Immoral Productions Cleared of Condom Violations by LA County Health - GoFuckYourself.com

Porno Dan · 05-22-2013, 10:47 AM

LOS ANGELES?Two days following the announcement in March by AIDS Healthcare Foundation that it had filed a complaint with the Director of Public Health for the County of Los Angeles accusing Immoral Productions of, among other things, shooting scenes in the county without using condoms, the Health Department began an investigation into the allegations, Immoral Productions CEO ?Porno Dan? Leal told AVN today. The results of the investigation followed quickly: Immoral was cleared of any wrongdoing. It was clear vindication for a man who insists he has been working hard for years to become a responsible producer of hardcore content.
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AVN spoke Tuesday with Leal and his attorney, Michael Fattorosi, in an exclusive interview about the investigation, the results of which are only now being disclosed. Though Leal is clearly relieved that the potentially serious allegations AHF allegedly received from an anonymous source have been found to be baseless, he and Fattorosi remain troubled by the fact that AHF felt emboldened enough not only to file the complaint without having conducted any apparent due diligence, but also to follow up the filing with a press release and press conference before an investigation into the charges was even begun. In fact, Fattorosi has sent a letter to AHF (see below) demanding a retraction, with the caveat, ?Failure to publicly retract your statements may lead to litigation.?

Leal told AVN, however, that he has no such complaints about the manner in which the Health Department inspectors conducted themselves during the inspection of his workplace. ?They could easily have come in and hassled us, but they didn?t,? he said. ?I have no complaint with them. They were courteous to us and utterly professional.?

Leal was kind enough to answer the following questions from AVN:

What were the original allegations by AHF?

That we did not have an exposure control plan, we had not been through blood-borne pathogen training, we did not have proper signage and we did not shoot with condoms.

How long after AHF filed their complaint did the Health Department conduct their investigation?

They called us the next day and came to my studio the following day to do their on-site investigation.

What were the results of the investigation? When did you first get them? Why have you delayed releasing the results?

They found no wrongdoing and dismissed the charges. Quite frankly, I am very busy running my company and expanding our operations; that is why I delayed releasing the finding.

How long did the investigation last? Do you have any details about the extent of the investigation? How many people did they interview, if any? Did they watch the video in question?

They were at my studio for about an hour and a half. They took pictures of our signage, condoms we have available, my invoices from Stericycle (who handle our biohazard removal?used condoms), my Stericycle trash can, locked unit where we keep the trash can, red bio-hazard bags, latex gloves and pictures of our set and studio. They already had copies of my exposure control plan from when I went to apply for my health permit. The video in question was from 2011.

Do you know if this investigation by the Health Department was a new endeavor for them, or whether it was routine? Aside from the results, do you have any issues with the way they conducted the investigation?

This was their first investigation and I have no issues with the way they conducted themselves. I found them to very professional.

Did you find out anything specific you did not previously know about the genesis of the original complaint, and who might have been the anonymous tipster?

Yes, we were able to read the complaint which was sent to the AHF. I believe, based on the way it was worded, that it came from someone who works in the adult industry.

Is there a lesson for producers or talent to learn from this first reporting episode in terms of preparing for a potential investigation by the Health Department?

Make sure you apply for and have all your permits in order and that you shoot with condoms. Use someone like we use at Stericycle to help you get your exposure control plan in place. It is not a question of if you will get caught if you do not do these things, but when.

Obviously, AHF submitted a false report of a violation to the Health Department? Do you believe they were incompetent in doing so, acted in good faith, or too quickly out of malice? Is there anything beyond speculation that you know regarding their motives?

No comment. [See next question.]

AHF not only submitted a report of a violation by Immoral, but held a press conference and disseminated the "news" to the world. How do you plan to respond to that, if at all?

I?ll let my lawyer comment on that.

Fattorosi commented: I cannot say what Mr. McGrath, Mr. Weinstein, or AHF's motives were for filing the complaint. I do believe that they acted with malice. That seems clear from their press release and the subsequent press conference. In my opinion, AHF targeted Immoral and Dan. Even the mainstream reporters covering the press conference sensed this and asked Weinstein why did he file a complaint against the one company that was complying with the law. I also find it interesting that AHF has now removed their libelous press release about Immoral Productions from their website.

[As far as a "plan to respond," see Michael Fattorosi's May 21 letter below]

What have you learned, if anything, from this episode?

I learned you can't be proactive enough, and I am very thankful I have all of our permits, exposure control plan and signage in place.

Leal also stressed to AVN that his commitment to being a responsible member of the adult entertainment industry, including taking an active involvement in the CalOSHA process for several years, is nothing new. In fact, Leal reminded AVN that he was previously inspected by CalOSHA regarding the disposal of condoms and passed the inspection with flying colors, and that he also was previously cited for filming without a film permit, which Fattorosi got dismissed by the court as well.

Leal added that police officers who have stopped by his studio?less than a handful of times for periodic visits?have made clear to him that there is a task force already in place that is tasked with finding illegal porn shoots as well as any other productions that do not have the requisite permits. The LAPD task force, he said, is comprised of six officers who travel around the city making sure that all film shoots, including porn shoots, have the right FilmLA permits.

?If you?re shooting without condoms in L.A.,? he warned, ?you?re going to get caught.?

In the end, the larger message for Leal seems to be that if this can happen to a producer who is also well-known to everyone involved?AHF, LAPD, County Health and CalOSHA?it can happen to anyone.

?Complying with this law is not something I ever wanted to do,? he told AVN, ?but the sad reality is that the nature of my business and my high profile in the industry puts a target on me, and I accept that. All these investigations do is make my company stronger. This did not hurt my business at all; in fact, my business has grown during this time period.

?And we?re shooting live,? he added. ?During our live shows, people will ask me, why are you shooting with condoms, and I reply to them right away, it?s the law. But even more amazing is that other members in the chat will also jump up to defend our decision to shoot with condoms.?

He added that as a performer he also now shoots with condoms and that even though it was not easy to perform with them at first, he quickly got used to them. He said the same goes for his hired performers, who also have had to adjust, but he said they are all acclimating to the new requirement just fine.

Fattorosi's letter to AHF on behalf of Immoral, which he sent today, May 21, notes that the organization was informed by the Department of Health in a letter dated April 15, 2013 that its complaint was ?not substantiated? and that the ?investigation was closed,? and no further action would be taken. (Both letters are available below.]

?We now demand," the letter continued, "that AIDS Healthcare Foundation publish a retraction to their libelous press release dated March 19, 2013... Your retraction should be distributed via Business Wire, the same service that distributed your original press release which libeled my clients. Your organization should be bear such costs in order to mitigate the damages that my client has suffered. My client demands that the press release stating your retraction also be posted to your website (aidshealth.org). It is noted that you have already removed your original press release from your website. For this we thank you; however, that is insufficient to make my client whole.? The mention of possible litigation follows.

The March 17 complaint sent by AHF to County Health is here.

The April 15 letter from County Health to AHF clearing Immoral Productions is here.

Michael Fattorosi?s May 21 retraction demand letter to AHF is here.

Jman · 05-22-2013, 10:49 AM

That's great news Dan

_Richard_ · 05-22-2013, 10:52 AM

"Michael Fattorosi?s May 21 retraction demand letter to AHF is here."

can we get a link to this? thanks

mikesouth · 05-22-2013, 11:16 AM

Congrats Dan...good job man
kudos to you and fattarosi

pornlaw · 05-22-2013, 11:25 AM

Here are the links to all important the letters... they are all PDFs.

Original AHF Complaint to LA County Health ->
http://business.avn.com/downloadfile...tmap_id=518187

County of LA Letter to AHF clearing Immoral of all charges ->
http://business.avn.com/downloadfile...tmap_id=518189

Letter to AHF demanding retraction ->
http://business.avn.com/downloadfile...tmap_id=518164

And thank you to Mike...

adendreams · 05-22-2013, 11:30 AM

This is going to be beautiful when they are forced to publish a retraction on their website.

mikesouth · 05-22-2013, 11:42 AM

The FSC would do well to learn from Fattarosi

waltgator · 05-22-2013, 06:28 PM

nice! good job!

fitzmulti · 05-22-2013, 10:29 PM

Great to hear! Congrats!

Socks · 05-22-2013, 10:34 PM

Very nice! I bet most customers would be surprised the lengths porn producers have to go to in order to shoot their films.

sandman! · 05-22-2013, 10:53 PM

Porno Dan · 05-24-2013, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jman

That's great news Dan

Thank you for the support

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikesouth

Congrats Dan...good job man
kudos to you and fattarosi

Thanks Mike, the main message I want to get across is while I may not like the new laws they are liveable

Quote:

Originally Posted by waltgator

nice! good job!

If we can abide my the rules anyone can learn to adapt and do the same

Quote:

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

Great to hear! Congrats!

Thank you Brad

DWB · 05-24-2013, 01:03 PM

Thumbs up. Dan stickin' it to the man.

LeRoy · 05-24-2013, 01:20 PM

Nice!!

Everything turned out ok

Redrob · 05-24-2013, 01:26 PM

Good news and congratulations. Show us how it is done.

AB332 is dead so, at least, we won't have a state law with the same restrictions at this time.

PornDiscounts-V · 05-24-2013, 01:32 PM

I love it when porn wins. Thanks for being a class act and making this win possible, Dan!

pornlaw · 05-24-2013, 02:12 PM

Redrob -- I wouldnt say AB 332 is dead. As I understand it - AB 332 is a 2 yr law. And there is still a state wide condom law - California Code of Regulation section 5193...

Lets not get too giddy just yet....

Rochard · 05-24-2013, 02:20 PM

Good news all around...

RyuLion · 05-24-2013, 02:25 PM

Good job primo!!!

amacontent · 05-24-2013, 06:17 PM

This sounds like a call to celebrate at ARTEMIS !!!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 05-24-2013, 06:31 PM

Porno Dan rides again...

Are most of the other LA studios shooting with condoms now?

ADG

GAMEFINEST · 05-24-2013, 06:55 PM

condom is no joke.

Porno Dan · 05-24-2013, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

Thumbs up. Dan stickin' it to the man.

Not sure I stuck it to the man.

More like I obeyed the law, got all my permits and use condoms

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy

Nice!!

Everything turned out ok

Thank you, so am I

Porno Dan · 05-25-2013, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornlaw

Redrob -- I wouldnt say AB 332 is dead. As I understand it - AB 332 is a 2 yr law. And there is still a state wide condom law - California Code of Regulation section 5193...

Lets not get too giddy just yet....

Mike is very correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard

Good news all around...

Thank, it was very good news for us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent

This sounds like a call to celebrate at ARTEMIS !!!

Jim and I were talking about Artemis the other day

Hope your Kings with the Cup

pornlaw · 05-26-2013, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Porno Dan

Quote:

Redrob -- I wouldnt say AB 332 is dead. As I understand it - AB 332 is a 2 yr law. And there is still a state wide condom law - California Code of Regulation section 5193...

Lets not get too giddy just yet....

Mike is very correct.

Now that it appears AB 332 is at least on hold, if not dead, we need to start discussing how to change CCR 5193 and how to do so fast.

For anyone that has a couple of mind-numbing hours to spare here is the text of the California law -

https://www.dir.ca.gov/title8/5193.html

This is the basis for all of AHF's attempts to impose their will. Its what Measure B was based on. It is what AB 332 was based on. And Im sure it is what their state-wide ballot Measure for condoms will be based on.

And if you think California is the only one with a bloodborne pathogens law - guess again

http://www.health.ny.gov/professiona...pdf/srgbbp.pdf

http://health.nv.gov/PDFs/HIV_STD_TB...OGENS_quiz.pdf

And here's the federal OSHA's handout on bloodborne pathogens

http://www.osha.gov/Publications/osha3186.pdf

Cali's bloodborne pathogen regs are federally approved by OSHA so any state can easily adopt them if they so choose.

And since Cal-OSHA has seen fit to apply to the regs to porn, any state's OSHA department can choose to do the same.

So again, if anyone thinks that moving out of California will help, guess again.

Does anyone think that AHF will just limit themselves to California ?

Redrob · 05-26-2013, 09:16 AM

AB332 was just a setback in AHF's continuing attack on the industry.

Agreed, we should make haste to get our house in order.

I just see a few more problems in doing so that raise some more interesting questions the industry will need to address as a whole.

Porno Dan · 05-27-2013, 02:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAMEFINEST

condom is no joke.

No, but we like I said if we have adjusted and gotten used to them so can everyone else

05-22-2013, 10:47 AM	#1
Porno Dan Court Jester Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: Budapest Posts: 6,342	Immoral Productions Cleared of Condom Violations by LA County Health LOS ANGELES?Two days following the announcement in March by AIDS Healthcare Foundation that it had filed a complaint with the Director of Public Health for the County of Los Angeles accusing Immoral Productions of, among other things, shooting scenes in the county without using condoms, the Health Department began an investigation into the allegations, Immoral Productions CEO ?Porno Dan? Leal told AVN today. The results of the investigation followed quickly: Immoral was cleared of any wrongdoing. It was clear vindication for a man who insists he has been working hard for years to become a responsible producer of hardcore content. ADVERTISEMENT AVN spoke Tuesday with Leal and his attorney, Michael Fattorosi, in an exclusive interview about the investigation, the results of which are only now being disclosed. Though Leal is clearly relieved that the potentially serious allegations AHF allegedly received from an anonymous source have been found to be baseless, he and Fattorosi remain troubled by the fact that AHF felt emboldened enough not only to file the complaint without having conducted any apparent due diligence, but also to follow up the filing with a press release and press conference before an investigation into the charges was even begun. In fact, Fattorosi has sent a letter to AHF (see below) demanding a retraction, with the caveat, ?Failure to publicly retract your statements may lead to litigation.? Leal told AVN, however, that he has no such complaints about the manner in which the Health Department inspectors conducted themselves during the inspection of his workplace. ?They could easily have come in and hassled us, but they didn?t,? he said. ?I have no complaint with them. They were courteous to us and utterly professional.? Leal was kind enough to answer the following questions from AVN: What were the original allegations by AHF? That we did not have an exposure control plan, we had not been through blood-borne pathogen training, we did not have proper signage and we did not shoot with condoms. How long after AHF filed their complaint did the Health Department conduct their investigation? They called us the next day and came to my studio the following day to do their on-site investigation. What were the results of the investigation? When did you first get them? Why have you delayed releasing the results? They found no wrongdoing and dismissed the charges. Quite frankly, I am very busy running my company and expanding our operations; that is why I delayed releasing the finding. How long did the investigation last? Do you have any details about the extent of the investigation? How many people did they interview, if any? Did they watch the video in question? They were at my studio for about an hour and a half. They took pictures of our signage, condoms we have available, my invoices from Stericycle (who handle our biohazard removal?used condoms), my Stericycle trash can, locked unit where we keep the trash can, red bio-hazard bags, latex gloves and pictures of our set and studio. They already had copies of my exposure control plan from when I went to apply for my health permit. The video in question was from 2011. Do you know if this investigation by the Health Department was a new endeavor for them, or whether it was routine? Aside from the results, do you have any issues with the way they conducted the investigation? This was their first investigation and I have no issues with the way they conducted themselves. I found them to very professional. Did you find out anything specific you did not previously know about the genesis of the original complaint, and who might have been the anonymous tipster? Yes, we were able to read the complaint which was sent to the AHF. I believe, based on the way it was worded, that it came from someone who works in the adult industry. Is there a lesson for producers or talent to learn from this first reporting episode in terms of preparing for a potential investigation by the Health Department? Make sure you apply for and have all your permits in order and that you shoot with condoms. Use someone like we use at Stericycle to help you get your exposure control plan in place. It is not a question of if you will get caught if you do not do these things, but when. Obviously, AHF submitted a false report of a violation to the Health Department? Do you believe they were incompetent in doing so, acted in good faith, or too quickly out of malice? Is there anything beyond speculation that you know regarding their motives? No comment. [See next question.] AHF not only submitted a report of a violation by Immoral, but held a press conference and disseminated the "news" to the world. How do you plan to respond to that, if at all? I?ll let my lawyer comment on that. Fattorosi commented: I cannot say what Mr. McGrath, Mr. Weinstein, or AHF's motives were for filing the complaint. I do believe that they acted with malice. That seems clear from their press release and the subsequent press conference. In my opinion, AHF targeted Immoral and Dan. Even the mainstream reporters covering the press conference sensed this and asked Weinstein why did he file a complaint against the one company that was complying with the law. I also find it interesting that AHF has now removed their libelous press release about Immoral Productions from their website. [As far as a "plan to respond," see Michael Fattorosi's May 21 letter below] What have you learned, if anything, from this episode? I learned you can't be proactive enough, and I am very thankful I have all of our permits, exposure control plan and signage in place. Leal also stressed to AVN that his commitment to being a responsible member of the adult entertainment industry, including taking an active involvement in the CalOSHA process for several years, is nothing new. In fact, Leal reminded AVN that he was previously inspected by CalOSHA regarding the disposal of condoms and passed the inspection with flying colors, and that he also was previously cited for filming without a film permit, which Fattorosi got dismissed by the court as well. Leal added that police officers who have stopped by his studio?less than a handful of times for periodic visits?have made clear to him that there is a task force already in place that is tasked with finding illegal porn shoots as well as any other productions that do not have the requisite permits. The LAPD task force, he said, is comprised of six officers who travel around the city making sure that all film shoots, including porn shoots, have the right FilmLA permits. ?If you?re shooting without condoms in L.A.,? he warned, ?you?re going to get caught.? In the end, the larger message for Leal seems to be that if this can happen to a producer who is also well-known to everyone involved?AHF, LAPD, County Health and CalOSHA?it can happen to anyone. ?Complying with this law is not something I ever wanted to do,? he told AVN, ?but the sad reality is that the nature of my business and my high profile in the industry puts a target on me, and I accept that. All these investigations do is make my company stronger. This did not hurt my business at all; in fact, my business has grown during this time period. ?And we?re shooting live,? he added. ?During our live shows, people will ask me, why are you shooting with condoms, and I reply to them right away, it?s the law. But even more amazing is that other members in the chat will also jump up to defend our decision to shoot with condoms.? He added that as a performer he also now shoots with condoms and that even though it was not easy to perform with them at first, he quickly got used to them. He said the same goes for his hired performers, who also have had to adjust, but he said they are all acclimating to the new requirement just fine. Fattorosi's letter to AHF on behalf of Immoral, which he sent today, May 21, notes that the organization was informed by the Department of Health in a letter dated April 15, 2013 that its complaint was ?not substantiated? and that the ?investigation was closed,? and no further action would be taken. (Both letters are available below.] ?We now demand," the letter continued, "that AIDS Healthcare Foundation publish a retraction to their libelous press release dated March 19, 2013... Your retraction should be distributed via Business Wire, the same service that distributed your original press release which libeled my clients. Your organization should be bear such costs in order to mitigate the damages that my client has suffered. My client demands that the press release stating your retraction also be posted to your website (aidshealth.org). It is noted that you have already removed your original press release from your website. For this we thank you; however, that is insufficient to make my client whole.? The mention of possible litigation follows. The March 17 complaint sent by AHF to County Health is here. The April 15 letter from County Health to AHF clearing Immoral Productions is here. Michael Fattorosi?s May 21 retraction demand letter to AHF is here. __________________ Reality TV Star, AVN Hall of Fame, Five-Time XBIZ Winner 2021 XBIZ Europe Winner Best Director Site Promote the sites where members get paid to get laid by their favorite porn stars

05-22-2013, 10:49 AM	#2
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05-22-2013, 11:25 AM	#5
pornlaw Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,851	Here are the links to all important the letters... they are all PDFs. Original AHF Complaint to LA County Health -> http://business.avn.com/downloadfile...tmap_id=518187 County of LA Letter to AHF clearing Immoral of all charges -> http://business.avn.com/downloadfile...tmap_id=518189 Letter to AHF demanding retraction -> http://business.avn.com/downloadfile...tmap_id=518164 And thank you to Mike... __________________ Michael www.AdultBizLaw.com Last edited by pornlaw; 05-22-2013 at 11:26 AM..

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05-24-2013, 02:12 PM	#17
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Redrob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In a refrigerator box by the tracks. Posts: 4,790	AB332 was just a setback in AHF's continuing attack on the industry. Agreed, we should make haste to get our house in order. I just see a few more problems in doing so that raise some more interesting questions the industry will need to address as a whole.