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crockett · 04-14-2014, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

so it must be true.

what is your input on why the NATO allies wouldn't use a massive scandal like that to their advantage?

rather, piss it all away in a bizarre 'he said she said they did' scenario?

obviously strategy far beyond our blinkered minds..

It was not just the US but NATO that did it, I think they used it for what it was. A warning to China to back off and the denial of communications to the Serbs. At that time China wasn't the same economic partner to the West as it is today. It was only 2 years later that the Chinese fighter jet collide with the US spy plane killing the Chinese pilot and forcing the US plane to land in Chinese controlled territory.

We were still very much antagonizing each other, so I think it was just used as a combined way to end the military communications for the Serbs and to tell China to back off and not get involved with any kind of support.

crockett · 04-14-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

We NEVER fuck with any country that can actually defend itself anymore.

Our federal govt. is the bully of the world and uses our military as it's muscle.

We do, we just do it in other ways than just militarily. Countries that can defend themselves are usually better off economically than those that can't. Meaning hindering them economically, will harm them just as much in the long run.

What would the US gain by bringing troops into the situation in Ukraine? There is just far too much risk of a bigger war, so Russia will push more so they can grab some more land and US/NATO will not do anything forcibly to stop it. There is not any real gains for us to do anything to actually stop it. Russia will try to take more, most likely so they have more to bargain with if there is a deal made. Sadly Ukraine is the one in the middle that gets the shaft either way.

It's short term profits for Russia but in the long term it's going to hurt them a lot economically. Investors will see Russia as unpredictable and Europe will start looking elsewhere for gas. Russia still tries to play the game as if it were the old world and trying to rebuild their old empire land mass. The US understands you don't rule the world by colonialism of the old but rather you control the world economy by trade.

_Richard_ · 04-14-2014, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

It was not just the US but NATO that did it, I think they used it for what it was. A warning to China to back off and the denial of communications to the Serbs. At that time China wasn't the same economic partner to the West as it is today. It was only 2 years later that the Chinese fighter jet collide with the US spy plane killing the Chinese pilot and forcing the US plane to land in Chinese controlled territory.

We were still very much antagonizing each other, so I think it was just used as a combined way to end the military communications for the Serbs and to tell China to back off and not get involved with any kind of support.

yes, that must be it

Dirty Dane · 04-14-2014, 04:08 PM

Why can't we all just be friends.

directfiesta · 04-14-2014, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane

Why can't we all just be friends.

kiss of Judah ....

EddyTheDog · 04-14-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

so it must be true.

what is your input on why the NATO allies wouldn't use a massive scandal like that to their advantage?

rather, piss it all away in a bizarre 'he said she said they did' scenario?

obviously strategy far beyond our blinkered minds..

Or then again it could be true?...

dyna mo · 04-14-2014, 06:29 PM

Antonio · 04-15-2014, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie

Hang on...so we have a destroyer in the Black Sea and we have a problem with Russia flying a plane over it?

The Black Sea is surrounded by NATO countries, Russia should stay in its tiny corner

VKcams · 04-15-2014, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

The Black Sea is surrounded by NATO countries, Russia should stay in its tiny corner

Buy a Black Sea Map and count NATO countries.
US military ships can stay in Black Sea not more than 21 Days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreu..._the_St raits

Antonio · 04-15-2014, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by VKcams

Buy a Black Sea Map and count NATO countries.
US military ships can stay in Black Sea not more than 21 Days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreu..._the_St raits

You might be right, geography isn't my strong point, let's see if I got it right

just a punk · 04-15-2014, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Antonio

The Black Sea is surrounded by NATO countries, Russia should stay in its tiny corner

It's not just a NATO ship. It's the US ship. Perhaps you don't know but Black Sea has very strict limits for of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states (e.g. the USA).

What exactly the US ship is doing there? What is the purpose of the "visit"? I'll tell you. It came there to provoke Russia. So the US sailors are playing a fool when they "don't understand" what Russian jet is doing near their ship. Because they know it. It's there to provoke the States. That's the rules of the game, and Vendz will confirm it.

P.S. As we say: "if you pull out a gun, always be ready to use it, otherwise you may find it stuck in your own ass".

EddyTheDog · 04-15-2014, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

It's not just a NATO ship. It's the US ship. Perhaps you don't know but Black Sea has very strict limits for of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states (e.g. the USA).

What exactly the US ship is doing there? What is the purpose of the "visit"? I'll tell you. It came there to provoke Russia. So the US sailors are playing a fool when they "don't understand" what Russian jet is doing near their ship. Because they know it. It's there to provoke the States. That's the rules of the game, and Vendz will confirm it.

P.S. As we say: "if you pull out a gun, always be ready to use it, otherwise you may find it stuck in your own ass".

I thought they where there at the request of Romania and it was organized long before this mess started...

Sexier · 04-15-2014, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

I thought they where there at the request of Romania and it was organized long before this mess started...

You are correct as most of the times before those night drinks, it was planned way before this mess started only russians see it the other way.

By the way weather in south of Spain is gorgeous just to make you jealous

VKcams · 04-15-2014, 01:10 AM

Usualy Russian Fighters and Bombers send pictures of US Military Ships to their E-Mail.
Probably pilot likes not a picture, and he make new pictures again and again.

EddyTheDog · 04-15-2014, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexier

You are correct as most of the times before those night drinks, it was planned way before this mess started only russians see it the other way.

By the way weather in south of Spain is gorgeous just to make you jealous

WTF - Are you my mum?..

I have told her before - No fake nics.....

Sexier · 04-15-2014, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

WTF - Are you my mum?..

I have told her before - No fake nics.....

Nope, but your mum is giving me great info..

just a punk · 04-15-2014, 07:19 AM

Don't know is that's true or not... so I just post it here with no comment: http://translate.google.com/translat...tml&edit-text=

Antonio · 04-15-2014, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Don't know is that's true or not... so I just post it here with no comment: http://translate.google.com/translat...tml&edit-text=

_Richard_ · 04-15-2014, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog

Or then again it could be true?...

truth is a matter of perspective.

if you want to have the perspective that the reason NATO launched three cruise missiles at an embassy was because the chinese embassy was communicating with the local army

after making up a bunch of bs about incorrect maps blah blah

be my guest

VKcams · 04-15-2014, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO

Don't know is that's true or not... so I just post it here with no comment: http://translate.google.com/translat...tml&edit-text=

21 day or 14 Days in Black Sea with no problems?

femdomdestiny · 04-15-2014, 03:05 PM

just a punk · 04-15-2014, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny

No facts, just a pure Russian propaganda. The real and independent truth is only on CNN and Fox "News" - they never lie

evy97 · 06-04-2014, 07:23 AM

US spy plane flies in Russian sovereign territory, Russian's accused of being provocative by intercepting it

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27701195

just a punk · 06-04-2014, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97

US spy plane flies in Russian sovereign territory, Russian's accused of being provocative by intercepting it

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27701195

Classic

dyna mo · 06-04-2014, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97

US spy plane flies in Russian sovereign territory, Russian's accused of being provocative by intercepting it

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27701195

so international waters is now russian sovereign territory? That explains putin's thinking.

evy97 · 06-04-2014, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

so international waters is now russian sovereign territory? That explains putin's thinking.

Sea of Okhotsk is all Russia territory

dyna mo · 06-04-2014, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97

Sea of Okhotsk is all Russia territory

not according to the article.

put you're russian I can understand why you think this.

crockett · 06-04-2014, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint

The Pentagon said a Russian fighter jet made multiple close-range passes near an American navy destroyer. The warship was deployed in the Black Sea as Russian military monitored NATO?s systematic build-up of naval forces in the region.

The fighter appeared to be unarmed, US military said, calling the move ?provocative and unprofessional?.

"This provocative and unprofessional Russian action is inconsistent with their national protocols and previous agreements on the professional interaction between our militaries," said Colonel Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.

Pentagon defined the jet as a Russian Su-24 aircraft, or Fencer, which made 12 passes at low altitude near the USS Donald Cook that, at the time, was conducting a patrol in international waters in the western Black Sea, Reuters reported.

Earlier, a military official told AP that on April, 12, a Russian aircraft flew repeatedly within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook at about 500 feet above sea level for over 90 minutes.

According to the official, the destroyer?s crew made several attempts to radio the Russian warplane requesting the reason for the manoeuvre. They then reportedly issued warnings to remain at a safe distance, however, there was no response from the Russian pilot.

The Russians sure are putting a fuck u up to the US

http://rt.com/news/pentagon-destroyer-russian-jet-428/

Actually I think the biggest fuck U comes at the hand of the US, by the mere fact that we have naval vessels in the black sea and the only thing they can do about it, is to fly unarmed jets by our boats.

evy97 · 06-04-2014, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

not according to the article.

put you're russian I can understand why you think this.

UN says Sea of Okhotsk enclave part of Russia -> http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/848917.shtml

+ I'm not Russian

dyna mo · 06-04-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by evy97

UN says Sea of Okhotsk enclave part of Russia -> http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/848917.shtml

+ I'm not Russian

maybe,

still up for debate, and that's very recently if so. like within the last few days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_Hole#cite_note-7

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