new improved Femjoy?

[Magnetron]

Looking at the latest galleries emailed to me, I see Femjoy is going a more explicit route fixating on crotch and open twat shots.

Isn't this what Joymii was for?

Is this the new and improved Femjoy?

Or an experiment gone awry?

Gawd.

[Magnetron]

Here's an example from the latest batch o freebies.

http://hosted.femjoy.com/galleries/1...002&PA=1163044

[Mutt]

Look at all the traffic leaks at the bottom of the FHG, years ago affiliates would freak out, today nobody cares.

Softcore is pretty dead and that includes solo explicit style like in that gallery. Zishy is an exception, it's different, it's non-nude and shot in a style that very few adult shooters 'get'.

[~Ray]

they are flowing with the trends

[Femjoy Michael]

Originally Posted by Mutt

Look at all the traffic leaks at the bottom of the FHG, years ago affiliates would freak out, today nobody cares.

What traffic leaks?
Do you mean the links in the footer?
Mutt, it's an FHG, not a custom gallery. The visitor gets tracked on entry if the user follows the ccbill referral link. It's no different than linking to any page on our site. It's tracked for any page on our domain.

[Femjoy Michael]

Originally Posted by Magnetron

Looking at the latest galleries emailed to me, I see Femjoy is going a more explicit route fixating on crotch and open twat shots.

That's actually from last year.

A few of our new photographers formerly worked for other nude sites where crotch shots were more prevalent. We are very aware of the situation and asked them to tone it down.

I'm doing a minor audit of Femjoy right now and thought much like you, that Femjoy is becoming more explicit, but there were a few periods in the early years where the content was MUCH closer to joymii than a few crotch shots. I was rather surprised.

[The Porn Nerd]

Originally Posted by Femjoy Michael

What traffic leaks?
Do you mean the links in the footer?
Mutt, it's an FHG, not a custom gallery. The visitor gets tracked on entry if the user follows the ccbill referral link. It's no different than linking to any page on our site. It's tracked for any page on our domain.

I think (think?) Mutt means all those links at the bottom of the page. Yes, they al go to Femjoy but they lead to things like reviews, member feedback, this and that - all Femjoy but not 'clean', as in ALL links going to the tour/join page.

But I see this a LOT in FHGs these days. I even saw one yesterday on The Hun and it looked like a friggin' tube site! I was kind of shocked since it looked like a single-page tube site, with all the penis pill and dating ads on them. MUCH much worse than what Femjoy is doing (and others). Crazy shit.

I am so old school my school was a fucking cave. LOL

[Useless Warrior]

Originally Posted by Femjoy Michael

What traffic leaks?
Do you mean the links in the footer?
Mutt, it's an FHG, not a custom gallery. The visitor gets tracked on entry if the user follows the ccbill referral link. It's no different than linking to any page on our site. It's tracked for any page on our domain.

Yes, IF they use the referral link. The vast majority of those links are NOT referral links. Unless this gallery cookies the browser or starts a session, I don't see how anyone is getting credit for most of those links. And, if it does, why are some the links very obviously CCBill links?

I'm old school too. I don't like the extraneous nonsense links. If I can't see my ID being passed in the link, I'm not a happy boy.

[fitzmulti]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Yes, IF they use the referral link. The vast majority of those links are NOT referral links. Unless this gallery cookies the browser or starts a session, I don't see how anyone is getting credit for most of those links. And, if it does, why are some the links very obviously CCBill links?

I'm old school too. I don't like the extraneous nonsense links. If I can't see my ID being passed in the link, I'm not a happy boy.

With CCBILL {at least in my affiliate program, so I am sure the same goes across the board} "ALL" of my sites, that are in my program pick up CCBILL's affiliate code and "pass them along, site to site", whether you can "see them" in the link, or not.
I am going to bet the same holds true with pretty much any network using CCBILL, as long as the sites are in the same affiliate program.

[bean-aid]

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

With CCBILL {at least in my affiliate program, so I am sure the same goes across the board} "ALL" of my sites, that are in my program pick up CCBILL's affiliate code and "pass them along, site to site", whether you can "see them" in the link, or not.
I am going to bet the same holds true with pretty much any network using CCBILL, as long as the sites are in the same affiliate program.

Account Grouping *enabled*. If enabled, it works like that.

[Useless Warrior]

Originally Posted by fitzmulti

With CCBILL {at least in my affiliate program, so I am sure the same goes across the board} "ALL" of my sites, that are in my program pick up CCBILL's affiliate code and "pass them along, site to site", whether you can "see them" in the link, or not.
I am going to bet the same holds true with pretty much any network using CCBILL, as long as the sites are in the same affiliate program.

With the long-defunct CCBill program I used to work for, if the link leading from the hosted gallery didn't clearly pass the affiliate ID, it wasn't handed over to the receiving tour pages. Not that that is the only way to handle the passing of info from one page to the next, but to me, it's the surest way to handle it because I can see it in all of the links. It makes me feel safe as an affiliate.

Example, very simple gallery and all links are CCBill links. http://galleries2.ftvcash.com/V20_ga...www.lia19.com/

Slightly more complicated, many more links, but all clearly pass the affiliate ID. http://ww2.zishy.com/promo/2/429?PA=2456253

[BIGTYMER]

Adapt or die.

[Femjoy Michael]

Originally Posted by beaner

Account Grouping *enabled*. If enabled, it works like that.

THIS and some other stuff in the settings!

Additionally, we did two things:
1. ccbill ref link the joymii banner at the bottom to make sure the affiiliate receives the joymii sale

2. some links are ccbill ref'd for appearances to satisfy the concerns you guys are expressing in this thread. No matter how many times we individually spoke to affiliates about it, confirmed it with our ccbill ref and THEIR ccbill ref, asked them to open up their browser's cookie and SEE the ccbill id, some affiliates simply wouldn't believe it. I can understand some people are old school, but this would be over a decade-old-school.

[The Hun]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

I think (think?) Mutt means all those links at the bottom of the page. Yes, they al go to Femjoy but they lead to things like reviews, member feedback, this and that - all Femjoy but not 'clean', as in ALL links going to the tour/join page.

But I see this a LOT in FHGs these days. I even saw one yesterday on The Hun and it looked like a friggin' tube site! I was kind of shocked since it looked like a single-page tube site, with all the penis pill and dating ads on them. MUCH much worse than what Femjoy is doing (and others). Crazy shit.

I am so old school my school was a fucking cave. LOL

Would love to know what link that was... sounds like it was altered after it was approved...

[Magnetron]

Originally Posted by Femjoy Michael

That's actually from last year.

A few of our new photographers formerly worked for other nude sites where crotch shots were more prevalent. We are very aware of the situation and asked them to tone it down.

I'm doing a minor audit of Femjoy right now and thought much like you, that Femjoy is becoming more explicit, but there were a few periods in the early years where the content was MUCH closer to joymii than a few crotch shots. I was rather surprised.

http://hosted.femjoy.com/galleries/1...002&PA=1163044

Noooooooooo! make it stop make it stop