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Old 05-22-2013, 08:01 PM   #151
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:21 PM   #152
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All I know is the few times I've tried promoting dating in my Members Areas I got a few signups right away - then they always dwindled down to nothing in a couple months until I just pulled the links.

This has happened with cams, too. For whatever that's worth.

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You're right MisterPeabody you know now why.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:38 PM   #154
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I just remove DG from my webcam sponsors I don't want that any webmaster signup with this sponsor and gonna be scammed.

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Old 05-22-2013, 08:49 PM   #155
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I start promotig the Pay Per Lead from May 5 to 6 in a website with 12,000 unique visitors per day and only gets this stats of uniques in these days using the best adspots that i have i send at least 500 uniques and the Dating Gold shows only 3 and 6 and not only that the old whitelabel of cams that i have don't show any traffic and I was sending traffic in that domain.

If your traffic is as good as your english, you are probably sending a ton of foreign visitors which don't get counted I think.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:50 PM   #156
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t's a choice as to how one wants to spend their time and energy.
Best advice in this whole thread.

Can't say much about this subject as I haven't sent a single hit to DG in years, but I had worked with AK and Jayvis directly with things in the past, and they're a great group of guys... Tofu... What do I say about Tofu? He likes big girls.
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Old 05-22-2013, 08:56 PM   #157
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My traffic is HQ like LRS says they scam people but if you want belive it is your own decision ;)
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If you want to be fucked in the ass with all the evidence is all yours ;)
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:00 PM   #159
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I ran a paysite way back when... had a HUGE number of female customers, never a single charge-back. It could also be husband using the wife's card.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:01 PM   #160
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If you want to be fucked in the ass with all the evidence is all yours ;)
Nobody is going to take you seriously with those stats. 9 hits? Even if you are telling the truth about what you think you sent, its still makes you look like a joke
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:03 PM   #161
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CamBoss thats what i don't send i send much more....... The point of that is that the stats doesnt refelect the reality
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I send much more traffic but doesnt appears in the stats, What i have to think?
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:05 PM   #163
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CamBoss thats what i don't send i send much more....... The point of that is that the stats doesnt refelect the reality
I get where you are coming from but it still looks like you are complaining about a program you have never even made a dime with. You tested it. It doesn't seem to be working for you. Why the hatred toward the program? I have never promoted them so I'm neutral on this.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:06 PM   #164
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I make more than a thousand of dollars in the past, but now is just scamming with that stats...
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I make more than a thousand of dollars in the past, but now is just scamming with that stats...
You made over $1000 with them in the past?
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The stats doesn't reflect the reality.
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those are not his stats, those stats are from a mailer on BHW
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:08 PM   #168
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Yes I made over $1000 in the past with DG. I'm not a newbie.
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switch to the sponsors in my sig... avoid this mess
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:15 PM   #170
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Yes i switch to another sponsors with good results. But DG stills lying to webmasters, I don't think is fair like LRS prompt it.

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Old 05-22-2013, 09:23 PM   #171
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I don't care how this ends, but I expose the true, Cheers adult webmasters ;)
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:24 PM   #172
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You can't trust anyone. Period. The best people close up shop and disappear at a moments notice all the time. The only thing you can trust is data and earnings. Making it emotional and making it about false, subjective things like "faith", takes your eyes off the data and your ability to grow your income.


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ITX seems like a slander bot (if such a thing existed) launched by LRS to run roughshod over this thread...

My 2 cents AK laid waste to the OP.
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TheSquealer is a moron, the adult webmaster are smart and they have their own wings like Scat in the Hat says....
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thanks for clearing that up anything else you have to say?
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2013 the webmasters take their own decision with the info available....
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:49 PM   #178
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ITX seems like a slander bot (if such a thing existed) launched by LRS to run roughshod over this thread...

My 2 cents AK laid waste to the OP.
Yeah I've been following this thread since it started and the whole time he had LoadedCash in his sig... It seems fishy to me.
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I ran a paysite way back when... had a HUGE number of female customers, never a single charge-back. It could also be husband using the wife's card.
Cam sites are not paysites. Women may pay for porn, as a general rule, women don't pay to talk to other woman in private one on one chat shows where chargebacks and fraud are a real problem.
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Obviously i'm dumb. You have a whole 9 hits to toss around and test traffic on and you're so clever, you wanted to prove you actually command this much traffic. If you say i'm a moron, then i'm a moron.
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Cam sites are not paysites. Women may pay for porn, as a general rule, women don't pay to talk to other woman in private one on one chat shows where chargebacks and fraud are a real problem.
You're probably right. It was a celeb site, so it also had that "gossip" or "tabloid" factor going for it that would attract female subscribers.
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You're probably right. It was a celeb site, so it also had that "gossip" or "tabloid" factor going for it that would attract female subscribers.
One example of what happens with live chat is that you have say a Russian girls or Romanian girl who's boyfriends are using stolen cards to spend time with them in the chat room (card info can be bought easily). Just a clever way of stealing the money from the card, and her getting paid without ever having to implicate ones self (as opposed to going to a store and purchasing merchandise, ordering things that need to be sent to an address etc). When you pour over transactions, there is a very clear pattern of womens card holder names being associated with fraud and chargebacks.

I used to use the Census list of first 1000 most common female names as a tool to scrub out and flag for manual approval female card names for live chat. When you have to balance 1% chargebacks with a high risk business like live chat where users might make 5 transactions a day for 5 months and then charge it all back - thats a big deal and needs to be caught and shut down before it happens... as it not only gives you a several thousand dollar hit but skews chargeback ratios dramatically.
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This thread delivers!......................the most ridiculous stats of all time.



Obviously he was trying to send random, unfiltered traffic to a program that was set to accept only US/CA/AU traffic or something. And because he's a complete fucking retard, instead of asking, he just arbitrarily decided to declare he is a victim of fraud and theft.

The good news is that really dumb people not only dig our ditches and shovel horse shit and flip our burgers, but they also often provide their weight in gold in terms of entertainment.
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People......Bitches........Drama Queens.......Testicle lickers.....and those sitting on the toilet.....bottom fucken line...

were talking AK here.....

AK....

I mean this is fucking AK....

were talking Moses to Jews here people....This guy is Batman in Gotham City...He is the most honest guy any of you will ever meet. He is asking straight questions that you won't even reply to. At this point he should just post... Cya... I tried...He is wasting his time...

We love you AK... go back to work.... we got your back buddy!!!
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People......Bitches........Drama Queens.......Testicle lickers.....and those sitting on the toilet.....bottom fucken line...

were talking AK here.....

AK....

I mean this is fucking AK....

were talking Moses to Jews here people....This guy is Batman in Gotham City...He is the most honest guy any of you will ever meet. He is asking straight questions that you won't even reply to. At this point he should just post... Cya... I tried...He is wasting his time...

We love you AK... go back to work.... we got your back buddy!!!
What the hell does AK have to do with anything?
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What the hell does AK have to do with anything?
Hahaha, Howard thanks brotha.

KillerK, that was just Howard being over protective like an older brother would.
It has nothing to do with me being me.

It's simple, LRS made a strong comment about us scamming affiliates.
Itx agreed and posted his stats (which I think I found his account).
I'm sure he'd sent tons of clicks and we only recorded that much, it'd be nice to see the stats that says he sent 30k clicks.

I found a similar affiliate with this stats:


And I looked at his previous earning with us, the last time he was paid was last payment Mar 20 2012 . Which means he was paid up to March 15,2012.

Since then, he has an earning of $44.97, and he's on paypal which we have $100 threshold. The last time he accessed this account was May 22 2013 in which he was asked to update his password.

We added a new security system to ask affiliates update their passwords every 90 days suggested by Payoneer.

So Itx, if I am right about your account, please contact me so we can get you paid out this $45, and we can go separate ways.

However, I must tell you that your earning is from the recurring sales that we get from your webcam customers, your money is still here. I'm not gonna close your account but since you decided not to trust us, you can opt out to close your account and we'll pay you your balance.

I could be looking at the wrong account, ITX only you know if this is your account or not.

LRS, I'm still trying to figure you out ;)

BTW, why did you change your sig from LoadedCash?
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Someone repost the Loaded cash screenshot LRS posted please.

The one with the 2009 stats.
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The point is that the Dating Gold stats doesn't reflect the reality, in my stats appears 0 joins and in your real stats appears 1 join. But i don't send that traffic just "9 uniques" I send much more from a babe galleries website that I own, my advice to webmasters monitor careful how much traffic you send and how much appears in the DG stats. Yes I want close my account, and send me my $45 and I don't trust anymore in this webcam affiliate program. Thanks

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The point is that the Dating Gold stats doesn't reflect the reality, in my stats appears 0 joins and in your real stats appears 1 join. But i don't send that traffic just "9 uniques" I send much more from a babe galleries website that I own, my advice to webmasters monitor careful how much traffic you send and how much appears in the DG stats. Yes I want close my account, and send me my $45 and I don't trust anymore in this webcam affiliate program. Thanks
Do you know that you can GEOIP your out clicks, and only send DG the countries they actually convert on right and then send the other countries to someobody else.
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Old 05-27-2013, 02:28 PM   #198
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Hahaha, Howard thanks brotha.

KillerK, that was just Howard being over protective like an older brother would.
It has nothing to do with me being me.

It's simple, LRS made a strong comment about us scamming affiliates.
Itx agreed and posted his stats (which I think I found his account).
I'm sure he'd sent tons of clicks and we only recorded that much, it'd be nice to see the stats that says he sent 30k clicks.

I found a similar affiliate with this stats:


And I looked at his previous earning with us, the last time he was paid was last payment Mar 20 2012 . Which means he was paid up to March 15,2012.

Since then, he has an earning of $44.97, and he's on paypal which we have $100 threshold. The last time he accessed this account was May 22 2013 in which he was asked to update his password.

We added a new security system to ask affiliates update their passwords every 90 days suggested by Payoneer.

So Itx, if I am right about your account, please contact me so we can get you paid out this $45, and we can go separate ways.

However, I must tell you that your earning is from the recurring sales that we get from your webcam customers, your money is still here. I'm not gonna close your account but since you decided not to trust us, you can opt out to close your account and we'll pay you your balance.

I could be looking at the wrong account, ITX only you know if this is your account or not.

LRS, I'm still trying to figure you out ;)

BTW, why did you change your sig from LoadedCash?
And not just the stats of the PPL is not real due that I send much more traffic, an old whitelabel too just dissapears from the stats.... What happend with the whitelabel?


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Always use a jump script where possible. That way you can check the server logs or your stats to get information such as the amount of raw clicks in a day or even the uniques and the countries of the visitors. You might be very, very surprised what some sponsors are doing Keep in mind some level of discrepancy should be expected but I would say anything under 90% is suspect and under 80% is definitely suspect. Be sure to check whether they count things like chinese and turkish traffic.

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header("Location: $link");
exit();
Some sponsors might see that you are using such scripts and may decide not to mess with your traffic as much.
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Old 05-27-2013, 05:29 PM   #200
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Nobody is going to take you seriously with those stats. 9 hits? Even if you are telling the truth about what you think you sent, its still makes you look like a joke
His point was that he sent a lot more and got only those 9 hits. I send similar amount of hits to DG and I only have their links on couple small sites, maybe 1% traffic of what itx claimed.

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I get where you are coming from but it still looks like you are complaining about a program you have never even made a dime with. You tested it. It doesn't seem to be working for you. Why the hatred toward the program? I have never promoted them so I'm neutral on this.
So you claim that people who did not make money with some program should not be mad that that program shaved (if they thought so)?

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