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Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 12:12 PM

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...heat%20Shee t

But gun-trafficking is not where the story ends. There are numerous allegations that federal agencies fighting the drug trade have, in fact, facilitated the trafficking by certain cartels. And worse: that they took sides in their wars, helping one cartel against another in an orgy of bloodletting. In Ciudad Juárez, Mexico, from 2007 to 2010 the number of murders jumped from 300 to more than 3,000. That was precisely the time period in which collaboration between at least one federal agency and one cartel in the Juárez wars was at its closest.

Damn, what's our government doing on the border? Is this why Obama is going without congress on doing something about the border?

TampaToker · 07-01-2014, 12:22 PM

On fucking real if true..... Would explain a lot if you think about it.....

mineistaken · 07-01-2014, 12:26 PM

Damn Hussein.

Sly · 07-01-2014, 12:45 PM

Now you're just posting scripts from Sons of Anarchy!

Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Now you're just posting scripts from Sons of Anarchy!

You talk to any 1%er and you will find that kind of stuff on that show just doesn't happen.

It would have to be at a government level for this to happen.

Oh wait, that was season 4 I think? LOL

Rochard · 07-01-2014, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Is this why Obama is going without congress on doing something about the border?

Oh my god Becky.

Obama is trying to fix the problem and Congress is doing.... nothing. As usual.

MrBottomTooth · 07-01-2014, 01:42 PM

Was hoping this thread was going to be about the Paul Walker death hoax used to promote the next sequel.

Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Oh my god Becky.

Obama is trying to fix the problem and Congress is doing.... nothing. As usual.

Except it's a problem that Obama created, that's what a lot of people think

House Speaker John Boehner, who plainly wants immigration reform to get done, was reduced to claiming that Congress couldn?t act to pass a new law so long as Obama kept changing the current ones by fiat.

The argument didn?t entirely make sense given that reform could kick in after Obama leaves and, in any event, Obama without congressional action would continue to act unilaterally and cast the Republicans as anti-immigrant.

That changed when thousands rushed to our border, including flocks of unaccompanied minors. A GOP senior aide remarked to me, ?I think it is fair to say that his executive order on DREAM-ers is partially if not fully responsible for the current humanitarian crisis.? The aide contends Obama?s announcement that he will shift resources to the border ?is largely a ruse to give him more space for executive action to ease up on the deportations, which again is only going to make the problem worse and not better.?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...lines-further/

It would be nice if you actually knew anything about what you post about

TampaToker · 07-01-2014, 02:08 PM

There is a bill on the floor right now that would pass the house and senate and Boehner refuses to put it up for a vote all because the senate drafted it. Hell they even wont vote on immigration this year. So fuck Boehner another useless politician that has to go....

Rochard · 07-01-2014, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Except it's a problem that Obama created, that's what a lot of people think

House Speaker John Boehner, who plainly wants immigration reform to get done, was reduced to claiming that Congress couldn?t act to pass a new law so long as Obama kept changing the current ones by fiat.

The argument didn?t entirely make sense given that reform could kick in after Obama leaves and, in any event, Obama without congressional action would continue to act unilaterally and cast the Republicans as anti-immigrant.

That changed when thousands rushed to our border, including flocks of unaccompanied minors. A GOP senior aide remarked to me, ?I think it is fair to say that his executive order on DREAM-ers is partially if not fully responsible for the current humanitarian crisis.? The aide contends Obama?s announcement that he will shift resources to the border ?is largely a ruse to give him more space for executive action to ease up on the deportations, which again is only going to make the problem worse and not better.?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...lines-further/

It would be nice if you actually knew anything about what you post about

You are saying that I know nothing about what I am posting about, yet all you can do is cut and paste from an article. You do not have a single original thought ever.

The Senate passed an immigration bill and Congress is doing nothing with it. They aren't even planning on discussing it. Yet in your twisted warped world you want to blame it on Obama.

The Republican Congress has done nothing except for bitch and whine for the past four years. What a fucking joke.

Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

There is a bill on the floor right now that would pass the house and senate and Boehner refuses to put it up for a vote all because the senate drafted it. Hell they even wont vote on immigration this year. So fuck Boehner another useless politician that has to go....

"The issue of immigration reform has not changed," Boehner said emphatically at a press conference. "The president continues to ignore laws that he signed into law, violating his oath of office. ... The president is going to have to demonstrate that he can be trusted to implement a law the way it was passed."

Boehner has been saying for months he would like to address immigration reform, but Republicans fear that if they passed a law, President Barack Obama would ignore the parts of it he disliked. The speaker suggested the situation was exacerbated by the recent trade of five Taliban militants for U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was being held in captivity in Afghanistan. The administration made the trade without notifying Congress.

Boehner said he told Obama on Wednesday "that every time he does this, it makes it harder to gain the trust of our members to do the big things that need to be done around here."

Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

You are saying that I know nothing about what I am posting about, yet all you can do is cut and paste from an article. You do not have a single original thought ever.

The Senate passed an immigration bill and Congress is doing nothing with it. They aren't even planning on discussing it. Yet in your twisted warped world you want to blame it on Obama.

The Republican Congress has done nothing except for bitch and whine for the past four years. What a fucking joke.

The fucking joke is nothing makes you fucking happy, I can copy and paste, you have a problem, if I give opinion, you copy and paste. If I post from Fox, you say that's from Fox, even though they are rated the most trust worthy of cable news shows by a wide margin

BTW Congress is made up of the house and senate, showing you are fucking ignorant of what you are talking about as usual! LOL Fuck Richard, if you are going to bitch about it, try to understand it first!

Here. let me educate you with a little copy and past

The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States consisting of two houses: the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the Capitol in Washington, D.C. Both representatives and senators are chosen through direct election, though vacancies in the Senate may be filled by a gubernatorial appointment. Members are affiliated to the Republican Party or to the Democratic Party, and only rarely to a third-party or as independents. Congress has 535 voting members: 435 Representatives and 100 Senators.

So, to conclude, you don't know shit!

TampaToker · 07-01-2014, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

"The issue of immigration reform has not changed," Boehner said emphatically at a press conference. "The president continues to ignore laws that he signed into law, violating his oath of office. ... The president is going to have to demonstrate that he can be trusted to implement a law the way it was passed."

Boehner has been saying for months he would like to address immigration reform, but Republicans fear that if they passed a law, President Barack Obama would ignore the parts of it he disliked. The speaker suggested the situation was exacerbated by the recent trade of five Taliban militants for U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was being held in captivity in Afghanistan. The administration made the trade without notifying Congress.

Boehner said he told Obama on Wednesday "that every time he does this, it makes it harder to gain the trust of our members to do the big things that need to be done around here."

so that equals shit will be getting done while Obama is in office. Unfucking real that a bill can pass a house and senate and 1 person can hold a bill up that effects millions of life's.

Are you defending Boehner position or you are you just showing were he stands?

Rochard · 07-01-2014, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

BTW Congress is made up of the house and senate, showing you are fucking ignorant of what you are talking about as usual! LOL Fuck Richard, if you are going to bitch about it, try to understand it first!

Here. let me educate you with a little copy and past

The United States Congress is the bicameral legislature of the federal government of the United States consisting of two houses: the Senate and the House of Representatives. The Congress meets in the Capitol in Washington, D.C. Both representatives and senators are chosen through direct election, though vacancies in the Senate may be filled by a gubernatorial appointment. Members are affiliated to the Republican Party or to the Democratic Party, and only rarely to a third-party or as independents. Congress has 535 voting members: 435 Representatives and 100 Senators.

So, to conclude, you don't know shit!

My god you are retarded... The question still remains - Why isn't Congress passing immigration reform legislation? It passed the Senate.

You made a post bitching about Obama yet again, while Congress sits around with it's thumbs up it's asses doing nothing. And when Obama does it on his own without Congress the Republican party will just fire off yet another lawsuit.

Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker

so that equals shit will be getting done while Obama is in office. Unfucking real that a bill can pass a house and senate and 1 person can hold a bill up that effects millions of life's.

Are you defending Boehner position or you are you just showing were he stands?

What I believe is that Obama is throwing around that "I don't need Congress to do what I want to do", and that's unproductive.

Reagan and Clinton worked with the other side to get things done. That's what they have to do to get things done, Obama is above working with the other side. Not the example of an effective leader.

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My god you are retarded... The question still remains - Why isn't Congress passing immigration reform legislation? It passed the Senate.

You made a post bitching about Obama yet again, while Congress sits around with it's thumbs up it's asses doing nothing. And when Obama does it on his own without Congress the Republican party will just fire off yet another lawsuit.

Admit you're an idiot that doesn't know that Congress is made up of the Senate and the House of reps and maybe, just maybe I will school you about all the other things in government you have zero clue about! LOL

Rochard · 07-01-2014, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Admit you're an idiot that doesn't know that Congress is made up of the Senate and the House of reps and maybe, just maybe I will school you about all the other things in government you have zero clue about! LOL

When is Congress going to pass the immigration bill? The Senate did, when is the House going to pass it?

MaDalton · 07-01-2014, 04:20 PM

Cliff notes: Obama = bad

Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

When is Congress going to pass the immigration bill? The Senate did, when is the House going to pass it?

Or do you mean fix the problem that Obama started with the dream act? Or started with going over congress by returning 5 terrorist without due process, therefore violating a law he signed a year before? That's why Boehner wants to hold back on immigration reform, because Obama is not following the law. He's acting like he doesn't need congress.

King Obama is not a king!

I'm not taking sides on this, I just think this is what happens when you have a weak leader.

You still have to admit you didn't know that Congress is made up of the senate and the house

ScrollDog · 07-01-2014, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Oh my god Becky.

Obama is trying to fix the problem and Congress is doing.... nothing. As usual.

Congress needs to have a re-write on their terms and Obama needs to get the fuck out of office! We need to reformat our government before it's too damn late and everyone in office thinks that socialism is the right way and removal of our freedom is the only thing to do on a boring sunny afternoon. Jesus christers!

bronco67 · 07-01-2014, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Except it's a problem that Obama created, that's what a lot of people think

House Speaker John Boehner, who plainly wants immigration reform to get done, was reduced to claiming that Congress couldn’t act to pass a new law so long as Obama kept changing the current ones by fiat.

The argument didn’t entirely make sense given that reform could kick in after Obama leaves and, in any event, Obama without congressional action would continue to act unilaterally and cast the Republicans as anti-immigrant.

That changed when thousands rushed to our border, including flocks of unaccompanied minors. A GOP senior aide remarked to me, “I think it is fair to say that his executive order on DREAM-ers is partially if not fully responsible for the current humanitarian crisis.” The aide contends Obama’s announcement that he will shift resources to the border “is largely a ruse to give him more space for executive action to ease up on the deportations, which again is only going to make the problem worse and not better.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...lines-further/

It would be nice if you actually knew anything about what you post about

God, you are so full of shit. All congress (The republican ruled House) wants to do is get through the midterms without taking any political risks -- especially immigration reform. So don't act like John Boehner wants to do anything. What has he gotten passed? Anything of note? Anything that helps the middle class? The current congress has done next to nothing since its inception, and that's a fact. Obama just welcomed them to do SOMETHING in a speech yesterday. They still won't do anything except try to obstruct -- or sue, which is ridiculous since Obama has passed less executive orders than any other president. Those Republicans in congress are ruled by the Tea Party and are lazy shitbirds.

It's obvious you get all of your information from vitriolic opinion pieces on conservative rags. Did anything in Obama's recent speech say he didn't want to work with Congress? Did you even watch it?

crockett · 07-01-2014, 05:56 PM

Obama assumed office in 2009. Fast and Furious was on going on since 2006. Yet it's all Obama's fault.

It's also a known fact that the DEA made a deal with the Sinaloa cartel back in 2000 that allowed them to get drugs through the boarder in exchange for info on the other cartels. Once again a problem which was created during the Bush administration yet somehow it's all Obama's fault.

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The first known ATF "gunwalking" operation to Mexican drug cartels, named Operation Wide Receiver, began in early 2006 and ran into late 2007. Licensed dealer Mike Detty of Mad Dawg Global informed the ATF of a suspicious gun purchase that took place in February 2006 in Tucson, Arizona. In March he was hired as a confidential informant working with the ATF's Tucson office, part of their Phoenix, Arizona field division.[31]

Thanks Obama!

Rochard · 07-01-2014, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett

Obama assumed office in 2009. Fast and Furious was on going on since 2006. Yet it's all Obama's fault.

It's also a known fact that the DEA made a deal with the Sinaloa cartel back in 2000 that allowed them to get drugs through the boarder in exchange for info on the other cartels. Once again a problem which was created during the Bush administration yet somehow it's all Obama's fault.

Thanks Obama!

Doesn't matter. They'll just point the fingers at Obama and cut and paste some nonsense to back it up.

Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Doesn't matter. They'll just point the fingers at Obama and cut and paste some nonsense to back it up.

Fuck you shit head, I'm not the one that thought that Congress was the same as the house of representatives dip shit.

Fucking moron arguing about shit he knows nothing about!!

Vendzilla · 07-01-2014, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67

God, you are so full of shit. All congress (The republican ruled House) wants to do is get through the midterms without taking any political risks -- especially immigration reform. So don't act like John Boehner wants to do anything. What has he gotten passed? Anything of note? Anything that helps the middle class? The current congress has done next to nothing since its inception, and that's a fact. Obama just welcomed them to do SOMETHING in a speech yesterday. They still won't do anything except try to obstruct -- or sue, which is ridiculous since Obama has passed less executive orders than any other president. Those Republicans in congress are ruled by the Tea Party and are lazy shitbirds.

It's obvious you get all of your information from vitriolic opinion pieces on conservative rags. Did anything in Obama's recent speech say he didn't want to work with Congress? Did you even watch it?

Wow, do you ever read?

I post from the daily beast and you say I'm looking at opinion pieces on conservative blogs?

Thedailybeast is ranked about 17th overall for liberal websites
http://wittymisfitsinc.wordpress.com...bsites-ranked/

I have to ask, the medicine you take for your condition, you didn't miss a couple months did you?

I love how when you haven't a clue, you pull from the liberal handbook, not having anything to add, but to blame everything on the conservatives.

I got my information from a liberal website, so try again!!

Rochard · 07-01-2014, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

Fuck you shit head, I'm not the one that thought that Congress was the same as the house of representatives dip shit.

Fucking moron arguing about shit he knows nothing about!!

"Fuck you shithead"? What are you, six?

I said the Senate passed the immigration bill, but that Congress had not. This is in fact correct. I'm sorry, let me dumb it down for you a bit.... "The Senate passed the immigration bill, but THE REST OF CONGRESS HAS NOT".

2MuchMark · 07-01-2014, 10:23 PM

You know Vendy, at the very least, you should not pay any more attention to anything that that lazy fuck John Boehner says. The man is shit. He can't or won't do his fucking job because the tea party has him by his shrivelled balls, but instead of stand up for himself he decides to threaten Obama with a lawsuit for doing HIS job. LOL! No wonder Obama is so happy lately. That has to be the most stupid thing that hack Boehner has ever said, and Obama's calling him out on it again and again since the weekend.

I expect alot more of this in the next few days:

I don't know much about the F&F scandal, but if Boehner says its true, then it has to be false. It's just one of a dozen attempts to make Barracky-baby look bad.

Matt 26z · 07-02-2014, 01:41 PM

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murders jumped from 300 to more than 3,000.

2,700 less people the public, police, courts and prisons need to worry about.

PR_Glen · 07-02-2014, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla

You talk to any 1%er and you will find that kind of stuff on that show just doesn't happen.

It would have to be at a government level for this to happen.

Oh wait, that was season 4 I think? LOL

Although I'm sure that is true, it's a tv show for fuck sakes, I assure you they wouldn't go squawking to a civilian about ANY of their activities either, no matter how well they know you..

trevesty · 07-02-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

Although I'm sure that is true, it's a tv show for fuck sakes, I assure you they wouldn't go squawking to a civilian about ANY of their activities either, no matter how well they know you..

Yeah.. If you're not patched or an extremely close associate, they just do toy drives and love motorcycles. American made ones in particular.

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2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 48,650	You know Vendy, at the very least, you should not pay any more attention to anything that that lazy fuck John Boehner says. The man is shit. He can't or won't do his fucking job because the tea party has him by his shrivelled balls, but instead of stand up for himself he decides to threaten Obama with a lawsuit for doing HIS job. LOL! No wonder Obama is so happy lately. That has to be the most stupid thing that hack Boehner has ever said, and Obama's calling him out on it again and again since the weekend. I expect alot more of this in the next few days: I don't know much about the F&F scandal, but if Boehner says its true, then it has to be false. It's just one of a dozen attempts to make Barracky-baby look bad. __________________ Custom Software \| Server Management \| Integration and Technology Solutions https://www.2much.net Last edited by 2MuchMark; 07-01-2014 at 10:25 PM..