Websitebilling's Roxanne Answered Her Phone! Told Me What's Up! - GoFuckYourself.com

necoeds · 02-27-2003, 01:27 PM

Ok, I finally got ahold of roxanne, who is the head of the accounting department for websitebilling.

She assured me that all payments will be sent out either this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

She said that they are waiting for a big "batch" to come in from their old merchant number...... and that today was the limit for the old bank to pay them (evidentally they had 45 days to pay websitebilling)

Hopefully Roxanne pulls through.......

Any Comments?

nofx · 02-27-2003, 01:28 PM

I love the thing in your sig

that is the best movie ever! "damn it feels good to be a gangsta"

e-god · 02-27-2003, 02:31 PM

Lets hope wsb will be back in 100% soon.

Shoplifter · 02-27-2003, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds

Any Comments?

Are they sending the two checks owed as one? Or will we just get the check from Feb 1?

I have to mention that I find it a bit startling that these guys don't have the cash on hand to even manage a single payout if their banks are late.

necoeds · 02-27-2003, 04:29 PM

*cough*

e-god · 02-28-2003, 09:19 AM

Any news?

necoeds · 02-28-2003, 09:40 AM

My ACH still hasn't shown up.... i'm giving them until this afternoon, then i'm calling thier attourney general's office......

This is bullshit

Shoplifter · 02-28-2003, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds
My ACH still hasn't shown up.... i'm giving them until this afternoon, then i'm calling thier attourney general's office......

This is bullshit

I believe they're based in UK now so that will probably not help too much.

This is getting a little unsavory. They owe me thousands and still no word at all.

funkmaster · 02-28-2003, 02:58 PM

"She assured me that all payments will be sent out either this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon at the latest."

... it´s the UK, nobody works fridays after 2pm ... and nobody works saturdays/sundays either ... go figure !

DolcettChef · 02-28-2003, 04:49 PM

Roxanne works out of the Hollywood, Florida office.

It's Friday, the day Mike Sperber said we'd all get paid, and I didn't see a dime hit my account. Anyone else?

Ray@TastyDollars · 02-28-2003, 11:02 PM

Anyone get paid yet?

I also spoke to accounting, If im not mistaken I called this past wednesday. They told me a check for the full month of jauary was mailed on the 10th of Feb.

Well today, 18 days after it suposidly was mailed, NO CHECK YET!

Ray

Paul Markham · 02-28-2003, 11:12 PM

It is just amazing how these CC processors mess around with other peoples money.

IBill, IPS and now WSB. The excuse that the bank has not released the money is terrifying. This is money that was paid into WSB, who took 15% and then hold back 10%. So what happened to the 75%.

The bank has not paid them their/your money yet?????????

Sounds like it's time to call in the police.

iroc409 · 02-28-2003, 11:18 PM

makes ibill look good...

DolcettChef · 03-01-2003, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by charly
It is just amazing how these CC processors mess around with other peoples money.

IBill, IPS and now WSB. The excuse that the bank has not released the money is terrifying. This is money that was paid into WSB, who took 15% and then hold back 10%. So what happened to the 75%.

The bank has not paid them their/your money yet?????????

Sounds like it's time to call in the police.

That's something I mentioned in my latest email to Mike.

First let me say I don't hold Mike personally accountable - for all I know, he could just be hired help.

But the fact remains the money was generated by clients buying memberships to our websites. Money from OUR work. And for WSB to hold onto money they didn't earn, keeping it from those who did the work for it, is just plain wrong.

jact · 03-01-2003, 03:04 AM

Regardless if their bank paid them or not, your agreements are between yourselves and WSB, not with WSB's bank. I don't see "First National Bank of SCREW-U" on the agreement, do you? So regardless if they got paid, they should be sending out your cash, period!

funkmaster · 03-01-2003, 03:15 AM

"Roxanne works out of the Hollywood, Florida office."

... will not change anything.

SpaceAce · 03-01-2003, 03:21 AM

I'm not personally owed any money by WebSiteBilling, but a friend of mine has several thousand coming from them. He's pretty tweaked about the situation. Apparently he's owed for something like three months worth of sales with them. He also tells me that the woman he always gets on the phone is less than friendly.

This shit is really getting old. We've all been burned by sponsors in the past, and now it seems like the billing companies feel that it's their turn to play fast and loose with our money.

Jact has it right: your agreement is not with a processors banks or anyone else except the processor. I loved it when IBill decided they didn't need to pay anyone for Web900 sales because they said THEY didn't get paid for Web900. Convenient. They keep taking their percent out of your checks and just shaft you whenever they get the urge. Next month when your mortgage (or taxes the month after that) comes due, tell them you can't pay them because WSB hasn't released your funds and see what happens.

No matter how lousy shit gets there's always those five guys running around saying stuff like "There's nothing wrong, they're getting it straightened out, just give them a little time" but when things finally implode they'll be the first ones on here starting threads with little flaming red frownies on them bitching about the ass-fucking they took.

SpaceAce

SpaceAce · 03-01-2003, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter

I have to mention that I find it a bit startling that these guys don't have the cash on hand to even manage a single payout if their banks are late.

This is another good point. Do you really want the fate of your business in the hands of a company that is literally living from paycheck to paycheck?

SpaceAce

Shoplifter · 03-01-2003, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SpaceAce
that it's their turn to play fast and loose with our money.

Jact has it right: your agreement is not with a processors banks or anyone else except the processor.
SpaceAce

The sites you are promoting are on the hook as well. There are two contracts involved, the primary one with the site as their agent and then the one with their biller to facilitate that.

FlyingIguana · 03-01-2003, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds
Ok, I finally got ahold of roxanne, who is the head of the accounting department for websitebilling.

She assured me that all payments will be sent out either this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

She said that they are waiting for a big "batch" to come in from their old merchant number...... and that today was the limit for the old bank to pay them (evidentally they had 45 days to pay websitebilling)

Hopefully Roxanne pulls through.......

Any Comments?

they should hire me as cfo. i'll get their cash flow in order and shake those min wage accountants around.

e-god · 03-01-2003, 12:58 PM

Today is 03/01/2003. So they lied to us again..

necoeds · 03-01-2003, 01:30 PM

I'm ready to call the fucking cops....

Roxanne..... if your lieing smelly hahahaha bitch ass is reading this....... alls i got to say is

GO FUCK YOURSELF .... BITCH...

I've worked my ass off getting ahold of you, and everytime i do, it's another FUCKING LIE

eRock · 03-01-2003, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
"Roxanne works out of the Hollywood, Florida office."

... will not change anything.

I think he meant that cuz the checks are mailed from that oofice & not the UK, we should be gettin' them a helluva lot sooner than waiting for airmail from UK.

This is abosultely bullshit! I've had it with all their lies. Everytime I hear something about our checks it's always something different! It's obvious they're giving us the run around. If they were at least honest about it all it might be a little different, but they're continually lying to EVERYONE! I haven't been paid a cent from any sales in 2003 & we're already in fucking March! I'm gonna contact my attorney monday, I have screenshots of everything I'm owed from WSB, I'm no longher gonna push any sites that use WSB until I'm paid & I'm also gonna be doing some checking around w/ the authorities in Hollywood, FL.

jeffkd · 03-02-2003, 04:28 AM

I am with all of you. Mike Sperber told me Monday that he was absolutely positive we'd be paid this week. It's now Sunday, 3/2, and I see no ACH deposit as promised.

Are Mike and Roxanne deceiving us, or are they deceived? Either way this is bullshit.

I am all for calling ther police, the attorney general, or whoever. WSB may have headquarters in the UK, but they have a main US office in Florida, so the AG shouldn't mind looking into it.

dank · 03-02-2003, 05:02 AM

You aint getting paid.

e-god · 03-02-2003, 05:57 AM

Maybe the are going to send us the money for 3 payouts. Coz 03/01/2003 is a begining of the new payperiod. I think they are going to send us the money couple days latter... coz of new payperiod.

If they were sending it in the past week so next week they should send another payout. Thats a lot of work...

Anyways iam just wondering.

ServerGenius · 03-02-2003, 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by e-god
Maybe the are going to send us the money for 3 payouts. Coz 03/01/2003 is a begining of the new payperiod. I think they are going to send us the money couple days latter... coz of new payperiod.

If they were sending it in the past week so next week they should send another payout. Thats a lot of work...

Anyways iam just wondering.

Maybe they will pay us next year....that would even be more
easy for them and even less work......

DynaMite

goBigtime · 03-02-2003, 06:13 AM

I vent too much for my own good sometimes.

vegasdude · 03-02-2003, 06:47 AM

if that was me I would be on a plane! a ticket for uk and a ticket for florida!

EscortBiz · 03-02-2003, 08:36 AM

So many times I have seen the same shit, a company screwes you (webmasters) over they start with their bullshit about banks and FTC and FCC and you guys buyit and continute to work your ass off and not get paid.

The second someone does not pay you learn to move on, no second chances! You are not god you are a hard working webmasters that deserves no BULLSHIT!

If Roxanna or Mike made the shit up or they where told so by higher ups should really not matter, what matters is you did not get paid!

I can guarantee you one thing that Mike and Roxxane are getting thier paycheks ontime.

Im sure there are still some here that belive TelcoWeb will soon mailout checks

vegasdude · 03-02-2003, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Im sure there are still some here that belive TelcoWeb will soon mailout checks

muhahahahahha

eRock · 03-02-2003, 03:27 PM

Yup, no more pushing ANY sites that use WSB until I get paid...& if that's never, well...I guess I want be pushing that sponsor anymore.

jeffkd · 03-02-2003, 07:03 PM

Yeah, I'm removing our WSB join buttons tonight. This "check's-in-the-mail" routine seems like a sucker's game.

I guess Epoch would be better, eh?

johnny1 · 03-02-2003, 08:28 PM

your all geting jerked around...and the best!! theres really nothing you can do..costs you more on lawers than anything else....and thats if you find a lawer that knows e-buisness...

EscortBiz · 03-02-2003, 09:42 PM

Does the name Avi Reif or Rief ring a bell to anyone?

EscortBiz · 03-02-2003, 10:41 PM

anyone?

e-god · 03-03-2003, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds
I'm ready to call the fucking cops....

Roxanne..... if your lieing smelly hahahaha bitch ass is reading this....... alls i got to say is

GO FUCK YOURSELF .... BITCH...

I've worked my ass off getting ahold of you, and everytime i do, it's another FUCKING LIE

So whats up necoeds. I think we should wait a bit more.

Kick Ass Chat · 03-03-2003, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by e-god

So whats up necoeds. I think we should wait a bit more.

The more you wait on these crooks, the more your gonna be screwed........ Your deal is with WSB, not from anyone they have to collect from....

jact · 03-03-2003, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by e-god

So whats up necoeds. I think we should wait a bit more.

Yes, keep waiting, good advice. Keep sending them traffic too, yes, good advice. Keep sending them signups too, yes, good advice.

CDSmith · 03-03-2003, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by funkmaster
... it´s the UK, nobody works fridays after 2pm ... and nobody works saturdays/sundays either ... go figure !

Ya, but but but but.........

it says right on their *customer service* page.....

<i><b>"We are staffed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week to help you with your billing questions.</b>"
Other Ways to Contact Us
By Email:
[email protected]

By Telephone:
+1 (800) 297 3308</i>

24/7 means mon-fri in the UK??

necoeds · 03-03-2003, 02:25 PM

I'm just sick of their shit. Period.....

I called the police department in hollywood florida, and had them send me a crimial complaint form.

I got it today, and just got done filling it out. I listed mark and roxanne as the only contacts that i have at the company.

I filled out the complaint as a theft complaint.

I also filled out the online complaint form on the Florida A.G.'s website.

I also filled out a formal complaint form on the better businesses bureau......

I also filled out a complaint on the IFCC FBI website for internet fruad.

Hear that roxanne and mike...... i can guarantee that you guys will be getting some investigative phone calls in the next day or so.........

I'm ready to fuck these dipshits up........

Jim

Ray@TastyDollars · 03-03-2003, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by necoeds
I'm just sick of their shit. Period.....

I called the police department in hollywood florida, and had them send me a crimial complaint form.

I got it today, and just got done filling it out. I listed mark and roxanne as the only contacts that i have at the company.

I filled out the complaint as a theft complaint.

I also filled out the online complaint form on the Florida A.G.'s website.

I also filled out a formal complaint form on the better businesses bureau......

I also filled out a complaint on the IFCC FBI website for internet fruad.

Hear that roxanne and mike...... i can guarantee that you guys will be getting some investigative phone calls in the next day or so.........

I'm ready to fuck these dipshits up........

Jim

Ummm, could you please contact me on ICQ 161375873 , thx

Ray

02-27-2003, 01:27 PM	#1
necoeds Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,453	Websitebilling's Roxanne Answered Her Phone! Told Me What's Up! Ok, I finally got ahold of roxanne, who is the head of the accounting department for websitebilling. She assured me that all payments will be sent out either this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon at the latest. She said that they are waiting for a big "batch" to come in from their old merchant number...... and that today was the limit for the old bank to pay them (evidentally they had 45 days to pay websitebilling) Hopefully Roxanne pulls through....... Any Comments? __________________ Message me to promote nebraskacoeds + network sites...

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02-27-2003, 02:31 PM	#3
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02-28-2003, 04:49 PM	#10
DolcettChef Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 61	Roxanne works out of the Hollywood, Florida office. It's Friday, the day Mike Sperber said we'd all get paid, and I didn't see a dime hit my account. Anyone else?

02-28-2003, 11:12 PM	#12
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	It is just amazing how these CC processors mess around with other peoples money. IBill, IPS and now WSB. The excuse that the bank has not released the money is terrifying. This is money that was paid into WSB, who took 15% and then hold back 10%. So what happened to the 75%. The bank has not paid them their/your money yet????????? Sounds like it's time to call in the police. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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jact Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Oakville, Canada Posts: 9,134	Regardless if their bank paid them or not, your agreements are between yourselves and WSB, not with WSB's bank. I don't see "First National Bank of SCREW-U" on the agreement, do you? So regardless if they got paid, they should be sending out your cash, period! __________________ Free agent

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funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	"Roxanne works out of the Hollywood, Florida office." ... will not change anything.

03-01-2003, 03:21 AM	#17
SpaceAce Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Magrathea Posts: 6,493	I'm not personally owed any money by WebSiteBilling, but a friend of mine has several thousand coming from them. He's pretty tweaked about the situation. Apparently he's owed for something like three months worth of sales with them. He also tells me that the woman he always gets on the phone is less than friendly. This shit is really getting old. We've all been burned by sponsors in the past, and now it seems like the billing companies feel that it's their turn to play fast and loose with our money. Jact has it right: your agreement is not with a processors banks or anyone else except the processor. I loved it when IBill decided they didn't need to pay anyone for Web900 sales because they said THEY didn't get paid for Web900. Convenient. They keep taking their percent out of your checks and just shaft you whenever they get the urge. Next month when your mortgage (or taxes the month after that) comes due, tell them you can't pay them because WSB hasn't released your funds and see what happens. No matter how lousy shit gets there's always those five guys running around saying stuff like "There's nothing wrong, they're getting it straightened out, just give them a little time" but when things finally implode they'll be the first ones on here starting threads with little flaming red frownies on them bitching about the ass-fucking they took. SpaceAce

03-01-2003, 12:58 PM	#21
e-god Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: BabeLand Posts: 1,736	Today is 03/01/2003. So they lied to us again..

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necoeds Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,453	I'm ready to call the fucking cops.... Roxanne..... if your lieing smelly hahahaha bitch ass is reading this....... alls i got to say is GO FUCK YOURSELF .... BITCH... I've worked my ass off getting ahold of you, and everytime i do, it's another FUCKING LIE __________________ Message me to promote nebraskacoeds + network sites...

03-02-2003, 04:28 AM	#24
jeffkd Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 47	I am with all of you. Mike Sperber told me Monday that he was absolutely positive we'd be paid this week. It's now Sunday, 3/2, and I see no ACH deposit as promised. Are Mike and Roxanne deceiving us, or are they deceived? Either way this is bullshit. I am all for calling ther police, the attorney general, or whoever. WSB may have headquarters in the UK, but they have a main US office in Florida, so the AG shouldn't mind looking into it. __________________ Ebony / Interracial Hardlink http://shae.tv/linkex Last edited by jeffkd; 03-02-2003 at 04:49 AM..

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e-god Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: BabeLand Posts: 1,736	Maybe the are going to send us the money for 3 payouts. Coz 03/01/2003 is a begining of the new payperiod. I think they are going to send us the money couple days latter... coz of new payperiod. If they were sending it in the past week so next week they should send another payout. Thats a lot of work... Anyways iam just wondering.

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necoeds Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Lincoln, Nebraska Posts: 2,453	I'm just sick of their shit. Period..... I called the police department in hollywood florida, and had them send me a crimial complaint form. I got it today, and just got done filling it out. I listed mark and roxanne as the only contacts that i have at the company. I filled out the complaint as a theft complaint. I also filled out the online complaint form on the Florida A.G.'s website. I also filled out a formal complaint form on the better businesses bureau...... I also filled out a complaint on the IFCC FBI website for internet fruad. Hear that roxanne and mike...... i can guarantee that you guys will be getting some investigative phone calls in the next day or so......... I'm ready to fuck these dipshits up........ Jim __________________ Message me to promote nebraskacoeds + network sites...