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Old 05-21-2014, 03:12 PM   #1
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:mad 'Canadian' Father Gets 2 Month Sentence For Killing Daughter - Guess The Religion

Oh fuck does this piss me off, bravo Canada, where you can go to jail for years for hurting somebody's feelings under 'hate crime/speech' laws BUT if you want to kick and punch your 13 year old daughter to death for not doing a good job washing the floor and then say you're sorry for it, 2 months. The judge is as much a criminal as the Muslim shitbag father. This little girl's brain and liver hemorrhaged, this wasn't a spanking, this was a vicious beating.

Mark Prince, this travesty of justice happened in your home province. Why are you so worried about gun control, taxes, voter suppression and 50 other issues in a country you aren't a citizen or a resident of while you live in a country with plenty of shit like this to be up in arms about?

Dad gets two months in jail for slap that killed daughter

LONGUEUIL, Que. ? A father will serve 60 days in jail for a slap that killed his teenage daughter.

Moussa Sidime, 74, says he just wanted to correct 13-year-old Noutene for doing a bad job of washing the kitchen floor.

Judge Richard Marleau decided Wednesday that two months in jail was sufficient, citing Sidime's remorse and clean criminal record.

The defendant had pleaded guilty last June to involuntary manslaughter for the attack that sent his daughter tumbling to the ground in their home in October 2010.

The court heard that the teen was struck at least three times.

A police officer testified that Sidime had called 911 to say that he had slapped his daughter and that she was bleeding from the nose and mouth.

Officers arrived at the home and found Noutene unconscious on the kitchen floor.

She died later in hospital.

The court heard that there were no external signs of violence but that there was hemorrhaging in her brain and her liver.

The defence had suggested a suspended sentence. The Crown wanted Sidime to serve two years in prison.

Judge Richard Marleau finally sentenced Sidime to two months in jail, citing mitigating factors including his clean criminal record and remorse.

He had broken down in court in February, telling his sentencing hearing that it was the first time he had ever slapped his daughter.

"If I had known one slap would kill her ... I can't believe it could be fatal," he told the court, sobbing.

"(She was) the kindest of my children I always think about my daughter. I'm not a villain. I've never been a villain."
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Old 05-21-2014, 03:20 PM   #2
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Putting aside location, religion and race - killing a kid with 3 slaps is out of this world.

2 months isn't much, but from the limited info the article gives, seems like this was a case of a really unfortunate accident after hard disciplining.
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Death from a slap? Sure, sounds more like a few good punches.
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Putting aside location, religion and race - killing a kid with 3 slaps is out of this world.

2 months isn't much, but from the limited info the article gives, seems like this was a case of a really unfortunate accident after hard disciplining.
You must be an idiot, 'unfortunate accident'? When you beat somebody hard enough to cause hemmorhaging it is NO ACCIDENT!!!

There's also a legal principle called 'the thin skull' principle, when you strike somebody with your fist or feet or anything the damage you inflict is on you - EVEN if the victim had some prior physical defect that you weren't aware of. These 'slaps' caused her death. He didn't intend to kill the girl but he did intend to hurt her, which he did and it caused her death and anything less than 5 years in jail is a joke.

The judge and the crown attorney are a disgrace.
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what does Religion have to do with a court ruling??????
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what does Religion have to do with a court ruling??????
It doesn't have much to do with the ruling/sentence, though in Canada it is taught that you must respect other cultures' ways so it could have played a part in the judge's mind though he'd never admit it, if this father had been a white anglo saxon piece of trash he may would have gotten more.

Religion has much to do with this crime, Muslims treat their women like dogs. If this child had been male the father doesn't beat on him.
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2 months isn't much, but from the limited info the article gives, seems like this was a case of a really unfortunate accident after hard disciplining.
I'd like to second the idiocy of this statement.

"Unfortunate accident" and "hard discipling".
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Putting aside location, religion and race - killing a kid with 3 slaps is out of this world.

2 months isn't much, but from the limited info the article gives, seems like this was a case of a really unfortunate accident after hard disciplining.
i really hope you aren't a parent...and yes if this guy was a white canadian he would of gotten years.
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You must be an idiot, 'unfortunate accident'? When you beat somebody hard enough to cause hemmorhaging it is NO ACCIDENT!!!

There's also a legal principle called 'the thin skull' principle, when you strike somebody with your fist or feet or anything the damage you inflict is on you - EVEN if the victim had some prior physical defect that you weren't aware of. These 'slaps' caused her death. He didn't intend to kill the girl but he did intend to hurt her, which he did and it caused her death and anything less than 5 years in jail is a joke.

The judge and the crown attorney are a disgrace.

I believe the "thin skull doctrine" only applies to civil cases, like when the dead person's family sues the killer for wrongful death.

But yes, this still does sound way too lenient for an intentional killing.
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Hemorrhaging could have also been caused by falling and hitting her head on the ground. Though, none of us were there and will never know the whole story
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I believe the "thin skull doctrine" only applies to civil cases, like when the dead person's family sues the killer for wrongful death.

But yes, this still does sound way too lenient for an intentional killing.
hmmmm - you might be right. need to wikipedia it.
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hmmmm - you might be right. need to wikipedia it.
I could be totally wrong though. Just something that I remembered (erroneously?) from college way way back lol
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Hemorrhaging could have also been caused by falling and hitting her head on the ground. Though, none of us were there and will never know the whole story
So these 'slaps' were hard enough to send her down to the floor with enough force to cause bleeding in her brain. And the 'slap' to her body was hard enough to cause her liver to bleed.

The prosecution must have been as inept as the judge.

2 months in jail - we put people in jail for longer than 2 months for spray painting their name on a building!
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Oh fuck does this piss me off, bravo Canada, where you can go to jail for years for hurting somebody's feelings under 'hate crime/speech' laws BUT if you want to kick and punch your 13 year old daughter to death for not doing a good job washing the floor and then say you're sorry for it, 2 months. The judge is as much a criminal as the Muslim shitbag father. This little girl's brain and liver hemorrhaged, this wasn't a spanking, this was a vicious beating.

Mark Prince, this travesty of justice happened in your home province. Why are you so worried about gun control, taxes, voter suppression and 50 other issues in a country you aren't a citizen or a resident of while you live in a country with plenty of shit like this to be up in arms about?

Dad gets two months in jail for slap that killed daughter

LONGUEUIL, Que. ? A father will serve 60 days in jail for a slap that killed his teenage daughter.

Moussa Sidime, 74, says he just wanted to correct 13-year-old Noutene for doing a bad job of washing the kitchen floor.

Judge Richard Marleau decided Wednesday that two months in jail was sufficient, citing Sidime's remorse and clean criminal record.

The defendant had pleaded guilty last June to involuntary manslaughter for the attack that sent his daughter tumbling to the ground in their home in October 2010.

The court heard that the teen was struck at least three times.

A police officer testified that Sidime had called 911 to say that he had slapped his daughter and that she was bleeding from the nose and mouth.

Officers arrived at the home and found Noutene unconscious on the kitchen floor.

She died later in hospital.

The court heard that there were no external signs of violence but that there was hemorrhaging in her brain and her liver.

The defence had suggested a suspended sentence. The Crown wanted Sidime to serve two years in prison.

Judge Richard Marleau finally sentenced Sidime to two months in jail, citing mitigating factors including his clean criminal record and remorse.

He had broken down in court in February, telling his sentencing hearing that it was the first time he had ever slapped his daughter.

"If I had known one slap would kill her ... I can't believe it could be fatal," he told the court, sobbing.

"(She was) the kindest of my children I always think about my daughter. I'm not a villain. I've never been a villain."
I'm a bit surprised shit bag larry hasn't popped in to belittle you for your 'hate filled mind'
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It is hard to believe that this is the first time he had ever struck her...
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I could be totally wrong though. Just something that I remembered (erroneously?) from college way way back lol
The eggshell skull rule (or thin skull rule or you take your victim as you find him rule of the common law) is a well established legal doctrine used in some tort law systems,[1] with a similar doctrine applicable to criminal law. It increases the liability of a person who may commit a tort against another, from results arising out of those tortious acts.

However, all the cases used as examples were civil cases.
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what i would do would be slapping old gentleman as many times as i would be sure he would get his own hemorrhage, then maybe i would add few jumps over his bonebag.

look at his proud-selfrighteous-fuck-face:



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i say kill motherfucker with no mercy.
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He's 74, daughter was 13, wonder how old the mother is?
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He's 74, daughter was 13, wonder how old the mother is?
my thoughts exactly.
old fucker was prob "old fashioned" believed that kids are breed for cleaning around his shit, grow up to 14 then should be married asap.
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what i would do would be slapping old gentleman as many times as i would be sure he would get his own hemorrhage, then maybe i would add few jumps over his bonebag.

look at his proud-selfrighteous-fuck-face:



and here the gurl:



i say kill motherfucker with no mercy.
He should have another year tacked onto his sentence just for being a smug ass about the whole incident.
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what i would do would be slapping old gentleman as many times as i would be sure he would get his own hemorrhage, then maybe i would add few jumps over his bonebag.

look at his proud-selfrighteous-fuck-face:



and here the gurl:



i say kill motherfucker with no mercy.
But that would be racist. Don't you see?
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It doesn't have much to do with the ruling/sentence, though in Canada it is taught that you must respect other cultures' ways so it could have played a part in the judge's mind though he'd never admit it, if this father had been a white anglo saxon piece of trash he may would have gotten more.

Religion has much to do with this crime, Muslims treat their women like dogs. If this child had been male the father doesn't beat on him.
Well said. Muslims should live in their own countries, and if they immigrate they should 100% abide the culture.
Most important part is disgusting liberals/guilters/own culture traitor in the matter of muslim scum perishing.
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he must have been a hell of a volleyball player
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if they dont get him in jail canada is weak
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http://m.dailykos.com/story/2013/12/...use-He-is-Rich

I like how you pretend Canada has some sort of monopoly on fucked up sentencing or that Canadians in any way condone this. You could pull stories like this out of your ass all day for any country in the world. See above link as an example.
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2 months isn't much, but from the limited info the article gives, seems like this was a case of a really unfortunate accident after hard disciplining.
Really??? Any idea the punishment that Boxers take and dont have that every time. So for this to happen on the first time sounds like she got a massive beating.
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