis all.

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Zeiss

If you block ads (not plugs) they don't disappear right away. Takes some time for the block list to update. Did you also check what categories you picked for the adspace? Also if you have blind traffic enabled, maybe that is your very problem right there. I think it (blind traffic) uses random plugs.

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nextri

blind traffic is being redirected from regular plugs when a user clicks a plug that leads to a page where he has already been. so enabling blind traffic sales will not show anything "new" in your widgets

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Va2k

that's not it looked at other post LOL thanks though.

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