Is It Acceptable To You That Your Tap Water Contains Fluoride?

[BFT3K]

Just a quick poll.

[_Richard_]

vancouver scrapped it in the 60s..

however my dentist is convinced we still have it, and that's why i 'have no cavities'

personally i thought it was brushing twice a day, but whatever

[deltav]

In my city it just came up for vote last week - we voted fluoride down for the 4th time in 50 years.

I'm against it. Not for the health paranoia around it, as I have yet to see any convincing scientific studies saying it's harmful though there are plenty of unsubstantiated claims (I'm sure Wehateporn will go off on this). For me it's a policy issue - I think the public water supply should be used to deliver water, not chemicals intended to address a completely unrelated public health issue.

If there is a dental health crisis in a given location, there are more effective ways to mitigate it than fluoride in the water. Also in the 1950s when cities starting doing so, it was before fluoride toothpaste and other treatments were widely used - now nearly anyone gets plenty if they brush 2x/day as directed.

[edgeprod]

All of my houses have wells.

[BlackCrayon]

fluoride occurs naturally in water. it can be very high in ground wells in certain rocky areas. i don't see the need to add it to municipal or bottled water though. that needs to stop.

[2012]

the part where the pipe from the toxic fluoride corroded tank to the water supply

[Pornopat]

Originally Posted by deltav

In my city it just came up for vote last week - we voted fluoride down for the 4th time in 50 years.

I'm against it. Not for the health paranoia around it, as I have yet to see any convincing scientific studies saying it's harmful though there are plenty of unsubstantiated claims (I'm sure Wehateporn will go off on this). For me it's a policy issue - I think the public water supply should be used to deliver water, not chemicals intended to address a completely unrelated public health issue.

If there is a dental health crisis in a given location, there are more effective ways to mitigate it than fluoride in the water. Also in the 1950s when cities starting doing so, it was before fluoride toothpaste and other treatments were widely used - now nearly anyone gets plenty if they brush 2x/day as directed.

I dont understand your reasoning. Do you see any reason how it could be harmfull or something?

[dyna mo]

yes, it is acceptable to me that my water contains flouride.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

I dont understand your reasoning. Do you see any reason how it could be harmfull or something?

go a quick google search, there is a lot of articles about it. regardless, like deltav said if someone wants fluoride it should be up to them to use it for themseves, their family. not force it on an entire population.

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by Pornopat

I dont understand your reasoning. Do you see any reason how it could be harmfull or something?

costs a lot

but big business setting up 'epidemics' to cash in, is wild conspiracy theory..

unless it's applicable.

[mrgica]

You forgot to put on your foil cap because I just read you mind

[Best-In-BC]

I vote for ridalin j/k

[mrgica]

Education is da king!

Edit: Better to ask why, if you want to learn.

[ottopottomouse]

Got bleach in too but you don't seem to get nutters moaning about that.

[shake]

It seems the people concerned about the possible health effects of fluoride don't really think of the benefits. Fluoride is VERY effective in fighting tooth decay, which is more important than just for your teeth, tooth decay over time can cause your liver to stop working which means you get a transplant or die. It is quite cheap to add to city water, and reach almost everyone in a city.

That being said, most people in western countries brush their teeth, see a dentist and all that stuff. Fluoride doesn't need to be swallowed, it can do it's job just as well in tooth paste or mouthwash, or even just add a small pill to water and rinse with that. Also it is almost impossible to filter fluoride out of your water if you don't want it, and it kind of sucks to be medicated with something and have little choice in the matter, no matter how safe it is.

Personally I think it should be used in the water in poor countries / areas, and phased out as most people can afford dental care. Overall I think the rewards are greater than the risks, but for most westerners, there is no need to be drinking it.

[onwebcam]

Originally Posted by Best-In-BC

I vote for ridalin j/k

Pharmaceuticals lurking in U.S. drinking water
AP probe found traces of meds in water supplies of 41 million Americans

A vast array of pharmaceuticals — including antibiotics, anti-convulsants, mood stabilizers and sex hormones — have been found in the drinking water supplies of at least 41 million Americans, an Associated Press investigation shows.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23503485/n...rinking-water/

[dyna mo]

we absorb more flouride showering than brushing teeth. why waste it in the shower.

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by _Richard_

vancouver scrapped it in the 60s..

however my dentist is convinced we still have it, and that's why i 'have no cavities'

personally i thought it was brushing twice a day, but whatever

I think genetics has more to do with it.

[baryl]

Why stop at that? Why don't you demand that your water not be cleaned and treated. Just drink that tasty untreated poop water.

[BlackCrayon]

Originally Posted by baryl

Why stop at that? Why don't you demand that your water not be cleaned and treated. Just drink that tasty untreated poop water.

making water safe to drink has absolutely nothing at all to do with adding stuff like fluoride. making water safe to drink is necessary, adding fluoride is not. pretty simple.

[BFT3K]

Fluoride is meant to kill bacteria in your mouth, and then you're supposed to spit it out...



It was never meant to be consumed.

If it was not in your water, would you add it to your coffee, or your soup, or whatever else you use tap water for?

Fluoride should not be in your water.

[dyna mo]

you swallow your toothpaste?

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Fluoride is meant to kill bacteria in your mouth, and then you're supposed to spit it out...



It was never meant to be consumed.

If it was not in your water, would you add it to your coffee, or your soup, or whatever else you use tap water for?

Fluoride should not be in your water.

[candyflip]

Originally Posted by edgeprod

All of my houses have wells.

In Florida, this has to be disgusting. Even the public water supply smells like shit.

That's the only thing I don't miss about Florida.

[mrgica]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Fluoride is meant to kill bacteria in your mouth, and then you're supposed to spit it out...



It was never meant to be consumed.

If it was not in your water, would you add it to your coffee, or your soup, or whatever else you use tap water for?

Fluoride should not be in your water.

What is the damage? Is there any scientific studies from anywhere in the world?

[Si]

You consume fluoride every single day. It is naturally occuring.

People need to start using the proper terms in regard to this debate. It is not simply "fluoride".

[wehateporn]

The Fluoride in the water supply is toxic waste, if it's in your water supply I suggest you relocate

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

The Fluoride in the water supply is toxic waste, if it's in your water supply I suggest you relocate

dude. it's like evian compared to the shit i just had cleaned off the outside of my windows.

let's all concern ourselves with the more pressing pollution issues.

[wehateporn]

[wehateporn]

[wehateporn]

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Dr. Dean Burk .... paper was not well received by the majority of scientists at the time and the paper?s methodology was criticized, such as for failure to adjust for important variables. Numerous subsequent scientific studies from the US, Ireland, Taiwan, Wales, Australia, and New Zealand, including a review of over 50 published studies contradicted Burk?s conclusion and found no evidence to support such an outrageous claim. The CDC has since been quoted saying,

at this time, the weight of the scientific evidence, as assessed by independent committees of experts, comprehensive systematic reviews, and review of the findings of individual studies does not support an association between water fluoridated at levels optimal for oral health and the risk for cancer, including osteosarcoma.

The American Cancer Society has also gone on record stating, ?Scientific studies show no connection between cancer rates in humans and adding fluoride to drinking water.? But rather than listen to the scientific community, fluoridation opponents prefer to stay in their echo-chamber with select fringe ?experts? where they can build their conspiratorial narratives.

Anti-fluoridation activists love to cite Dr. Burk, who has gone so far as to say that ?fluoridation is a form of public mass murder.?

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

1. Fluoride in water helps to prevent and can even reverse tooth decay.
2. More than 60 percent of the U.S. population has access to fluoridated water through public water supply systems.
3. The optimal level of fluoride to prevent tooth decay is 0.7 milligrams per liter of water.
4. Many studies, in both humans and animals, have shown no association between fluoridated water and cancer risk.

FACT Sheet by the same organisation...

More FACTS here.....

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...oridated-water

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by dyna mo

Dr. Dean Burk .... paper was not well received by the majority of scientists at the time and the paper’s methodology was criticized, such as for failure to adjust for important variables. Numerous subsequent scientific studies from the US, Ireland, Taiwan, Wales, Australia, and New Zealand, including a review of over 50 published studies contradicted Burk’s conclusion and found no evidence to support such an outrageous claim. The CDC has since been quoted saying,

at this time, the weight of the scientific evidence, as assessed by independent committees of experts, comprehensive systematic reviews, and review of the findings of individual studies does not support an association between water fluoridated at levels optimal for oral health and the risk for cancer, including osteosarcoma.

The American Cancer Society has also gone on record stating, “Scientific studies show no connection between cancer rates in humans and adding fluoride to drinking water.” But rather than listen to the scientific community, fluoridation opponents prefer to stay in their echo-chamber with select fringe “experts” where they can build their conspiratorial narratives.

Anti-fluoridation activists love to cite Dr. Burk, who has gone so far as to say that “fluoridation is a form of public mass murder.”

Be careful when trusting foxes to guard the hen-house

[StickyGreen]

lol who voted yes? That shit is sad...

[deltav]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

Be careful when trusting foxes to guard the hen-house

Blah blah blah blah....

[wehateporn]

For those who are interested in learning more, here's an informative documentary

[mrgica]

Originally Posted by wehateporn

This is exactly whats wrong with some peoples thinking.
How many doctors believed/concluded all kinds of bullshit for the past 100 years, just to be proved wrong by the modern science? Why don't you say when he said that???? Was it 60's?

I can guarantee that statement is older than 40-50 years, at least!

[xNetworx]

I can haz floor ride?

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

FACT Sheet by the same organisation...

More FACTS here.....

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/f...oridated-water

Cancer is an industry, an industry which profits from the Cancer caused by Fluoride, don't go to them for advice

[wehateporn]

Originally Posted by mrgica

This is exactly whats wrong with some peoples thinking.
How many doctors believed/concluded all kinds of bullshit for the past 100 years, just to be proved wrong by the modern science? Why don't you say when he said that???? Was it 60's?

Follow the money

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by StickyGreen

lol who voted yes? That shit is sad...

i voted yes.

i grew up drinking out of the fucking water hose. the last thing i concern myself today with is absorbing tap water.

[BlackCrayon]

i grew up drinking well water up until 20 years of age when i moved out of my parents place. i had zero cavities in all this time. however within 4 years of moving out and drinking fluoridated city water, i had six. fluoride in the water did nothing for me.

[EddyTheDog]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

i grew up drinking well water up until 20 years of age when i moved out of my parents place. i had zero cavities in all this time. however within 4 years of moving out and drinking fluoridated city water, i had six. fluoride in the water did nothing for me.

Maybe you would have had 7...

Are you saying that Fluoride caused your cavities or just failed to protect you?

[Sly]

Fact: The Rothschilds funded the founding and further study of fluoride. They then pushed for fluoride to be put in the water of all poor areas. This helped them control the poor. It then slowly spread to cover all city-based drinking water. They did not anticipate that, but were happy that it did.

[AsianDivaGirlsWebDude]

ADG

[deltav]

Originally Posted by Sly

Fact: The Rothschilds funded the founding and further study of fluoride. They then pushed for fluoride to be put in the water of all poor areas. This helped them control the poor.

How exactly does fluoride "help them control the poor", pray tell? And I know "The Rothschilds" are a favorite Illuminati bogeyman of the David Icke brigade.

I'm against putting it in the water as a public policy issue (just voted against it locally), but some of you nutters spend too much time rotting your brain on conspiracy forums when your time would be better spent actually educating yourselves about science, politics, etc.

[mrgica]

Originally Posted by Sly

Fact: The Rothschilds funded the founding and further study of fluoride. They then pushed for fluoride to be put in the water of all poor areas. This helped them control the poor. It then slowly spread to cover all city-based drinking water. They did not anticipate that, but were happy that it did.

Shit
When was that? (just for fun, I know there is no answer)
The sad part is that you probably believe Im clueless and you know some secret shit.
You are adult webmaster right? And yet you buy all bullshit you read and view, from other sellers?

Edit: You are doomsday "surfer" lol... sorry man but you need to wake up.

[slapass]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...r_fluoridation

[_Richard_]

Originally Posted by deltav

Blah blah blah blah....

you know what would have happened if we tried a fluoride thread a year ago?

How much would fluoride cost your community if they went ahead with it? who would make money from it?

I see you're good with the mob mentality, what about discussion?

[Sly]