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Old 08-30-2013, 07:59 AM   #51
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LOLOLOLOL this industry never fails to entertain - society's rejects exploiting each other from top to bottom.

that website is a piece of shit, infringing on X-Hamster's trademark
Well when it comes to xhamster,there is like billions of domains having their name on it,seems they dont care about it.I guess its thief tolerate thief thing
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:30 AM   #52
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So i bought JuicyAds Ad's for 1 month on new Xhamster site 500$/month

200 clicks daily on 1 Million Impressions daily for a month

Money Made 0$

lol lets see all the juicyads supporters defend this. Its hilarious to see how horrible 90% of these ad sites/brokers are converting but still in biz
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:43 AM   #53
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lol lets see all the juicyads supporters defend this. Its hilarious to see how horrible 90% of these ad sites/brokers are converting but still in biz
Defend what? Idiots waste their money all the time jumping into things they don't understand and then proclaim the thing they didn't understand is the problem.

What do you fucking morons think?

...You think it's just so easy that all you have to do is throw money around and watch sales start tumbling in? What's next for you fucking clowns? You going to force your way into the cockpit on the next commercial flight you're on and demand to fly the plane because you decided its easy - then blame the plane as you fly it into the ground?
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:25 PM   #54
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philstraffic never converts (new xhamster site+tonnes of others), i would avoid them.
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:30 PM   #55
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Defend what? Idiots waste their money all the time jumping into things they don't understand and then proclaim the thing they didn't understand is the problem.

What do you fucking morons think?

...You think it's just so easy that all you have to do is throw money around and watch sales start tumbling in? What's next for you fucking clowns? You going to force your way into the cockpit on the next commercial flight you're on and demand to fly the plane because you decided its easy - then blame the plane as you fly it into the ground?
Well put dude!

I guess its good though that more don't understand it and make more competition.
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philstraffic never converts (new xhamster site+tonnes of others), i would avoid them.
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You will be lucky to get 1 free dating join a day from those 200 clicks
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:59 PM   #57
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Well on that site the key problem is lack of premium traffic,it seems most of it coming from non-premium countries which is why it makes hard to convert.
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:42 PM   #58
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If you wan't to promote dating/cams, you need loads of tweaking. If you are trying to promote a paysite, you only want to buy spots on related sites, otherwise you are just throwing money down the drain.
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Old 08-30-2013, 02:45 PM   #59
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You will be lucky to get 1 free dating join a day from those 200 clicks
you be better buying ads off the amateur sites (selfhost pic type) they have awesome clickthrus.
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:19 AM   #60
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So i bought JuicyAds Ad's for 1 month on new Xhamster site 500$/month

200 clicks daily on 1 Million Impressions daily for a month

Money Made 0$

what were you advertising?
For that money you could have bought a GEOd RON campaign, and work to optimize your banners/landers. Assuming you know to track and analyze everything.
There are too many variables involved to try and figure out why it's not working - could be the traffic, could be what you're pushing. I've had dating sites that convert 1:900 and others 1:30 on the same traffic
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Old 08-31-2013, 08:49 AM   #61
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lol lets see all the juicyads supporters defend this. Its hilarious to see how horrible 90% of these ad sites/brokers are converting but still in biz
Not anything to defend here. The guy bought a $500 ad on a site with 15% US traffic. If it was as easy as throwing $500 out there and doubling your money everyone would do it. Stats are there to view. Traffic quantity, traffic geo, ctr, cpc etc... Those that actually read what they are buying and tweak/adjust make money. Those that blindly buy and throw money into the wind fail. Juicy Ads is actually one of the best that post on this forum but ya gotta read what the hell you are buying as buying from a site with only 20% high quality traffic and 80% garbage geo not gonna pan out. Buying from sites like this just keeps them in biz, dedicate your $$$ to sites with a high percentage of quality geo traffic and that would help end those that list ads and then go feed em with garbage cheap bad geo traffic from other sources. Stop supporting sites with shitty geo traffic

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Old 08-31-2013, 10:09 AM   #62
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Main problem of juicy comparing with exo, ero-adv, tj, old blacklabelads, maybe even trafficforce/trafficfactory is not having ability to geotarget spots from direct buys.

They are like Adxpansion which sucks for same reason. They starting to have direct buys at last, but still no geotargeting inside platform

They could be very good and cheaper for RON buys. But who knows, it probably only think which may be worthy so lot of competitors should be there.

Somewhat experienced media buyer here;)

Juicy, better to obtain some great sites in inventory, much of them already bought out forever, rest are sucks in quality or low traffic.

Waited for a thread like that to respond at last.
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cahek if you want a list of sites with good clickthrus (ones on juicyads and ones you can direct buy) let me know.

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Old 08-31-2013, 10:33 AM   #64
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NOBODY sells traffic that converts. all ad networks do is help monetize pirates
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you really can' just buy that kind of traffic and expect to make money these days. If it was very productive they would keep it for themselves. It takes a lot of work and money to track and adjust your buys and advertised products. Adult isn't the only option as well, look to networks for different offers. It really does come down to working the numbers and optimizing.
Good advice.

Here's mine. Only work with ad companies like Juicyads, AdXpansion etc that provide a HUMAN that you can talk to. Ask to have an account rep assigned to you that will help you with your advertising. Like every company knows, repeat business is what counts. If you work with a rep who knows what they're doing they'll show you good returns by making sure your ads work and are placed properly, keeping you advertising with them again and again.
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Weird, my campaigns are converting
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NOBODY sells traffic that converts. all ad networks do is help monetize pirates
Lol in that case all traffic brokers would be out of bussiness tommorow already.
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Isn't the point of buying ads, especially at that quantity on a tube, branding and not making money on impulse sales?
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i Had 0 results with Juicy Ads as well. total waste really.
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For the record,

I live on ad buys and creative's. So its still possible to make money off paid traffic.


1. Know your processing. Don't buy countries that don't have the right cards to purchase.
2. Test, tweak, micro-tweak your landing page/creative's to death
3. Track productivity, filter, track productivity, filter
4. Don't focus on source, but performance alone, you'd be surprised
5. Dumb it down - follow the geo only. I could give a shit where they come from, as long as they are truly uv and the geo I'm after
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I only buy traffic for the SEO benefits.
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1. Juicy have all good spaces with good traffic + good geo bought out.
2. Cause of 1) will not help
3. Once again, see 1)
4. With no ability to GEO on direct buys no point.
5. How ? Only on RON buys, your advices have zero value for direct buys.

It's ALSO have value where on site, ad space they come from, but I hope you see my point there. All this advices could be not so hard as you make it as long you can geo on certain ad space buys, like exo, tj, etc.

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I live on ad buys and creative's. So its still possible to make money off paid traffic.


1. Know your processing. Don't buy countries that don't have the right cards to purchase.
2. Test, tweak, micro-tweak your landing page/creative's to death
3. Track productivity, filter, track productivity, filter
4. Don't focus on source, but performance alone, you'd be surprised
5. Dumb it down - follow the geo only. I could give a shit where they come from, as long as they are truly uv and the geo I'm after
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1. Juicy have all good spaces with good traffic + good geo bought out.
2. Cause of 1) will not help
3. Once again, see 1)
4. With no ability to GEO on direct buys no point.
5. How ? Only on RON buys, your advices have zero value for direct buys.

It's ALSO have value where on site, ad space they come from, but I hope you see my point there. All this advices could be not so hard as you make it as long you can geo on certain ad space buys, like exo, tj, etc.
Yes i noticed that as well on other brokers,all the good positions already taken so new buyer can only get shit lol
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Do you guys (having bad results) really think Juicy Ads doesn't work for anybody? You think they're really able to stay in business (and growing) all these years off the backs of $500 one and done media buyers?

If you know how to buy, every ad network works. If you are not optimizing your campaigns, no ad network works. Juicy is absolutely fine - but learn how to use it, and learn how to manage your campaign spends.
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Do you guys (having bad results) really think Juicy Ads doesn't work for anybody? You think they're really able to stay in business (and growing) all these years off the backs of $500 one and done media buyers?

If you know how to buy, every ad network works. If you are not optimizing your campaigns, no ad network works. Juicy is absolutely fine - but learn how to use it, and learn how to manage your campaign spends.
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Do you guys (having bad results) really think Juicy Ads doesn't work for anybody? You think they're really able to stay in business (and growing) all these years off the backs of $500 one and done media buyers?

If you know how to buy, every ad network works. If you are not optimizing your campaigns, no ad network works. Juicy is absolutely fine - but learn how to use it, and learn how to manage your campaign spends.
why spend money with network which I need to optimize instead of giving $500 to network who did that for me ?
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Defend what? Idiots waste their money all the time jumping into things they don't understand and then proclaim the thing they didn't understand is the problem.

What do you fucking morons think?

...You think it's just so easy that all you have to do is throw money around and watch sales start tumbling in? What's next for you fucking clowns? You going to force your way into the cockpit on the next commercial flight you're on and demand to fly the plane because you decided its easy - then blame the plane as you fly it into the ground?
True, but ... if it wasnt for these people, brokers would have way less business, 100% fill rates would be a dream and some of them would be out of business
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