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Dankasaur · 06-12-2013, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

Easy to say when you're not a content owner that has his property stolen and given away on a daily basis.

Businesses have been decimated by these thieves.

Right, because only content owners get their stuff stolen.

PornMD · 06-12-2013, 08:23 AM

Tubes stealing your shit is here to stay. Piracy is here to stay. It's impossible to stop at this point. The sooner you realize it and do what you can to work around it to earn what you can, the better. There is a significantly higher percentage of people that feel no need to pay for porn than there's ever been - get used to it and focus on the people that will pay for it. Or make your own tube and scrum for ad revenue.

OneHungLo · 06-12-2013, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur

Right, because only content owners get their stuff stolen.

I highly doubt you've lost millions.

Dankasaur · 06-12-2013, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo

I highly doubt you've lost millions.

I highly doubt you have either.

jack-exploitedbabysitters · 06-12-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur

I highly doubt you have either.

hahah that is the exploitedteens guy i bet he has lost some change due to piracy for sure

edgeprod · 06-12-2013, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jack-exploitedbabysitters

hahah that is the exploitedteens guy i bet he has lost some change due to piracy for sure

OneHungLo is the exploitedteens guy?

topnotch, standup guy · 06-13-2013, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PornMD

Tubes stealing your shit is here to stay. Piracy is here to stay. It's impossible to stop at this point. The sooner you realize it and do what you can to work around it to earn what you can, the better. There is a significantly higher percentage of people that feel no need to pay for porn than there's ever been - get used to it and focus on the people that will pay for it. Or make your own tube and scrum for ad revenue.

That there's more freeloaders around now than there's ever been is precisely because of the tubes.

Duh.

This ain't exactly rocket science you know.

The OP was spot-on.
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topnotch, standup guy · 06-13-2013, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

you paying for content removal services?

Have you tried countering with your own uploaded videos? 10 minutes etc?

Fuck that shit.

Your first idea doesn't work. It's called whac-a-mole for a reason.

The second suggestion only further cheapens a producers content.
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OneHungLo · 06-13-2013, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur

I highly doubt you have either.

I've lost some and gained some

nikki99 · 06-13-2013, 08:32 AM

one of the biggest pirates I think is residence is in Germany, how u get someone to shoot him in Germany? u will need to hire Nikita

Sarah_Jayne · 06-13-2013, 08:38 AM

We don't have enough turf murders in this industry anymore.

PhoneSexKing · 06-13-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne

We don't have enough turf murders in this industry anymore.

Adult is too mainstream now. Time to get into a new taboo...

brassmonkey · 06-13-2013, 11:23 AM

if its a public upload tube how can you be sure its the owner?

dgraves · 06-13-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if its a public upload tube how can you be sure its the owner?

That's exactly the owner's goal. Their entire business model is built on stealing content and displaying it on their site to sell ad spots. The "it wasn't me" and "I can't control what other people upload" responses are total BS.

Why are we held responsible for the contents of our pockets, vehicles, homes, etc. but they aren't responsible for what's on their server? It's a business model based on theft and a loop hole and when that hole is plugged they'll be fucked. At that point they will be sucking up to the sponsors to be affiliates, the way the system is suppose to work.

brassmonkey · 06-13-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves

That's exactly the owner's goal. Their entire business model is built on stealing content and displaying it on their site to sell ad spots. The "it wasn't me" and "I can't control what other people upload" responses are total BS.

Why are we held responsible for the contents of our pockets, vehicles, homes, etc. but they aren't responsible for what's on their server? It's a business model based on theft and a loop hole and when that hole is plugged they'll be fucked. At that point they will be sucking up to the sponsors to be affiliates, the way the system is suppose to work.

man im not going to school you on the pirates do your homework. your clueless on internet crime

BFT3K · 06-13-2013, 01:52 PM

Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....

brassmonkey · 06-13-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....

bull shit

they have things called links and watermarks

no way media will die unless we're all dead. if you had flv id push your girls

PR_Glen · 06-13-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....

and kill the business 5x faster genius.

BFT3K · 06-13-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

bull shit

they have things called links and watermarks

no way media will die unless we're all dead. if you had flv id push your girls

Every time I send out a take-down notice it is specifically because they are using my content without my watermark, and without a return link back to me.

BFT3K · 06-13-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

and kill the business 5x faster genius.

Because people search for porn, for the ads? I don't think so.

lezinterracial · 06-13-2013, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoneSexKing

Adult is too mainstream now. Time to get into a new taboo...

What is their that is taboo anymore? Christianity?

PillWealth · 06-13-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jack-exploitedbabysitters

No bullshiting i think the only way to stop tube theft is sadly a guy loses it and shoots up a couple tube owners at a convention. Court system won't work but i bet violence will.

Did you pay for every song on your ipod? I hope so...

brassmonkey · 06-13-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Every time I send out a take-down notice it is specifically because they are using my content without my watermark, and without a return link back to me.

you ever thought it was the pirates?

Dankasaur · 06-13-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves

That's exactly the owner's goal. Their entire business model is built on stealing content and displaying it on their site to sell ad spots. The "it wasn't me" and "I can't control what other people upload" responses are total BS.

Why are we held responsible for the contents of our pockets, vehicles, homes, etc. but they aren't responsible for what's on their server? It's a business model based on theft and a loop hole and when that hole is plugged they'll be fucked. At that point they will be sucking up to the sponsors to be affiliates, the way the system is suppose to work.

Yeah, good luck getting that "loop hole plugged" because Google widely relies on it, therefore they will make sure it's not changed.

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....

DWB · 06-13-2013, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_Jayne

We don't have enough turf murders in this industry anymore.

Yep. Need to whack a few of these busters to keep them in line. Old school shit.

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Originally Posted by PhoneSexKing

Adult is too mainstream now. Time to get into a new taboo...

That's why I got into human trafficking. Adult is just too mainstream these days.

dgraves · 06-13-2013, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

man im not going to school you on the pirates do your homework. your clueless on internet crime

If you're such an expert on internet crime then why would you ask this stupid question?

"if its a public upload tube how can you be sure its the owner?"

Don't you think tube owners have a way of uploading stolen content without implicating themselves? That's Content Theft 101 and their only protection under DMCA.

Wizzo · 06-13-2013, 02:47 PM

It won't stop it, it will just send someone to jail for awhile and stop tube owners from going to shows which many don't go now.

dgraves · 06-13-2013, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur

Yeah, good luck getting that "loop hole plugged" because Google widely relies on it, therefore they will make sure it's not changed.

They will eventually do it to themselves, it's just a matter of time.

Youtube actively monitors uploaded content and do a pretty good job of it unlike adult tube owners. Try to upload adult content to Youtube and see how long it stays up. They would suspend the account of anyone doing that yet you can send an adult tube countless DMCA's and they would still allow the "uploader" to continue without so much as a warning.

Try to upload a non-adult related video to an adult tube and see how long that stays up if it even gets posted in the first place.

The system is a joke. Can you imagine if that's how the rest of society dealt with theft? Imagine a world where there was no punishment for theft and if you get caught stealing you just have to give the product back.

Dankasaur · 06-13-2013, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dgraves

They will eventually do it to themselves, it's just a matter of time.

Youtube actively monitors uploaded content and do a pretty good job of it unlike adult tube owners. Try to upload adult content to Youtube and see how long it stays up. They would suspend the account of anyone doing that yet you can send an adult tube countless DMCA's and they would still allow the "uploader" to continue without so much as a warning.

Try to upload a non-adult related video to an adult tube and see how long that stays up if it even gets posted in the first place.

The system is a joke. Can you imagine if that's how the rest of society dealt with theft? Imagine a world where there was no punishment for theft and if you get caught stealing you just have to give the product back.

I'll just leave this here:

https://youtube.com/results?searc...vies&oq=&gs_l=

Fucking myself · 06-13-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur

Yeah because a multi-million dollar business is just gonna be like "well fuck, Tom is dead, time to close up shop."

signupdamnit · 06-13-2013, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur

I'll just leave this here:

https://youtube.com/results?searc...vies&oq=&gs_l=

The first couple pages seem to be mostly movies from the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s as well as stuff like "The Obama Deception".

Now try to find the full length movie for the newest Star Trek or Superman on Youtube. See what you find.

Dankasaur · 06-13-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

The first couple pages seem to be mostly movies from the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s as well as stuff like "The Obama Deception".

Now try to find the full length movie for the newest Star Trek or Superman on Youtube. See what you find.

Does it matter? Most of those movies are pirated... I was proving him wrong. Point proven.

Jel · 06-13-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PillWealth

Did you pay for every song on your ipod? I hope so...

apples and oranges. A more relevant question would be: have you got a site that shares all itunes, free, but will remove them if dmca'd. Or: do you have a site that profits from others' content without their permission, but will remove if dmca'd.

_Richard_ · 06-13-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

Fuck that shit.

Your first idea doesn't work. It's called whac-a-mole for a reason.

The second suggestion only further cheapens a producers content.
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i know it doesn't work, why i was asking

the second suggestion cheapens a producers content?

isn't that the same argument when the MGPs came about?

digitaldivas · 06-13-2013, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7

Thread forwarded to tube owners

Bryan G · 06-13-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

Because people search for porn, for the ads? I don't think so.

Are you really that stupid?

topnotch, standup guy · 06-13-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

i know it doesn't work, why i was asking

the second suggestion cheapens a producers content?

isn't that the same argument when the MGPs came about?

MGP's didn't give away the whole enchilada. HUGE difference.
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topnotch, standup guy · 06-13-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Wizzo

It won't stop it, it will just send someone to jail for awhile and stop tube owners from going to shows which many don't go now.

Yeah, but it would make for one less fucking tube owner out there.. and you can't tell me that would be a bad thing.
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PhoneSexKing · 06-13-2013, 06:33 PM

I have the solution.

We buy hosting at the same hosts that they are at. Then we DoS them from the inside. Most hosts only monitor traffic at the edge routers. lol

Biggy2 · 06-13-2013, 06:52 PM

Send your DMCAs on paper via snail mail, not sure what office or home is specifically theres? send it to everyone on the block, and send a really nice cover letter to go with it. you want to make sure they properly receive it.

send it to their home, send it to their office address, not sure which one is theres, send it to every house on the block addressed to the right person with a cover letter outlining the site, the porno they stole, so on and so forth, and keep sending it over and over again until you feel they are complying with your content removal.

note: this is just a suggestion.

The Porn Nerd · 06-13-2013, 07:24 PM

Suggesting violence is a GFY no-no, yes?

fuzebox · 06-13-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur

I'll just leave this here:

https://youtube.com/results?searc...vies&oq=&gs_l=

Great, now I'm stuck watching Super Mario Bros: The Movie all day.

Dankasaur · 06-13-2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Great, now I'm stuck watching Super Mario Bros: The Movie all day.

That is an awesome movie.

PornMD · 06-13-2013, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by topnotch, standup guy

That there's more freeloaders around now than there's ever been is precisely because of the tubes.

Duh.

This ain't exactly rocket science you know.

The OP was spot-on.
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So you really think a tube site owner or two getting murdered would stop it? Has murder ever stopped anything done on a massive scale? Get real. There could be some worldwide tube site taskforce assembled to murder tube site owners the world over and it still wouldn't stop shit. Getting anything digital for free is the new dominant culture. It's a shitty thieving culture but it is what it is. Look at the size of the mainstream companies trying to stop piracy that haven't been able to. No one in adult could even come close to those efforts.

OneHungLo · 06-13-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2

Send your DMCAs on paper via snail mail, not sure what office or home is specifically theres? send it to everyone on the block, and send a really nice cover letter to go with it. you want to make sure they properly receive it.

send it to their home, send it to their office address, not sure which one is theres, send it to every house on the block addressed to the right person with a cover letter outlining the site, the porno they stole, so on and so forth, and keep sending it over and over again until you feel they are complying with your content removal.

note: this is just a suggestion.

topnotch, standup guy · 06-14-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody

Suggesting violence is a GFY no-no, yes?

Since when has stepping on cockroaches been equated with violence?
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geirlur · 06-14-2013, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox

Great, now I'm stuck watching Super Mario Bros: The Movie all day.

Just watch this instead

http://cinemassacre.com/2013/05/28/s...-movie-review/

PillWealth · 06-14-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggy2

Send your DMCAs on paper via snail mail, not sure what office or home is specifically theres? send it to everyone on the block, and send a really nice cover letter to go with it. you want to make sure they properly receive it.

send it to their home, send it to their office address, not sure which one is theres, send it to every house on the block addressed to the right person with a cover letter outlining the site, the porno they stole, so on and so forth, and keep sending it over and over again until you feel they are complying with your content removal.

note: this is just a suggestion.

Good Idea!

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