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Old 06-12-2013, 08:08 AM   #51
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Easy to say when you're not a content owner that has his property stolen and given away on a daily basis.

Businesses have been decimated by these thieves.
Right, because only content owners get their stuff stolen.
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Old 06-12-2013, 08:23 AM   #52
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Tubes stealing your shit is here to stay. Piracy is here to stay. It's impossible to stop at this point. The sooner you realize it and do what you can to work around it to earn what you can, the better. There is a significantly higher percentage of people that feel no need to pay for porn than there's ever been - get used to it and focus on the people that will pay for it. Or make your own tube and scrum for ad revenue.
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Right, because only content owners get their stuff stolen.
I highly doubt you've lost millions.
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Old 06-12-2013, 03:02 PM   #54
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I highly doubt you've lost millions.
I highly doubt you have either.
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Old 06-12-2013, 04:18 PM   #55
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I highly doubt you have either.
hahah that is the exploitedteens guy i bet he has lost some change due to piracy for sure
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Old 06-12-2013, 07:20 PM   #56
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hahah that is the exploitedteens guy i bet he has lost some change due to piracy for sure
OneHungLo is the exploitedteens guy?
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Tubes stealing your shit is here to stay. Piracy is here to stay. It's impossible to stop at this point. The sooner you realize it and do what you can to work around it to earn what you can, the better. There is a significantly higher percentage of people that feel no need to pay for porn than there's ever been - get used to it and focus on the people that will pay for it. Or make your own tube and scrum for ad revenue.
That there's more freeloaders around now than there's ever been is precisely because of the tubes.

Duh.

This ain't exactly rocket science you know.

The OP was spot-on.
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you paying for content removal services?

Have you tried countering with your own uploaded videos? 10 minutes etc?

Fuck that shit.

Your first idea doesn't work. It's called whac-a-mole for a reason.

The second suggestion only further cheapens a producers content.
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I highly doubt you have either.
I've lost some and gained some
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one of the biggest pirates I think is residence is in Germany, how u get someone to shoot him in Germany? u will need to hire Nikita
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We don't have enough turf murders in this industry anymore.
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Adult is too mainstream now. Time to get into a new taboo...
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if its a public upload tube how can you be sure its the owner?
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if its a public upload tube how can you be sure its the owner?
That's exactly the owner's goal. Their entire business model is built on stealing content and displaying it on their site to sell ad spots. The "it wasn't me" and "I can't control what other people upload" responses are total BS.

Why are we held responsible for the contents of our pockets, vehicles, homes, etc. but they aren't responsible for what's on their server? It's a business model based on theft and a loop hole and when that hole is plugged they'll be fucked. At that point they will be sucking up to the sponsors to be affiliates, the way the system is suppose to work.
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That's exactly the owner's goal. Their entire business model is built on stealing content and displaying it on their site to sell ad spots. The "it wasn't me" and "I can't control what other people upload" responses are total BS.

Why are we held responsible for the contents of our pockets, vehicles, homes, etc. but they aren't responsible for what's on their server? It's a business model based on theft and a loop hole and when that hole is plugged they'll be fucked. At that point they will be sucking up to the sponsors to be affiliates, the way the system is suppose to work.
man im not going to school you on the pirates do your homework. your clueless on internet crime
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Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....
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bull shit they have things called links and watermarks no way media will die unless we're all dead. if you had flv id push your girls
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Ad blockers will kill off the tubes. It's just a matter of time....
and kill the business 5x faster genius.
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bull shit they have things called links and watermarks no way media will die unless we're all dead. if you had flv id push your girls
Every time I send out a take-down notice it is specifically because they are using my content without my watermark, and without a return link back to me.
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Because people search for porn, for the ads? I don't think so.
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No bullshiting i think the only way to stop tube theft is sadly a guy loses it and shoots up a couple tube owners at a convention. Court system won't work but i bet violence will.
Did you pay for every song on your ipod? I hope so...
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you ever thought it was the pirates?
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That's exactly the owner's goal. Their entire business model is built on stealing content and displaying it on their site to sell ad spots. The "it wasn't me" and "I can't control what other people upload" responses are total BS.

Why are we held responsible for the contents of our pockets, vehicles, homes, etc. but they aren't responsible for what's on their server? It's a business model based on theft and a loop hole and when that hole is plugged they'll be fucked. At that point they will be sucking up to the sponsors to be affiliates, the way the system is suppose to work.
Yeah, good luck getting that "loop hole plugged" because Google widely relies on it, therefore they will make sure it's not changed.

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Yep. Need to whack a few of these busters to keep them in line. Old school shit.

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That's why I got into human trafficking. Adult is just too mainstream these days.
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man im not going to school you on the pirates do your homework. your clueless on internet crime
If you're such an expert on internet crime then why would you ask this stupid question?

"if its a public upload tube how can you be sure its the owner?"

Don't you think tube owners have a way of uploading stolen content without implicating themselves? That's Content Theft 101 and their only protection under DMCA.
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It won't stop it, it will just send someone to jail for awhile and stop tube owners from going to shows which many don't go now.
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Yeah, good luck getting that "loop hole plugged" because Google widely relies on it, therefore they will make sure it's not changed.
They will eventually do it to themselves, it's just a matter of time.

Youtube actively monitors uploaded content and do a pretty good job of it unlike adult tube owners. Try to upload adult content to Youtube and see how long it stays up. They would suspend the account of anyone doing that yet you can send an adult tube countless DMCA's and they would still allow the "uploader" to continue without so much as a warning.

Try to upload a non-adult related video to an adult tube and see how long that stays up if it even gets posted in the first place.

The system is a joke. Can you imagine if that's how the rest of society dealt with theft? Imagine a world where there was no punishment for theft and if you get caught stealing you just have to give the product back.
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They will eventually do it to themselves, it's just a matter of time.

Youtube actively monitors uploaded content and do a pretty good job of it unlike adult tube owners. Try to upload adult content to Youtube and see how long it stays up. They would suspend the account of anyone doing that yet you can send an adult tube countless DMCA's and they would still allow the "uploader" to continue without so much as a warning.

Try to upload a non-adult related video to an adult tube and see how long that stays up if it even gets posted in the first place.

The system is a joke. Can you imagine if that's how the rest of society dealt with theft? Imagine a world where there was no punishment for theft and if you get caught stealing you just have to give the product back.
I'll just leave this here:

https://youtube.com/results?searc...vies&oq=&gs_l=

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The first couple pages seem to be mostly movies from the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s as well as stuff like "The Obama Deception".

Now try to find the full length movie for the newest Star Trek or Superman on Youtube. See what you find.
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The first couple pages seem to be mostly movies from the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s as well as stuff like "The Obama Deception".

Now try to find the full length movie for the newest Star Trek or Superman on Youtube. See what you find.
Does it matter? Most of those movies are pirated... I was proving him wrong. Point proven.
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apples and oranges. A more relevant question would be: have you got a site that shares all itunes, free, but will remove them if dmca'd. Or: do you have a site that profits from others' content without their permission, but will remove if dmca'd.
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Fuck that shit.

Your first idea doesn't work. It's called whac-a-mole for a reason.

The second suggestion only further cheapens a producers content.
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i know it doesn't work, why i was asking

the second suggestion cheapens a producers content?

isn't that the same argument when the MGPs came about?
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Because people search for porn, for the ads? I don't think so.
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i know it doesn't work, why i was asking

the second suggestion cheapens a producers content?

isn't that the same argument when the MGPs came about?
MGP's didn't give away the whole enchilada. HUGE difference.
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It won't stop it, it will just send someone to jail for awhile and stop tube owners from going to shows which many don't go now.
Yeah, but it would make for one less fucking tube owner out there.. and you can't tell me that would be a bad thing.
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I have the solution.

We buy hosting at the same hosts that they are at. Then we DoS them from the inside. Most hosts only monitor traffic at the edge routers. lol
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Send your DMCAs on paper via snail mail, not sure what office or home is specifically theres? send it to everyone on the block, and send a really nice cover letter to go with it. you want to make sure they properly receive it.

send it to their home, send it to their office address, not sure which one is theres, send it to every house on the block addressed to the right person with a cover letter outlining the site, the porno they stole, so on and so forth, and keep sending it over and over again until you feel they are complying with your content removal.

note: this is just a suggestion.

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That is an awesome movie.
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That there's more freeloaders around now than there's ever been is precisely because of the tubes.

Duh.

This ain't exactly rocket science you know.

The OP was spot-on.
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So you really think a tube site owner or two getting murdered would stop it? Has murder ever stopped anything done on a massive scale? Get real. There could be some worldwide tube site taskforce assembled to murder tube site owners the world over and it still wouldn't stop shit. Getting anything digital for free is the new dominant culture. It's a shitty thieving culture but it is what it is. Look at the size of the mainstream companies trying to stop piracy that haven't been able to. No one in adult could even come close to those efforts.
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Send your DMCAs on paper via snail mail, not sure what office or home is specifically theres? send it to everyone on the block, and send a really nice cover letter to go with it. you want to make sure they properly receive it.

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