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Old 10-19-2011, 07:06 PM   #1
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Flash is history...

HTML5 and javascript from here on out... shit be workin' on 'er thang yo...

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Old 10-19-2011, 07:21 PM   #2
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All flash sites never made sense to search engines,

I don't even think I am going to use an html editor anymore and just go wordpress on both adult and mainstream. For $100 bucks you can get some super templates that look amazing.
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Old 10-19-2011, 07:24 PM   #3
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You ARE fucking high - to see by far the best and most creative websites in the world (all in Flash) go to:

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In all honesty I think you can impress the viewer just as much with quality imagery without things moving around and potentially difficult to control. Look at some of the big artsy adult paysites!
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Flash has other uses then websites. I have a friend who uses it to create animated user and training manuals for different pieces of equipment.
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Aside from google and facebook I honestly can't think of any HTML5 or javascript RIA (complex website) that works perfectly on all browsers and systems. By the time the HTML5 comes close to today's Flash capabilities Flash will be turning web 3D.
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liking flash is so 1995.

it's the whole 'just because you can, doesn't mean you should' thing.
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Aside from google and facebook I honestly can't think of any HTML5 or javascript RIA (complex website) that works perfectly on all browsers and systems. By the time the HTML5 comes close to today's Flash capabilities Flash will be turning web 3D.
There is already 3d web based set ups.. Unity3d's newest release will be-able build as swf files. Meaning up til now you had to do their 3d games via their plug-in but now it will work with Flash.

Not to mention Shockwave was doing full 3D browser games years ago but when Adobe took it over they treated it like a red headed step child and pretty much ignored shockwave and put full focus on Flash. Stupid mistake on their part because now others like Unity3d have filled the vacuum and become the dominant game engine for web based 3d.

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Old 10-20-2011, 03:37 AM   #12
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Flash will be here for a long time. HTML5 is not yet a standard and supported by all browsers
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There is already 3d web based set ups.. Unity3d's newest release will be-able build as swf files. Meaning up til now you had to do their 3d games via their plug-in but now it will work with Flash.

Not to mention Shockwave was doing full 3D browser games years ago but when Adobe took it over they treated it like a red headed step child and pretty much ignored shockwave and put full focus on Flash. Stupid mistake on their part because now others like Unity3d have filled the vacuum and become the dominant game engine for web based 3d.
Actually Flash Player 11 already much more 3d oriented, it has direct access to your computer's gpu. Check this out.
Also Flash platform is not only for Flash animated movies. It's also used for very complex RIAs build with Adobe Flex. And Flex is something that HTML5 is not going to get even close to. It can publish for web, desktop, Android and iOS. And in HTML5 you still need to analyze users browser to do something more or less complex.
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Actually Flash Player 11 already much more 3d oriented, it has direct access to your computer's gpu. Check this out.
Also Flash platform is not only for Flash animated movies. It's also used for very complex RIAs build with Adobe Flex. And Flex is something that HTML5 is not going to get even close to. It can publish for web, desktop, Android and iOS. And in HTML5 you still need to analyze users browser to do something more or less complex.
Yea but what unity3d will bring to flash browser games will be much more in-depth. Talking dynamic shadows, real physics, network support for multilayer games and so on. Unity is already the the most used engine for smart phone development and it already has a pretty big presence in browser based games (Battlestar Galactica Online for example was made with it)

Added to that Unity can build to web browser, PC, Mac, Android, iOS, xbox, wii & playstation and soon flash. Meaning it's become the most used platform for indy game development and what it will bring to flash game development will end up making 3d browser games a lot more common.
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Right when google finally learns how to get content out of flash... those engineers must be a bit pissed.
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I don't know why people care about this topic so much. Use what you like and what makes sense to the needs of your project. Why does anyone have to hate any platform? Flash haters are so 1996.
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Old 10-20-2011, 02:08 PM   #19
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I don't hate any platform. I just like my sites to work on every device without redirects and shit. I'm also learning to make buttons a lil bigger on my sites... catering to the touch screeners and shit. Just tryin' to get in where I fit in mang... feel me? You ain't gotta do like me, just sharin' my highdeas.
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html5 is so far off i dont know why anyone really worries much about it.

and flash, it aint goin anywhere. its used for so many different things, past playing video on websites.
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html5 is so far off i dont know why anyone really worries much about it.

and flash, it aint goin anywhere. its used for so many different things, past playing video on websites.
People look at an HTML5 example and go WOW!!!

But they don't realize that the same example can be done in Flash in 1/10 the
time without any programming.

Programming is a must for HTM5L; it's just an option for Flash.
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flash is awesome
however when you want to be streaming..it has its limits
you need to load the whole file for one....so its slow.
the whole shitstorm with apple is the other.
it isnt going anywhere though...especially not .flvs
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the great problem with websites is many people now use a mobile to look at them.

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the great problem with websites is many people now use a mobile to look at them.

so unless you have a mobile version of your site, then your site could be no use.

True for iPhone -- for Android false ...
We are using Flash on our Android mobile platform.
What's iPhone's future when they are late adopters like Internet Explorer is?
Time will tell ...
However for now, we are forced to maintain a "special code for Apple products."

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however when you want to be streaming..it has its limits
you need to load the whole file for one....so its slow.
the whole shitstorm with apple is the other.
it isnt going anywhere though...especially not .flvs
You don't know what you are doing.

Streaming is done by software on your server not in a flash player.

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AS3 is a nightmare, but AS1 and AS2 still work.
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Flash is far from dead. Apple only has about 11% of the market. That isn't enough to kill off flash.
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Games. Games. Games.

Sorry but WebGL sucks more CPU than anything else I've seen, but Flash runs fine.
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HTML5 is often bugged, also check the source code of an HTML5 website (google for their next animation on their first page), this is a nightmare.
Flash is a single file so it can be viral (you can reuse the flash elsewhere), with html5 you have to copy and paste code and it sucks a little bit.
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