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Old 05-21-2013, 04:20 PM   #1
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DatingGold.com PPL Ripoff

I had a few users tell me that they signed up with my AFF link and I kept refreshing the stats page for hours with no signups..

I started digging around and read that you only get paid for male users and since there is no "Gender" in the signup process something looked suspicious..

well It looks as if you only get paid if you refer a users and he signups and obviously confirming the email, but then going into profile edit settings and set gender to male.. which is completely retarded or just plain scam.

>>This program is restricted to US, Canada, UK and Australia male users only.
a signup should show immediateness after confirming the email and not after going into settings and making changes..
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Sounds like a great scam to me! Just a way for them to shave off leads. Good find!
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check it out for yourself..

>webcamclub.com/register.php

I dont see no Gender anywhere.. and no wonder I have't had any PPL for the past month
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check it out for yourself..

>webcamclub.com/register.php

I dont see no Gender anywhere.. and no wonder I have't had any PPL for the past month
Your correct.. It dosent ask for gender for webcamclub however xxxdating did on the 2nd page of their join up process.
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I'm promoting the PPL from the webcam they have..

half hour ago I asked my friend that lives in Texas in the US to signup with my aff code and to set gender to male.. still no signup in my stats page..
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maybe you have to add a credit card on file to count as PPL?
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Once you login you must click on the profile text link in the menu on left of the page.
And then you can select your gender. I tried to edit my account by clicking on the account icon located on the top menu. Dident do anything when clicked. Probably will confuse members.
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maybe you have to add a credit card on file to count as PPL?
Not sure.. But I see exactly whats hes saying. Other sites ask for gender during the actual sign up process. Webcamclub does not, forcing users to update the account so he can get paid.
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adulttraffic, even after setting the gender can you confirm that you got a new signup? it looks like it works sometimes only..
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adulttraffic, even after setting the gender can you confirm that you got a new signup? it looks like it works sometimes only..
I'm not testing under a affiliate link, so I cant tell you. Just confirming the join up process for you.
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hey there, someone linked me to this thread and my first reaction would be to know if you have tried to talk to us about your issues.
we have Tofu as our dedicated cam rep and he's not even sure what was going on.
would you mind giving me your account so we can look into it?

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I had a few users tell me that they signed up with my AFF link and I kept refreshing the stats page for hours with no signups..

I started digging around and read that you only get paid for male users and since there is no "Gender" in the signup process something looked suspicious..

well It looks as if you only get paid if you refer a users and he signups and obviously confirming the email, but then going into profile edit settings and set gender to male.. which is completely retarded or just plain scam.

>>This program is restricted to US, Canada, UK and Australia male users only.
a signup should show immediateness after confirming the email and not after going into settings and making changes..
Webcamclub leads arent based on a profile setting. Let me get your username
or at least answer my ICQ. Nice of you to reach out before posting and getting
people stirred up, BTW...
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I been using dating gold for years and never had problems tracking leads for any of their websites. If there was a glitch it eventually caught up or was fixed. Should have had them check your account! I love DG!
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pointing out this issue to cam reps would fix the issue indeed.

I feel like I have been betrayed by this company and therefore I don't care about fixing issues anymore.. once someone steals from me I don't do business with them anymore.

please fix your cam scam so other users that don't know about this can honestly get paid..
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pointing out this issue to cam reps would fix the issue indeed.

I feel like I have been betrayed by this company and therefore I don't care about fixing issues anymore.. once someone steals from me I don't do business with them anymore.

please fix your cam scam so other users that don't know about this can honestly get paid..
Since you don't care about fixing any issues with us, would you at least tell me your account so we can actually say here what happens?

I don't think stating that on our terms that we only pay for male is a scam.
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Since you don't care about fixing any issues with us, would you at least tell me your account so we can actually say here what happens?

I don't think stating that on our terms that we only pay for male is a scam.
please read the thread so that you can completely understand.. playing dumb with me doesn't work.
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please read the thread so that you can completely understand.. playing dumb with me doesn't work.
Not playing dumb, but would it be too much if I ask you to provide your affiliate account with us?

At this point, I understand that you're NEVER going to send us any traffic, but I think we do have the right to know if you actually did send traffic and your friends did sign up with us and are legit users.

Sure u're helping the others by warning them about this, but why didn't you want to provide us with your account?
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If you read the blackhat forums you will see that most suggest avoiding adult dating at all costs. They suggest casual dating instead because either adult dating converts 10 times worse or they will say that they outright skim/shave. These sort of claims picked up quite a bit in early 2012. I'm not speaking of DG but the whole industry. This is the buzz. Take it or leave it.
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If you read the blackhat forums you will see that most suggest avoiding adult dating at all costs. They suggest casual dating instead because either adult dating converts 10 times worse or they will say that they outright skim/shave. These sort of claims picked up quite a bit in early 2012. I'm not speaking of DG but the whole industry. This is the buzz. Take it or leave it.
Got a link? I'm interested.
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Got a link? I'm interested.
I'm already risking getting banned by saying this kind of thing. It's not against the rules technically but shit happens. Search Google for "blackhat dating shave" or "blackhat dating skim". You'll see a lot.
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If you read the blackhat forums you will see that most suggest avoiding adult dating at all costs. They suggest casual dating instead because either adult dating converts 10 times worse or they will say that they outright skim/shave. These sort of claims picked up quite a bit in early 2012. I'm not speaking of DG but the whole industry. This is the buzz. Take it or leave it.
I'm on that forum and some of the skype groups and the top reason I
see that they won't deal with us is because we don't accept a lot of the
various traffic sources that some of those guys come to us with.

I'm not challenging you, BTW. Just from my personal lurking.
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I'm already risking getting banned by saying this kind of thing. It's not against the rules technically but shit happens. Search Google for "blackhat dating shave" or "blackhat dating skim". You'll see a lot.
Well if they are using certain blackhat techniques that is a risk they have to take.
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lol.. all good

nothing against blackhat forum , why is it called black hat?

you wont be getting banned for saying that, ure not accusing anybody.

I wish LRS would just give us his account so we can see how he's got his Friends signing up for a PPL knowing that they have no intention to buy the service.

you think it's fair for sponsors to pay for fake leads?

we recently caught few affiliates that were sending us fake signups, I hope he is not of of those affiliates.

as of this writing, we are still waiting for his account info.
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lol.. all good

nothing against blackhat forum , why is it called black hat?

you wont be getting banned for saying that, ure not accusing anybody.

I wish LRS would just give us his account so we can see how he's got his Friends signing up for a PPL knowing that they have no intention to buy the service.

you think it's fair for sponsors to pay for fake leads?

we recently caught few affiliates that were sending us fake signups, I hope he is not of of those affiliates.

as of this writing, we are still waiting for his account info.
either he has no account
or your never going to get it,
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lol.. all good

nothing against blackhat forum , why is it called black hat?

you wont be getting banned for saying that, ure not accusing anybody.

I wish LRS would just give us his account so we can see how he's got his Friends signing up for a PPL knowing that they have no intention to buy the service.

you think it's fair for sponsors to pay for fake leads?

we recently caught few affiliates that were sending us fake signups, I hope he is not of of those affiliates.

as of this writing, we are still waiting for his account info.
I've found that because of the way blackhats do things they can often tell who is cheating. It's ironic but it's often very good information. Honest webmasters have a harder time knowing who is a cheat and I think some exploit that.

I believe I've seen LRS around in other places. I don't have the impression of him being someone who would cheat you. Although I wouldn't doubt if a webmaster did a test or two themselves or with some friends. That's not really cheating. That's called a test. Unless you do it all the time.

I'm not surprised that he doesn't want to give account information. Many sponsors would instantly attack someone making this type of post by suing them or persecuting them in some way. For example by calling them a cheater. It's a common tactic. The way I see it either the claims are true or they aren't. It doesn't matter who he is beyond establishing credibility. And I can see what I need from his past posts.
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lol.. all good

nothing against blackhat forum , why is it called black hat?

you wont be getting banned for saying that, ure not accusing anybody.

I wish LRS would just give us his account so we can see how he's got his Friends signing up for a PPL knowing that they have no intention to buy the service.

you think it's fair for sponsors to pay for fake leads?

we recently caught few affiliates that were sending us fake signups, I hope he is not of of those affiliates.

as of this writing, we are still waiting for his account info.
Surely you've heard of a test join. God knows I would double check. Bit of a lame angle your trying to play there regardless.
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I've found that because of the way blackhats do things they can often tell who is cheating. It's ironic but it's often very good information. Honest webmasters have a harder time knowing who is a cheat and I think some exploit that.

I believe I've seen LRS around in other places. I don't have the impression of him being someone who would cheat you. Although I wouldn't doubt if a webmaster did a test or two themselves or with some friends. That's not really cheating. That's called a test. Unless you do it all the time.

I'm not surprised that he doesn't want to give account information. Many sponsors would instantly attack someone making this type of post by suing them or persecuting them in some way. For example by calling them a cheater. It's a common tactic. The way I see it either the claims are true or they aren't. It doesn't matter who he is beyond establishing credibility. And I can see what I need from his past posts.
Well put, I agree 100%.
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lol.. all good

nothing against blackhat forum , why is it called black hat?

you wont be getting banned for saying that, ure not accusing anybody.

I wish LRS would just give us his account so we can see how he's got his Friends signing up for a PPL knowing that they have no intention to buy the service.

you think it's fair for sponsors to pay for fake leads?

we recently caught few affiliates that were sending us fake signups, I hope he is not of of those affiliates.

as of this writing, we are still waiting for his account info.
Whats the point of him giving you his account? The question is if you count a lead when the user manually changes the gender in his profile. This is not difficult to understand.
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I had a few users tell me that they signed up with my AFF link and I kept refreshing the stats page for hours with no signups..

I started digging around and read that you only get paid for male users and since there is no "Gender" in the signup process something looked suspicious..

well It looks as if you only get paid if you refer a users and he signups and obviously confirming the email, but then going into profile edit settings and set gender to male.. which is completely retarded or just plain scam.

>>This program is restricted to US, Canada, UK and Australia male users only.
a signup should show immediateness after confirming the email and not after going into settings and making changes..
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except answering the questions in this thread?
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Yeah so what is the answer? When is the affiliate paid?

I feel the need to test my own account at this point.
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I guess their system is extremely smart that it knows your gender since there is no option for it.. ohh wait its not smart enough to count real leads.. so besides verifying the account which in my books is just verifying the email address what else do users need to do? drivers license, credit card on file or what?

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Yes I have to stop sending traffic because in the stats appears a pretty lame uniques, that don't reflect the reality. I don't think that i will push anymore that affiliate program.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:14 AM   #44
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tested their mobile PPL few days ago, I think big shave to compare with others, I think loadedcash and AFF best of the best now. PPL is cute cocksucking bullshit.
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Old 05-22-2013, 02:37 AM   #45
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Well if they do indeed require the new user to go into his account after signing up and change his gender in order to qualify for a lead that would have a severe negative impact on conversion ratios. LRS did you actually ever do a test lead signup to confirm this?

What else concerns me is why are they only paying for "male" lead signups? So if I send a lesbian female as a lead who enjoys paying for camgirl privates, I'll receive nothing?
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[/QUOTE]

The answer is simple. They have Intelligent-Male-Name-DB thing associated with Username field on registration page, so if you put there Joanne, Alice or Sindy it will check the DB and they know you're not male...

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The answer is simple. They have Intelligent-Male-Name-DB thing associated with Username field on registration page, so if you put there Joanne, Alice or Sindy it will check the DB and they know you're not male...

I knew something like that was in play.. maybe i'm just sending too much lesbian traffic or something cus usually my traffic comes from watching naked women..
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Old 05-22-2013, 03:11 AM   #49
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I wish LRS would just give us his account so we can see how he's got his Friends signing up for a PPL knowing that they have no intention to buy the service.
Don't want to be asshole, but he said USERS (what ever that means) told him, not FRIENDS.

It's kind of a spinning situation if you say the way you called them...
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There is a big difference between Double Opt In and Double Opt In AND filling in profile (even partially)...

Does this apply to Single Opt In as well? - That would make the whole single opt in prog worthless.....

I am talking about Dating BTW - Would be good to get some clarity...
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