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Old 07-28-2014, 12:10 PM   #1
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Amazons new feature "3D print shit now store"

http://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=8323871011


Now you can make custom 3d printed shit you dont need olol



"Browse a variety of 3D printed products including Jewelry, home decor, tech accessories, and more."
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What would cool is if you could upload your own designs, or one's you've gotten from online and get them printed.
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What would cool is if you could upload your own designs, or one's you've gotten from online and get them printed.
That's only a few steps away... And that will change how we make and buy stuff.
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That's only a few steps away... And that will change how we make and buy stuff.
No that much. The inventory is just in the form of ready models, like big catalogue now, unless you make your own model. However, sculpting and wood work is already invented quite some time ago to make stuff without Chinese sweatshops.
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Very nice idea, I bet soon you can find a 3d printing booth in Walmart
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No that much. The inventory is just in the form of ready models, like big catalogue now, unless you make your own model. However, sculpting and wood work is already invented quite some time ago to make stuff without Chinese sweatshops.
Rochard is absolutely right on this.
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That's only a few steps away... And that will change how we make and buy stuff.
You can do it right now, you just have to know where to look. Thankfully Google can be quite helpful. It's not even a few steps away.

AMAZON doing so, would be the game changer.
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Rochard is absolutely right on this.
How? Changing catalog of products to catalog of models is not that different, especially in webshop, where you can't see the physical product anyway. Mostly this affects to maintaining stock, but even now manufacturing by order (make to order, MTO) is used for example for cars. You get a set of options and "build" your own car.
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How? Changing catalog of products to catalog of models is not that different, especially in webshop, where you can't see the physical product anyway. Mostly this affects to maintaining stock, but even now manufacturing by order (make to order, MTO) is used for example for cars. You get a set of options and "build" your own car.
How does stock come into play at all, with regards to printing custom one off pieces?
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How does stock come into play at all, with regards to printing custom one off pieces?
In cars or with 3D printing? With cars there is always at least the basic blocks, but 3D printing enables stockless trade, if you don't count the materials (well, you have to count the materials if you are shop keeper).


But literally I said (and meant) it affects maintaining stock, I didn't specify how. I just implied about the change.

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How? Changing catalog of products to catalog of models is not that different, especially in webshop, where you can't see the physical product anyway. Mostly this affects to maintaining stock, but even now manufacturing by order (make to order, MTO) is used for example for cars. You get a set of options and "build" your own car.
By shortening the distance and lowering the costs between buyer and seller. 3d printing will fundamentally change manufacturing as we know it and how and where products are sourced.
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In cars or with 3D printing? With cars there is always at least the basic blocks, but 3D printing enables stockless trade, if you don't count the materials (well, you have to count the materials if you are shop keeper).


But literally I said (and meant) it affects maintaining stock, I didn't specify how. I just implied about the change.
What

It makes it easier to maintain stock as you only need the materials and not the finished products.....-...
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By shortening the distance and lowering the costs between buyer and seller. 3d printing will fundamentally change manufacturing as we know it and how and where products are sourced.
That totally depends, regarding some products yes, some don't. One criticall factor is time and the price for the machinery (3D). Bulk shipping and bulk in general is quite cheap and biggest portion for the price is labour and required profit. 3D printing some 1 cent product for the price of 1 $ doesn't make sense, unless you can print at the customers doorstep.
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It makes it easier to maintain stock as you only need the materials and not the finished products.....-...
Yes. I didn't say anything that would contradict this. Although now I will. It depends. For example what requirements there are for the storage? Some ready plastic product can withstand heat and cold and authorities doesn't much care how you store it. Some volatile raw material is a different matter. And I don't say it's volatile, but if it is.

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Yes. I didn't say anything that would contradict this. Although now I will. It depends. For example what requirements there are for the storage? Some ready plastic product can withstand heat and cold and authorities doesn't much care how you store it. Some volatile raw material is a different matter. And I don't say it's volatile, but if it is.
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At least producing that was cheap and even without 3D printing.
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That totally depends, regarding some products yes, some don't. One criticall factor is time and the price for the machinery (3D). Bulk shipping and bulk in general is quite cheap and biggest portion for the price is labour and required profit. 3D printing some 1 cent product for the price of 1 $ doesn't make sense, unless you can print at the customers doorstep.
everything depends on something. regardless, rochard was right, 3d printing will fundamentally change manufacturing. You can realize this now and make moves to be a part of that or sit back and watch it unfold. But to handwave off the this leap in tech, saying it's not going to change anything, is short sighted.

and let's not mince words, this is a profound leap forward in manufaturing technology.
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everything depends on something. regardless, rochard was right, 3d printing will fundamentally change manufacturing. You can realize this now and make moves to be a part of that or sit back and watch it unfold. But to handwave off the this leap in tech, saying it's not going to change anything, is short sighted.

and let's not mince words, this is a profound leap forward in manufaturing technology.
I just said it won't change that much, read it more literally. And I know something about manufacturing and physical products B2C. Making the product is not even the most important part of the business.

There is no really need to make some moves to be part of this. You just buy the 3D machine when and if it is profitable to do so and that's it. Like I said, the manufacturing is not the most important part. This is business, not some hype at the school yard.

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Very nice idea, I bet soon you can find a 3d printing booth in Walmart
you ever see those Key making machines at Lowes?
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So, can I give them a photo and video of, say, Olivia Wilde and they can print me a 3D version of my very own? Preferably with 3 love holes...
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So, can I give them a photo and video of, say, Olivia Wilde and they can print me a 3D version of my very own? Preferably with 3 love holes...
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I just said it won't change that much, read it more literally. And I know something about manufacturing and physical products B2C. Making the product is not even the most important part of the business.

There is no really need to make some moves to be part of this. You just buy the 3D machine when and if it is profitable to do so and that's it. Like I said, the manufacturing is not the most important part. This is business, not some hype at the school yard.
I know what you said, it was wrong. Either way, keep thinking manufacturing is not one of the most important things in, umm, manufacturing.

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I know what you said, it was wrong. Either way, keep thinking manufacturing is not one of the most important things in, umm, manufacturing.

I thought that the business model was B2C, not manufacturing. Amazon is not in the manufacturing business with it's 3D stuff, it is in B2C. I'ts shop keeper. It is service business, not manufacturing. Amazon sells services just like any shop keeper, whether they sell PDF guides (format) or hammers.

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I thought that the business model was B2C, not manufacturing. Amazon is not in the manufacturing business with it's 3D stuff, it is in B2C. I'ts shop keeper. It's service business, not manufacturing. Amazon sells services
just line any shop keeper, whether they sell PDF guides (format) or hammers.

obviously Amazon is entering the manufacturing business. (proofing my point).
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Now you can make custom 3d printed shit you dont need olol



"Browse a variety of 3D printed products including Jewelry, home decor, tech accessories, and more."

Cool stuff, but the cost for those items is straight up dumb.

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obviously Amazon is entering the manufacturing business. (proofing my point).
The business model is still not manufacturing. You can make your stuff to be sold at your own store, but that doesn't make your shop keeping as a manufacturing business.

If Amazon manufactures to other businesses, that is different matter.

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The business model is still not manufacturing. You can make your stuff to be sold at your own store, but that doesn't make your shop keeping as a manufacturing business.

If Amazon manufactures to other businesses, that is different matter.
I see where the confusion starts. Amazon does massive b2b sales. + part of what is happening will be a complete rewrite on what manufacturing is and who does it. But its very clear to me, amazon will become a manufacturer.
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I see where the confusion starts. Amazon does massive b2b sales. + part of what is happening will be a complete rewrite on what manufacturing is and who does it. But its very clear to me, amazon will become a manufacturer.
Amazon does massive B2B sales regarding what? Is there some Amazon for businesses or what? Selling some pens through it's webshop doesn't change it's business model. Unless it sells shitloads of some tablets (per customer) or something, it can't even be said that it is in B2B business.

I think that Amazon already has some factories in Asia, or at least it has reached it's influence so far regarding the manufacturing process that one could say it manufactures it's stuff, but it doesn't mean it is in manufacturing business. You know, the business model really defines what you do and where you get your money from.

But enough of this, I am done.

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Amazon does massive B2B sales regarding what? Is there some Amazon for businesses or what? Selling some pens through it's webshop doesn't change it's business model. Unless it sells shitloads of some tablets (per customer) or something, it can't even be said that it is in B2B business.

I think that Amazon already has some factories in Asia, or at least it has reached it's influence so far regarding the manufacturing process that one could say it manufactures it's stuff, but it doesn't mean it is in manufacturing business. You know, the business model really defines what you do and where you get your money from.

But enough of this, I am done.
So you think that being able to deliver a completely custom product to the customer in a timely fashion will not make a shred of difference to the market place?



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So you think that being able to deliver a completely custom product to the customer in a timely fashion will not make a shred of difference to the market place?



This is great for a laugh!
It won't change business model. And I haven't said that 3D printing doesn't make any difference. I said I am done and I really am fed up with this, but some custom product designed by customer is really just some generic shit, great for spare parts and such, but even with those brand matters. "Custom" in here is really "generic".

Yeah, you can make you custom product, but how is that any different from some 4 year old kid's clay project? Nobody buys that, they buy famous brand stuff from famous brand store.
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But enough of this, I am done.
Cool, so now you can take a breath and read this article from 6 days ago:


http://www.internetretailer.com/2014...b-online-sales

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B2B sales?the product category referred to as Business & Industrial, or B&I?are also giving Amazon?s and eBay?s own online retail sales stiff competition as the source of the top growth rate in sales, says Scot Wingo, CEO of ChannelAdvisor Corp., which helps online companies sell through Amazon, eBay and other e-marketplaces.

EBay Inc. no longer breaks out B&I growth rates, but in the fourth quarter of last year it noted that B&I sales were growing at an annual clip of 17%, compared with 12% overall for eBay.com, Wingo says. Although Amazon hasn?t broken out similar numbers, he figures that total B2B sales at AmazonSupply.com and Amazon.com are growing at rate the same or higher than Amazon.com?s overall sales. ?My educated guess would be, with Amazon growing overall in the mid-20?s, B2B there is growing in the 25% to 35% range,? he says. EBay and Amazon did not immediately return calls for comment.
Amazon's yearly b2b sales are in the $ 10s of billions and growing 25%+ per year.

Again, 3d printing will be a game changer for Amazon.
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It won't change business model. And I haven't said that 3D printing doesn't make any difference. I said I am done and I really am fed up with this, but some custom product designed by customer is really just some generic shit, great for spare parts and such, but even with those brand matters. "Custom" in here is really "generic".

Yeah, you can make you custom product, but how is that any different from some 4 year old kid's clay project? Nobody buys that, they buy famous brand stuff from famous brand store.
Ok here is an example for you.

XYZ *famous brand* sell vacuum cleaners.

Customer wants a specific colour to match their undies, size to fit in the boot of their car and to retrieve gerbils.

So XYZ is able to customise their product to match the needs of the customer and deliver it. Right now, this is not possible.

You do not seem to understand that brands will remain, the way in which they DELIVER the product to a customer is going to change. If you are unable to see that, well that is great for others who do...
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Ok here is an example for you.

XYZ *famous brand* sell vacuum cleaners.

Customer wants a specific colour to match their undies, size to fit in the boot of their car and to retrieve gerbils.

So XYZ is able to customise their product to match the needs of the customer and deliver it. Right now, this is not possible.

You do not seem to understand that brands will remain, the way in which they DELIVER the product to a customer is going to change. If you are unable to see that, well that is great for others who do...
That is not custom and I am fucking sure about that because that is almost literal school book example of something that is not custom. That is marketed as custom, but it is not.
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You do not seem to understand that brands will remain, the way in which they DELIVER the product to a customer is going to change. If you are unable to see that, well that is great for others who do...
Like I said, the manufacturing is not the most important part. And you are just making up what I understand or not, could you stop that? I haven't told a single thing about your understanding despite of your continuous insults.
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That is not custom and I am fucking sure about that because that is almost literal school book example of something that is not custom. That is marketed as custom, but it is not.
Customisation does not mean a product needs to be developed from scratch, it means a product can be tailored to match the customers needs/wants

*I am fucking sure about that*
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:57 PM   #38
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Customisation does not mean a product needs to be developed from scratch, it means a product can be tailored to match the customers needs/wants

*I am fucking sure about that*
You said custom, not customized. Having options for customer is just a matter of having necessary stock or making "make to order". Having something 3D printed with predefined options and maybe some real custom option (like colour) is just "make to order".

I said that 3D printing won't change that much, because all that is allready invented and in use. 3D printing is just another way to do it and sometimes better, sometimes not.
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Staples are selling 3D printers but they are cheap crap not worth even trying
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Staples are selling 3D printers but they are cheap crap not worth even trying
what are the good ones out there?
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