This is how the US should deal with Westboro - GoFuckYourself.com

NewNick · 03-14-2014, 09:55 AM

Now I know you chaps all like to enjoy your free speech, but I see nothing wrong with drawing a line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26579717

Sometimes, somethings should not be said.

You all have the right to say whatever you want. But cross this line and you are going to jail.

The UK gets a lot of stuff wrong, but we would never stand for the nonsense you get from Westboro.

A married couple have been jailed for posting videos on YouTube glorifying Fusilier Lee Rigby's murder.

Royal Barnes, 23, of Hackney, east London, recorded and uploaded three videos shortly after the murder in Woolwich, south-east London, last May.

In one of the videos, he hailed the murder as a "brilliant day".

At the Old Bailey, the Muslim couple were both jailed - Barnes for five years and four months, while Rebekah Dawson, 22, was sentenced to 20 months.

'Offensive in the extreme'
Barnes had already pleaded guilty to three counts of disseminating a terrorist publication and one of inciting murder, while Dawson, who had insisted on wearing a veil in court, had previously admitted disseminating a terrorist publication.

Judge Brian Barker QC told them the videos they made were "offensive in the extreme".

He said the couple showed "a total and continuing disregard" for how their actions might affect the family of the soldier, the people who witnessed his murder and the British public.

slapass · 03-14-2014, 09:58 AM

Westboro is like 5 people. I am not sure it is worth the time to write a new law about them.

EddyTheDog · 03-14-2014, 10:08 AM

I see they are neighbours of mine in Hackney - Nice...

Joshua G · 03-14-2014, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by NewNick

Now I know you chaps all like to enjoy your free speech, but I see nothing wrong with drawing a line.

maybe thats why we kicked your ass in 1781. We dont want your stupid lines.

NewNick · 03-14-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

maybe thats why we kicked your ass in 1781. We dont want your stupid lines.

You just cannot buy class........

CurrentlySober · 03-14-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I see they are neighbours of mine in Hackney - Nice...

You couldn't make it up, could you ?

EddyTheDog · 03-14-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CurrentlySober

You couldn't make it up, could you ?

The faster I can get my skinny white ass out of this dump the better...

brassmonkey · 03-14-2014, 10:35 AM

if you give violence you get violence. westboro is not violent.

as far as i know

AmeliaG · 03-14-2014, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JoshGirls Josh

maybe thats why we kicked your ass in 1781. We dont want your stupid lines.

JoshGirls has already covered what I was going to say

You can't outlaw the speech you do not like, if you want to have the freedom to speak up when maybe not everyone agrees with your opinion.

brassmonkey · 03-14-2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by AmeliaG

JoshGirls has already covered what I was going to say

You can't outlaw the speech you do not like, if you want to have the freedom to speak up when maybe not everyone agrees with your opinion.

sure its called censorship

they did it to gangsta rap thought it would destroy it

it made rap blow up! i still have my nwa album wrapped in a towel

SilentKnight · 03-14-2014, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

if you give violence you get violence. westboro is not violent.

as far as i know

No, their words and actions incite violence.

And hatred.

And intolerance.

brassmonkey · 03-14-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

No, their words and actions incite violence.

And hatred.

And intolerance.

sticks and stones

NewNick · 03-14-2014, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight

No, their words and actions incite violence.

And hatred.

And intolerance.

bizarre.

A country hated throughout the world.......

SilentKnight · 03-14-2014, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

sticks and stones

I disagree.

Calling it "sticks and stones" is rather dismissive. Westboro Baptist takes it farther than simply "sticks and stones".

I regard those inbred bible-thumpers as more insidious than some who actually perpetrate violence.

kane · 03-14-2014, 04:19 PM

Anytime free speech is brought up I think of Larry Flynt who said, "If the First Amendment will protect a scumbag like me, it will protect all of you."

Nuff said.

NewNick · 03-14-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kane

Anytime free speech is brought up I think of Larry Flynt who said, "If the First Amendment will protect a scumbag like me, it will protect all of you."

Nuff said.

Quite.

2MuchMark · 03-14-2014, 09:57 PM

No, the phelps's and others at the westborro should not be arrested. Free speech is is a right after all. Try to take something good from what they say. They expose the stupidity and complete hatred that a lot of other people have. Use them as one of the ugliest things in the world, and make sure you're better than them in every way possible.

galleryseek · 03-14-2014, 10:16 PM

::insert my once in a random month post here::

I'm an anarchist/atheist, so me "sticking up" for westboro should be seen as a purely logical evaluation, not some biased Christian nut..

The Non-Aggression Principle (NAP) defined: The recognition that it's immoral to initiate or threaten the initiation of force against a person or their property. It's what we teach our children, "Don't hit, don't steal, don't threaten others."

Pretty simple universal shit right? The westboro aren't initiating or threatening the initiation of force against others, even though they're fucking bat shit insane and taking a chance of being killed.

So it's wrong for others (police/law enforcement, your family/friends, etc..) to do the same. I know, it's tough/convoluted/fucked up, but if you think the NAP has any relevance, you can't *initiate* or threaten the initiation of force against them. Use voluntary means instead to combat the problem of ignorance.

SilentKnight · 03-14-2014, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

They expose the stupidity and complete hatred that a lot of other people have. Use them as one of the ugliest things in the world, and make sure you're better than them in every way possible.

Are we still talking about the Phelps family...or Qweebec?

j/king

Paully · 03-14-2014, 10:32 PM

Laws against hate or intolerance baffle me. Thats punishing someone for a thought spoken.

We have (or should have, almost have) the 1st amendment. I don't agree with most people but I can't imagine a place where we can throw people in jail for not believing me.

Let the hatemongers isolate and destroy themselves. Chose who you affiliate with on a more discerning level. Let the thieves be accountable. Murder and mayhem!!!

See thats why I shouldn't be in charge.

2MuchMark · 03-15-2014, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by silentknight

are we still talking about the phelps family...or qweebec?

J/king

...... ;)

03-14-2014, 09:55 AM	#1
NewNick Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 7,033	This is how the US should deal with Westboro Now I know you chaps all like to enjoy your free speech, but I see nothing wrong with drawing a line. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-26579717 Sometimes, somethings should not be said. You all have the right to say whatever you want. But cross this line and you are going to jail. The UK gets a lot of stuff wrong, but we would never stand for the nonsense you get from Westboro. A married couple have been jailed for posting videos on YouTube glorifying Fusilier Lee Rigby's murder. Royal Barnes, 23, of Hackney, east London, recorded and uploaded three videos shortly after the murder in Woolwich, south-east London, last May. In one of the videos, he hailed the murder as a "brilliant day". At the Old Bailey, the Muslim couple were both jailed - Barnes for five years and four months, while Rebekah Dawson, 22, was sentenced to 20 months. 'Offensive in the extreme' Barnes had already pleaded guilty to three counts of disseminating a terrorist publication and one of inciting murder, while Dawson, who had insisted on wearing a veil in court, had previously admitted disseminating a terrorist publication. Judge Brian Barker QC told them the videos they made were "offensive in the extreme". He said the couple showed "a total and continuing disregard" for how their actions might affect the family of the soldier, the people who witnessed his murder and the British public. __________________ "Americas Hitler" JD Vance. “There isn’t really an upside to Trump.” Tucker Carlson. “a convicted felon rapist is now your president” OneHungLow, gfy.com

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2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,644	No, the phelps's and others at the westborro should not be arrested. Free speech is is a right after all. Try to take something good from what they say. They expose the stupidity and complete hatred that a lot of other people have. Use them as one of the ugliest things in the world, and make sure you're better than them in every way possible. __________________ Custom Software \| Server Management \| Integration and Technology Solutions https://www.2much.net

03-14-2014, 10:16 PM	#18
galleryseek Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 8,234	::insert my once in a random month post here:: I'm an anarchist/atheist, so me "sticking up" for westboro should be seen as a purely logical evaluation, not some biased Christian nut.. The Non-Aggression Principle (NAP) defined: The recognition that it's immoral to initiate or threaten the initiation of force against a person or their property. It's what we teach our children, "Don't hit, don't steal, don't threaten others." Pretty simple universal shit right? The westboro aren't initiating or threatening the initiation of force against others, even though they're fucking bat shit insane and taking a chance of being killed. So it's wrong for others (police/law enforcement, your family/friends, etc..) to do the same. I know, it's tough/convoluted/fucked up, but if you think the NAP has any relevance, you can't initiate or threaten the initiation of force against them. Use voluntary means instead to combat the problem of ignorance. Last edited by galleryseek; 03-14-2014 at 10:19 PM..

03-14-2014, 10:32 PM	#20
Paully www.Max-Hardcore.com Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,556	Laws against hate or intolerance baffle me. Thats punishing someone for a thought spoken. We have (or should have, almost have) the 1st amendment. I don't agree with most people but I can't imagine a place where we can throw people in jail for not believing me. Let the hatemongers isolate and destroy themselves. Chose who you affiliate with on a more discerning level. Let the thieves be accountable. Murder and mayhem!!! See thats why I shouldn't be in charge. __________________ CCBill Affiliates Let's Make Some Monies! Paullybadboy [@] gmail.com ICQ 631384423

03-14-2014, 09:58 AM	#2
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,622	Westboro is like 5 people. I am not sure it is worth the time to write a new law about them.

03-14-2014, 10:08 AM	#3
EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 25,040	I see they are neighbours of mine in Hackney - Nice...

03-14-2014, 04:19 PM	#15
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	Anytime free speech is brought up I think of Larry Flynt who said, "If the First Amendment will protect a scumbag like me, it will protect all of you." Nuff said.