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Old 02-01-2014, 11:12 AM   #101
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If you no longer make sales it might not seem a huge amount, but that is not the point, traffic could rebound, sales can happen even with small traffic and a single customer with rebills can be as much as $500 to you, you would lose thousands of dollars in sales over the years.
What happens to me is a brief shift in search engine results sending a blast of traffic to a seven-year-old blog post. It usually only lasts a few days, but in the aggregate these events are responsible for a good proportion of my sales. Having a program dump me because I'm not sending steady sales is destructive and hurts both of us.
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Old 02-02-2014, 02:48 AM   #102
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This is related to Met-Art but I will post it here because other webmasters looking for alternatives should know that Met-Art is accepting Bitcoins, I just saw it today.

I don't see any likehood that affiliates are going to get credited for customers paying in Bitcoins since CCBill does not manage Bitcoin payments. It is not a huge worry because few people use Bitcoins at the moment, but it makes you think about how many ways there are for affiliates to get screwed.

I spotted another sponsor I had links to moving CCBill as backup billing agent , this means that all billings that are not rejected will not be credited to the affiliate. Of course I deleted the few links and photos I had to that sponsor, but this is just wasting my time on them.

I think that the affiliate business model is totally dead in adult. This is not worth it, you get up one day and the rules of the game have changed, the last three years work can all be gone just like that, there is nothing you can do if a sponsor changes the rules of the game. We are lucky enough if they play dirty tricks the legal way, if they don't do it legal it can not be seen.

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Old 02-02-2014, 03:40 AM   #103
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I spotted another sponsor I had links to moving CCBill as backup billing agent , this means that all billings that are not rejected will not be credited to the affiliate. Of course I deleted the few links and photos I had to that sponsor, but this is just wasting my time on them.
Which sponsor? This is why I prefer sponsors that have their own affiliate program and tracking program rather than CCbill...
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Old 02-02-2014, 07:10 AM   #104
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:30 AM   #105
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Which sponsor? This is why I prefer sponsors that have their own affiliate program and tracking program rather than CCbill...
agree, downside there is sometimes higher minimum payouts, which weren't a problem a few years back, but now

BUT most importantly, no guarantee that you'll see your payout, it never really used to be a big problem, but the amount of time I had to waste this past year on actually getting my money is incredible and yes some fuckers still owe me money and I have no hope of ever seeing it

but still most sponsors keep saying how great things are going, best year ever and that crap, but at the same time affiliates are being screwed left and right, and payouts don't seem to arrives in affiliate's bank accounts

so actually I'm looking to promote more ccbill & epoch programs again, because I know I'll get the money. NATS run big programs will pay me out, but the conversions are shit and with smaller nats programs I have no guarantee of a payout
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:37 AM   #106
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It's becoming very popular for these bro sponsors to shit on small and medium sized affiliates. Fuck it. Take the hint. Stay away from them. Promote someone else. If there are no viable choices left then promote something else. But don't keep banging your head against the wall with people like this who will screw you over. You'll never get ahead.
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Old 02-02-2014, 08:38 AM   #107
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so actually I'm looking to promote more ccbill & epoch programs again, because I know I'll get the money. NATS run big programs will pay me out, but the conversions are shit and with smaller nats programs I have no guarantee of a payout
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:32 AM   #108
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I promote only the big programs even though they are somehow over saturated but at least I know they'll pay... I thought Femjoy was among those type of programs but I must have been wrong...
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Old 02-02-2014, 09:35 AM   #109
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I promote only the big programs even though they are somehow over saturated but at least I know they'll pay... I thought Femjoy was among those type of programs but I must have been wrong...
they pay, they are just mad about low sales and they didnt realized its industry wide, so they push hard to get a buck more ...
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Which sponsor?
They are not a big brand, they care called Teendreams, it says on their billing page (100% secured transaction - Billed as www .purewebpower.net).
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Old 02-02-2014, 10:10 AM   #111
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I spotted another sponsor I had links to moving CCBill as backup billing agent , this means that all billings that are not rejected will not be credited to the affiliate. Of course I deleted the few links and photos I had to that sponsor, but this is just wasting my time on them.
Teendreams = dream-cash, but they run a NATS program (I remember a few years ago, you could choose to use nats or ccbill links) how do you know they're not awarding money to affiliates if that first biller is used?
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:06 AM   #112
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Teendreams = dream-cash, but they run a NATS program (I remember a few years ago, you could choose to use nats or ccbill links) how do you know they're not awarding money to affiliates if that first biller is used?
Because they are not CCBill?
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:36 AM   #113
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I don't see any likehood that affiliates are going to get credited for customers paying in Bitcoins since CCBill does not manage Bitcoin payments.
I think met-art metioned it was credited to affiliates. They use bitpay.com like everyone else and this one pays in dollars to the program; it is enough to tell ccbill how much $$ to add to payouts with some integration which sure met-art done.

But as you said, bitcoin sales are a joke in %, maybe in 2020 will be nice % but I would say not shortly.
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Old 02-02-2014, 11:49 AM   #114
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Because they are not CCBill?
but if you use NATS links, you should get your cut, no matter which biller they use
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OK, well it seems I got this wrong, sorry.
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Old 02-02-2014, 03:53 PM   #116
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Old 02-02-2014, 05:15 PM   #117
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Thank you, I appreciate that, I have sold a few of their memberships and I hope you will have the same luck.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:06 AM   #118
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This is related to Met-Art but I will post it here because other webmasters looking for alternatives should know that Met-Art is accepting Bitcoins, I just saw it today.

I don't see any likehood that affiliates are going to get credited for customers paying in Bitcoins since CCBill does not manage Bitcoin payments.
Yes, we've been accepting Bitcoin for a good while. It was announced in this thread.

CCBill also does not manage the cam payouts that we issue to affiliates, but we still make them. Unfortunately, we have no way of itemizing them, but they do show up in the total. If we did not have the ability to track them, affiliate traffic wouldn't go to join forms with that payout option.

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I think met-art metioned it was credited to affiliates. They use bitpay.com like everyone else and this one pays in dollars to the program; it is enough to tell ccbill how much $$ to add to payouts with some integration which sure met-art done.
You are correct, thank you.
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:20 AM   #119
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:50 AM   #121
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:57 AM   #122
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Great info from met-art , thanks Selena. Met-art network is my favorite program to promote.
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Old 02-03-2014, 06:23 PM   #123
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You all are welcome!

And thank you, ctggls! We love having you promote us, so if you need anything, let me know.
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