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Old 06-26-2013, 03:54 PM   #51
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The dictionary changes/modifies the definitions of hundreds if not thousands of words every year.

The dictionary definition and the legal definition are two different things.
the AP had declared that the phrase 'illegal alien' can no longer be use in AP stories, the phrase 'undocumented worked' must be substituted. this is effect redefines illegal aliens, as not law breakers, but a few guys that haven't filled out the correct paperwork... that my friend is in effect is working to change established law..

I see the dictionary redefining marriage as having the same effect. so in essence a dictionary and newspaper are now our lawmakers setting policy.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:06 PM   #52
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I actually have no friends that do not honor their vows, and will not knowingly associate with people that dishonor their marriage vows. I believe that a marriage is a fundamental contract with strong boundaries that must be adhered too... think of it like this, if a man will cheat his wife/family relationship. he will cheat you in a business relationship.
Just to be clear, you will never shoot a girl that is married or divorced as she dishonored her marriage vows and is someone you do not wish to associate with? You refuse to speak to divorced people as they broke the promise of until death do us part?

How do you justify shooting porn when so many wives feel their husbands should not watch it?

You made some bold claims to try to prop up your argument that you know are not true.

You're either a hypocrite or an idiot. Just trying to establish which.
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:20 PM   #54
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1) Assume complete control of the U.S. Federal, State and Local
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3) Destroy all healthy heterosexual marriages,
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7) Secure total control of the INTERNET and all mass media for the
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What is the gay agenda exactly? I hear that a lot.

As far as I can tell the gay agenda is simply gay people wanting the same rights as straight people.
There isn't a "gay" agenda and there aren't "gay" people. Because, according to others in this thread, your use of the word "gay" involves a WRONG meaning to the word "gay," which actually means happy and has now been devalued by the added definition (or alternate use of the word) to mean "homosexual."


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I actually have no friends that do not honor their vows, and will not knowingly associate with people that dishonor their marriage vows. I believe that a marriage is a fundamental contract with strong boundaries that must be adhered too... think of it like this, if a man will cheat his wife/family relationship. he will cheat you in a business relationship.
Do you see divorce as breaking marriage vows? You should. They clearly state that they will stay married until death. If you don't associate with anyone who has dishonored their marriage you better not be associating with divorced people.
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Do you see divorce as breaking marriage vows? You should. They clearly state that they will stay married until death. If you don't associate with anyone who has dishonored their marriage you better not be associating with divorced people.
or people boning outta wedlock
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Old 06-26-2013, 04:50 PM   #59
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Just to be clear, you will never shoot a girl that is married or divorced as she dishonored her marriage vows and is someone you do not wish to associate with? You refuse to speak to divorced people as they broke the promise of until death do us part?

How do you justify shooting porn when so many wives feel their husbands should not watch it?

You made some bold claims to try to prop up your argument that you know are not true.

You're either a hypocrite or an idiot. Just trying to establish which.
what does shooting a model have to do with being friends? my business partners do not cheat on their wives. you're way out there dude
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pretty sure stores about gay child abuse being somewhat suppressed by the media while stores of gay discrimination are widely covered could be construed as a gay agenda...

however like you have pointed out above the gay couples and people that I know are just ordinary people working and doing what they can to contribute and enjoy life
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There isn't a "gay" agenda and there aren't "gay" people. Because, according to others in this thread, your use of the word "gay" involves a WRONG meaning to the word "gay," which actually means happy and has now been devalued by the added definition (or alternate use of the word) to mean "homosexual."


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Old 06-26-2013, 05:00 PM   #62
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There isn't a "gay" agenda and there aren't "gay" people. Because, according to others in this thread, your use of the word "gay" involves a WRONG meaning to the word "gay," which actually means happy and has now been devalued by the added definition (or alternate use of the word) to mean "homosexual."


Same with "fags"... the entire smoking experience has been devalued
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Old 06-26-2013, 05:02 PM   #63
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Do you see divorce as breaking marriage vows? You should. They clearly state that they will stay married until death. If you don't associate with anyone who has dishonored their marriage you better not be associating with divorced people.
I'm divorced and I did dishonor my vows.. at the time of my marriage I was a using drug addict... would you consider a using drug addict as a person to get into a business relationship with?

what's with you anyway? why are you blowing things to an extreme example to make me look foolish? I will say you are very polite about it which is a real breath of fresh air considering the behaviors of the other like minded individuals here at GFY who immediately resort to low quality name calling if anyone dare to disagree with their opinion.

and honestly I didn't make a conscious decision to not have unfaithful friends... I have very few close relationships, so when I examined my relationships I found the my close friends were all faithful in the marriages and had been since the beginning of the marriages.

the one exception is my friend that is a swinger, as a coupe their relationship is so weird I have no idea what is going on and BTW they are divorced at this time.

I apologize if this doesn't meet you standards of bigoted behaviors or paint me in a negative light, this is just the plain old truth
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There isn't a "gay" agenda and there aren't "gay" people. Because, according to others in this thread, your use of the word "gay" involves a WRONG meaning to the word "gay," which actually means happy and has now been devalued by the added definition (or alternate use of the word) to mean "homosexual."


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I'm divorced and I did dishonor my vows.. at the time of my marriage I was a using drug addict... would you consider a using drug addict as a person to get into a business relationship with?

what's with you anyway? why are you blowing things to an extreme example to make me look foolish? I will say you are very polite about it which is a real breath of fresh air considering the behaviors of the other like minded individuals here at GFY who immediately resort to low quality name calling if anyone dare to disagree with their opinion.

and honestly I didn't make a conscious decision to not have unfaithful friends... I have very few close relationships, so when I examined my relationships I found the my close friends were all faithful in the marriages and had been since the beginning of the marriages.

the one exception is my friend that is a swinger, as a coupe their relationship is so weird I have no idea what is going on and BTW they are divorced at this time.

I apologize if this doesn't meet you standards of bigoted behaviors or paint me in a negative light, this is just the plain old truth
I am just trying to point out that life is complex. Human relationships are complex. These things, obviously, I don't need to tell you, but sometimes people like to speak in absolutes and I find myself wanting to point out that sometimes those absolutes aren't as absolute as they might think.

In the end, the reality is that throughout this debate we likely aren't going to change each other's minds. For you, there is a problem with two gay people getting married and calling it a marriage. I think they should be allowed to call it a marriage. To me it is just a word, but to you, and others, the word holds some kind of value that you feel would be reduced if gays were able to use it.

I have always felt that the language is fluid. Things changes. Words take on new and different meanings over time and when we allow ourselves to get bogged down in the details of certain things it holds us back from moving forward. If you look at how we speak and write now as compared to as little as 100 years ago it is very different. Never mind comparing it to 500 or 1000 years ago.

I prefer to remain polite. I respect other's opinions and I feel, in the end, it is a free country and we all entitled to feel how we want to feel. Calling someone names or being an ass to someone isn't going to help me prove my point or disprove theirs. Just because I don't agree with someone on some point doesn't mean I hate then, nor do I want them to hate me so I try to respect other's points of view while trying to make the case for why I feel I am correct in whatever matter is being discussed. Civil, intelligent debate is a good, healthy thing.
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I am just trying to point out that life is complex. Human relationships are complex. These things, obviously, I don't need to tell you, but sometimes people like to speak in absolutes and I find myself wanting to point out that sometimes those absolutes aren't as absolute as they might think.

In the end, the reality is that throughout this debate we likely aren't going to change each other's minds. For you, there is a problem with two gay people getting married and calling it a marriage. I think they should be allowed to call it a marriage. To me it is just a word, but to you, and others, the word holds some kind of value that you feel would be reduced if gays were able to use it.


I appreciate this dialog, thank you. I have no issues with gay couples enjoying all the benefits that any straight couple enjoys... the word marriage really holds no extra ordinary value for 'me'... I merely point out that the word 'marriage' holds a special value to a large segment of the population AND that the gay lobbies intentionally used the word 'marriage' to antagonize this segment of the population.

my personal opinion is that this was uncalled for, and possibly had the gay lobby used a different word none of this would have ever been noticed or been a controversy. to the best of my knowledge Disney has offered full benefits to gay couples for maybe as much as 15 years and it's has never been mentioned by the media.






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I have always felt that the language is fluid. Things changes. Words take on new and different meanings over time and when we allow ourselves to get bogged down in the details of certain things it holds us back from moving forward. If you look at how we speak and write now as compared to as little as 100 years ago it is very different. Never mind comparing it to 500 or 1000 years ago.

I prefer to remain polite. I respect other's opinions and I feel, in the end, it is a free country and we all entitled to feel how we want to feel. Calling someone names or being an ass to someone isn't going to help me prove my point or disprove theirs. Just because I don't agree with someone on some point doesn't mean I hate then, nor do I want them to hate me so I try to respect other's points of view while trying to make the case for why I feel I am correct in whatever matter is being discussed. Civil, intelligent debate is a good, healthy thing.
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I'm Caucasian and married to a Japanese woman.

In California, it would have been illegal for my marriage to take place prior to 1948. In fact, 38 States continued to ban interracial marriage at that time. It was not until 1967, just 46 years ago, that anti-miscegenation laws were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

Times change...deal with it!



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my personal opinion is that this was uncalled for, and possibly had the gay lobby used a different word none of this would have ever been noticed or been a controversy.
Perhaps you missed my question to you earlier... Do you disagree with the outcome of Loving v. Virginia? In 1967 it "redefined" marriage in my state and others. Perhaps if interracial couples had used a different word none of the hysteria or controversy then would have occurred. What about all of the people who didn't want their relationships called marriage? Activist judges shoved it down their throat
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