"Fast and Furious" Pirate gets jail time. - GoFuckYourself.com

L-Pink · 08-25-2014, 01:56 PM

Good for him ?..

A computer programmer who filmed Fast & Furious 6 from the back of a cinema and then uploaded it to the Internet has been jailed for almost three years.

The pirated copy of the film was downloaded 779,000 times, costing one of Hollywood?s biggest filmmakers more than $4 million.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/man-who-p...732715549.html

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MaDalton · 08-25-2014, 01:57 PM

where's that Gideon dude when you need him

(for a 10 page thread)

edit: maybe DamianJ can take over

TeenCat · 08-25-2014, 01:59 PM

so they calculated the price of movie and number of downloaded times, and then they found out how big damage it made? i would say maybe one percent of the people will go to watch it in the cinema, the rest just downloaded, saved to hdd and never will watch it anyway, as most of the people are doing

but yeah, three years of jail ...

AdultKing · 08-25-2014, 02:00 PM

Well deserved, there should be more examples like this

Seth Manson · 08-25-2014, 02:25 PM

Should put the downloaders in jail as well.

blackmonsters · 08-25-2014, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Good for him ?..

A computer programmer who filmed Fast & Furious 6 from the back of a cinema and then uploaded it to the Internet has been jailed for almost three years.

The pirated copy of the film was downloaded 779,000 times, costing one of Hollywood?s biggest filmmakers more than $4 million.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/man-who-p...732715549.html

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L-Pink posting news.

blackmonsters · 08-25-2014, 02:32 PM

I'm sure Al Sharpton will get right on this.

Bladewire · 08-25-2014, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

so they calculated the price of movie and number of downloaded times, and then they found out how big damage it made? i would say maybe one percent of the people will go to watch it in the cinema, the rest just downloaded, saved to hdd and never will watch it anyway, as most of the people are doing

but yeah, three years of jail ...

He stole it and uploaded it on release day. That's damaging.

My sites, and other sites, have a thief that steals the day of a new update and uploads to file lockers. They haven't been taught to give a shit and they don't care about putting hard working small studios out of business. They think every studio is rich and can afford to give away everything for free

Oh and then the people who download the stolen videos email us and ask for custom stuff and what they want to see in the future. When asked for member info, either silence or say they didn't pay lol

L-Pink · 08-25-2014, 02:33 PM

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L-Pink posting news.

Shit, I forgot, you have to be Black or British to post news.

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dillonaire · 08-25-2014, 02:35 PM

Greatest movie series ever!!

PiracyPitbull · 08-25-2014, 02:45 PM

Christopher Loach, defending, said: "He has no real qualifications and is not a man of means. He has no substantial assets of any sort,"

"his real motive was “street cred.”

Jeez, nothing to his name and motivated by street cred - what a useless twat.

ottopottomouse · 08-25-2014, 02:50 PM

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Shit, I forgot, you have to be Black or British to post news.

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Maybe you've caught one or the other. Are you finding yourself with a sudden craving for some fried chicken and a spot of looting, or a cup of tea and a game of cricket?

L-Pink · 08-25-2014, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Maybe you've caught one or the other. Are you finding yourself with a sudden craving for some fried chicken and a spot of looting, or a cup of tea and a game of cricket?

Both, I've started to chase fat white girls and stopped brushing my teeth.

baddog · 08-25-2014, 03:02 PM

Whomever did the same with The Expendables 3 should start sweating bullets

420 · 08-25-2014, 03:09 PM

How can the number of people downloading shit quality movies equal lost revenue? Those people could decide to see it in theaters for a number of reasons.

Ferus · 08-25-2014, 03:34 PM

As long as Hollywood can pay a crappy actor +50 millions for one movie, there are no Movie Crisis

/end of story

SilentKnight · 08-25-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Both, I've started to chase fat white girls and stopped brushing my teeth.

blackmonsters · 08-25-2014, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 420

How can the number of people downloading shit quality movies equal lost revenue? Those people could decide to see it in theaters for a number of reasons.

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MrBottomTooth · 08-25-2014, 03:51 PM

If they want to stop losing revenue they should worry more about the early 12+gb rips with dts master audio, rather than these unwatchable cam leaks. You'd think they would have come up with a way to trace the leak source of these high quality rips by now.

JFK · 08-25-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog

Whomever did the same with The Expendables 3 should start sweating bullets

what happened there ? I caught the tail end of sound bite, but haven't seen it since ?

_Richard_ · 08-25-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

If they want to stop losing revenue they should worry more about the early 12+gb rips with dts master audio, rather than these unwatchable cam leaks. You'd think they would have come up with a way to trace the leak source of these high quality rips by now.

but, i suppose now they have the precedent of equating downloads directly to lost revenue, if they didn't have it before

nico-t · 08-25-2014, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferus

As long as Hollywood can pay a crappy actor +50 millions for one movie, there are no Movie Crisis

/end of story

exactly... comparison with adult is mute... because nobody gives a fuck about adult. Kinda surprised porn peddlers cheer this on like it's gonna change anything for them. Not gonna happen guys, hollywood has deep pockets and they only care about their own $100 million making crapfest CGI shit. The love isn't mutual.

Dead · 08-25-2014, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Both, I've started to chase fat white girls and stopped brushing my teeth.

3 years is a bit harsh for working a camcorder,....and I am hearing Benny Hill theme music...this thread sucks

2MuchMark · 08-25-2014, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TeenCat

so they calculated the price of movie and number of downloaded times, and then they found out how big damage it made? i would say maybe one percent of the people will go to watch it in the cinema, the rest just downloaded, saved to hdd and never will watch it anyway, as most of the people are doing

but yeah, three years of jail ...

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Originally Posted by 420

How can the number of people downloading shit quality movies equal lost revenue? Those people could decide to see it in theaters for a number of reasons.

If the movie was download 779,000 times, this is at least 779,000 people who wanted to see it, and should have paid the typical price of a movie to see it ($15.00). The thief's recording means that $11,685,000 in lost potential initial revenue, not including the sales of drinks and popcorn that the theatres depend on, and not including people who might pay to see it again, and not including sales of DVD or Blueray, and not including licensing to TV movie channels and TV stations in the future.

The guy knew exactly what he was doing. He stole, he sold, he profited.

I'm glad he's going to jail for 3 years.

Phoenix · 08-25-2014, 06:34 PM

mega what?

mineistaken · 08-25-2014, 06:43 PM

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Shit, I forgot, you have to be Black or British to post news.
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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Maybe you've caught one or the other. Are you finding yourself with a sudden craving for some fried chicken and a spot of looting, or a cup of tea and a game of cricket?

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Both, I've started to chase fat white girls and stopped brushing my teeth.

mineistaken · 08-25-2014, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

If the movie was download 779,000 times, this is at least 779,000 people who wanted to see it, and should have paid the typical price of a movie to see it ($15.00). The thief's recording means that $11,685,000 in lost potential initial revenue, not including the sales of drinks and popcorn that the theatres depend on, and not including people who might pay to see it again, and not including sales of DVD or Blueray, and not including licensing to TV movie channels and TV stations in the future.

The guy knew exactly what he was doing. He stole, he sold, he profited.

I'm glad he's going to jail for 3 years.

I thought pirates do it for free, not profit

As for 779000. How can you say all those would go to the cinema? Absolute majority just downloaded because it was available, they wouldn't go to cinema otherwise for that movie.
Add to the fact that the ones who would actually go to cinema would not spoil the fun by watching crappy CAM copy...
1-3% max out of those 779K (especially if it is worldwide number) could have been movie goer otherwise.

420 · 08-25-2014, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by **********

If the movie was download 779,000 times, this is at least 779,000 people who wanted to see it, and should have paid the typical price of a movie to see it ($15.00). The thief's recording means that $11,685,000 in lost potential initial revenue, not including the sales of drinks and popcorn that the theatres depend on, and not including people who might pay to see it again, and not including sales of DVD or Blueray, and not including licensing to TV movie channels and TV stations in the future.

The guy knew exactly what he was doing. He stole, he sold, he profited.

I'm glad he's going to jail for 3 years.

779,000 downloads does not equal 779,000 people paying for a ticket. Some of those people would wait to see it on dvd or cable. Some people will be annoyed with the quality and go to the theater. Others will use the downloaded copy as a preview to see if it is worth watching in theaters. A cam copy of a movie is not going to affect sales that much unless the movie is terrible.

Dead · 08-25-2014, 07:02 PM

User preview, nothing more, nothing less. Some of us hate the theater all together and have not spent a dollar on it in 15 years. this number is bullshit and the makers know it.

L-Pink · 08-25-2014, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dead

User preview, nothing more, nothing less. Some of us hate the theater all together and have not spent a dollar on it in 15 years. this number is bullshit and the makers know it.

I'm sure his unrepentant attitude had a lot to do with his sentencing.

sandman! · 08-25-2014, 07:20 PM

Dead · 08-25-2014, 07:20 PM

Oh yea, he will be made into a poster be sure

Dead · 08-25-2014, 07:22 PM

Fuck him,,,do the crime,...blah blah.....bottom line was not hurt from these producers, not even scratched

F-U-Jimmy · 08-25-2014, 07:24 PM

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Both, I've started to chase fat white girls and stopped brushing my teeth.

So your in Maine then ?

dezmondel · 08-25-2014, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink

Good for him ?..

The pirated copy of the film was downloaded 779,000 times, costing one of Hollywood?s biggest filmmakers more than $4 million.

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what a stupid claim... as mentioned already most of those people wouldn't have watched in theaters anyway.... or ever, and most of 'em just want to show off to their friends that they saw it first.

but just for shits & giggles lets assume for a second that Universal and a handful of filthy ass rich people lost 4 mill...

worldwide the movie has made $789,945,175 (source)... what the fuck is 4 mill next to almost 800?

pirates exist only in Neverland ;]

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Phoenix · 08-25-2014, 07:30 PM

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what a stupid claim... as mentioned already most of those people wouldn't have watched in theaters anyway.... or ever, and most of 'em just want to show off to their friends that they saw it first.

but just for shits & giggles lets assume for a second that Universal and a handful of filthy ass rich people lost 4 mill...

worldwide the movie has made $789,945,175 (source)... what the fuck is 4 mill next to almost 800?

pirates exist only in Neverland ;]

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your reasoning is that...because they didn't want to pay to see it...it is ok to steal it.
Based on the sound logic that they did not want to pay to see it.
Wait...what? If they did not want to pay to see it.. They should not see it.....

Also you think the crime only extends to a few rich people...so screw them?

my mind is blown.....i had no idea thievery had now become the normal way of thinking.

dezmondel · 08-25-2014, 07:48 PM

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plz don't misunderstand me Phoenix... I'm an independent artist, and piracy is keeping me well bellow the poverty level... at least I can be cynical about it...

but look at how much mula that movie made... is it that bad to make some poor schmuck's day who can't afford to cough up $15 for a movie ticket and $20 for a small popcorn? ...or doesn't even have a theater in his town?

the world should not be so concerned about pennies & dimes, cos otherwise the wars that plague it will never stop.

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nikki99 · 08-25-2014, 07:49 PM

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Well deserved, there should be more examples like this

dezmondel · 08-25-2014, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

my mind is blown.....i had no idea thievery had now become the normal way of thinking.

sadly Phoenix this is the standard thinking on the net these days, and probably been so for a good while.

you'd be surprised to know that most fans of erotic 3D animation think that it's all free (and this probably applies to live content as well) and they have a hard time understanding the need of having to pay for it.

FREE is a very hard offer to beat for independent artists... but this is what we gotta deal with these days... either this or back to truck driving ;]

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Seth Manson · 08-25-2014, 09:49 PM

Pretty easy to tell which people support stealing in this thread. I blame your parents for not doing their job and teaching you better.

Captain Kawaii · 08-25-2014, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Squirtit

He stole it and uploaded it on release day. That's damaging.

My sites, and other sites, have a thief that steals the day of a new update and uploads to file lockers. They haven't been taught to give a shit and they don't care about putting hard working small studios out of business. They think every studio is rich and can afford to give away everything for free

Oh and then the people who download the stolen videos email us and ask for custom stuff and what they want to see in the future. When asked for member info, either silence or say they didn't pay lol

We get the same shit. They are out of their thieving fucking minds. I am glad the guy got time. Too bad I can't order up a thousand ass rapes for him as well.

blackmonsters · 08-26-2014, 12:25 AM

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plz don't misunderstand me Phoenix... I'm an independent artist, and piracy is keeping me well bellow the poverty level... at least I can be cynical about it...

but look at how much mula that movie made... is it that bad to make some poor schmuck's day who can't afford to cough up $15 for a movie ticket and $20 for a small popcorn? ...or doesn't even have a theater in his town?

the world should not be so concerned about pennies & dimes, cos otherwise the wars that plague it will never stop.

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If a man can get shot 4 times in the arm, once in the face and once again through the top of his head over 4 cigars then why not?

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Drake · 08-26-2014, 12:27 AM

How much time do you think he'll actually spend behind bars?

dezmondel · 08-26-2014, 12:40 AM

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ain't that the truth?

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RandazzoXXX · 08-26-2014, 12:46 AM

He committed copyright infringement. It is a CIVIL MATTER and NOT a criminal matter. He should have been sued, not arrested. Dumbfucks supporting this are the same morons who smoke weed and then vote for politicians who think they're criminals and want to put them in jail. Fucking morons.

blackmonsters · 08-26-2014, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RandazzoXXX

He committed copyright infringement. It is a CIVIL MATTER and NOT a criminal matter. He should have been sued, not arrested. Dumbfucks supporting this are the same morons who smoke weed and then vote for politicians who think they're criminals and want to put them in jail. Fucking morons.

Copyright infringement has been criminal for a long time.
Stop listening to dumbfucks who don't know the law.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2319

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b) Any person who commits an offense under section 506 (a)(1)(A) of title 17?
(1) shall be imprisoned not more than 5 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense consists of the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of at least 10 copies or phonorecords, of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $2,500;

(2) shall be imprisoned not more than 10 years, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, if the offense is a felony and is a second or subsequent offense under subsection (a); and

(3) shall be imprisoned not more than 1 year, or fined in the amount set forth in this title, or both, in any other case.

AdultKing · 08-26-2014, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RandazzoXXX

He committed copyright infringement. It is a CIVIL MATTER and NOT a criminal matter. He should have been sued, not arrested. Dumbfucks supporting this are the same morons who smoke weed and then vote for politicians who think they're criminals and want to put them in jail. Fucking morons.

Are you retarded, a pirate or both ?

(that's a rhetorical question btw)

TeenCat · 08-26-2014, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

I thought pirates do it for free, not profit

As for 779000. How can you say all those would go to the cinema? Absolute majority just downloaded because it was available, they wouldn't go to cinema otherwise for that movie.
Add to the fact that the ones who would actually go to cinema would not spoil the fun by watching crappy CAM copy...
1-3% max out of those 779K (especially if it is worldwide number) could have been movie goer otherwise.

this is it. it is not like 779k people wants to see the movie and if its not available for free they will pay for it ... some of you guys have to learn how warez and piracy from surfers point of view works anyway, thinking 779k will pay for the movie is just ill ...

Captain Kawaii · 08-26-2014, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson

Should put the downloaders in jail as well.

Naw, they should get a bill or lose internet for 30 days. A little bite...but a bite.

Jesse1984 · 08-26-2014, 05:25 AM

Total garbage. I didn't read the rest of the thread past the first few replies to see if someone already said this but:

1. This did not COST the studio over $4 Million, it represents a potential loss of $4 Million, on the assumption that everyone of those ~800k people would have gone to the theatre and paid full price for the movie. Additionally, unless they polled all of those people, they have no clue how much they actually lost, so in calculating the damages they basically used made up math, like they have since the beginning of charging piraters with crimes.

2. It has been proven time and time again that people who download things often do so as a preview and then will purchase, rent, and or go see the media live [music, movies, or TV.]

3. This was the sixth movie in a franchise, can you blame them for wanting to make sure it didn't suck before going to see it? How many movies can't even get a sequel right, let alone a sixth instalment.

4. It was a Cam version, those are horrific generally and I bet most of those ~800k people didn't even make it halfway through, but if they liked what they saw, they probably shelled out the $$ to go see it in theatres to get the true experience.

5. Let every one of you who hasn't recorded shows off the TV onto VHS back in the day, made mix tapes off the radio back in the day, or downloaded a single thing illegally cast the first stone.

Piracy is not the same as theft. Potential loss is not the same as true cost. Piracy does not always equal lost revenue, often it's a preview. Taking away six years of a person's life for wanting to share content which he's not making a dime off of and you being joyful about it in a forum, is pretty pathetic when most of you break other laws, download yourself, or have pirated content in the past through other mediums before the internet.

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L-Pink working on my tan Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Florida/Kentucky Posts: 39,152	"Fast and Furious" Pirate gets jail time. Good for him ?.. A computer programmer who filmed Fast & Furious 6 from the back of a cinema and then uploaded it to the Internet has been jailed for almost three years. The pirated copy of the film was downloaded 779,000 times, costing one of Hollywood?s biggest filmmakers more than $4 million. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/man-who-p...732715549.html .

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420 cuck Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 11,571	How can the number of people downloading shit quality movies equal lost revenue? Those people could decide to see it in theaters for a number of reasons.

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MrBottomTooth Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,795	If they want to stop losing revenue they should worry more about the early 12+gb rips with dts master audio, rather than these unwatchable cam leaks. You'd think they would have come up with a way to trace the leak source of these high quality rips by now.

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Dead They left the door open Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,450	User preview, nothing more, nothing less. Some of us hate the theater all together and have not spent a dollar on it in 15 years. this number is bullshit and the makers know it.

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dezmondel 3D animator Industry Role: Join Date: May 2012 Location: emerald city Posts: 141	. plz don't misunderstand me Phoenix... I'm an independent artist, and piracy is keeping me well bellow the poverty level... at least I can be cynical about it... but look at how much mula that movie made... is it that bad to make some poor schmuck's day who can't afford to cough up $15 for a movie ticket and $20 for a small popcorn? ...or doesn't even have a theater in his town? the world should not be so concerned about pennies & dimes, cos otherwise the wars that plague it will never stop. . __________________ ♠ Stone-Sorceress.com ♠ On Patreon ♠

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Seth Manson Please dont fuck animals Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 3,988	Pretty easy to tell which people support stealing in this thread. I blame your parents for not doing their job and teaching you better.

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RandazzoXXX Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 141	He committed copyright infringement. It is a CIVIL MATTER and NOT a criminal matter. He should have been sued, not arrested. Dumbfucks supporting this are the same morons who smoke weed and then vote for politicians who think they're criminals and want to put them in jail. Fucking morons.

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Jesse1984 Web Viking Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: San Francisco Posts: 562	Total garbage. I didn't read the rest of the thread past the first few replies to see if someone already said this but: 1. This did not COST the studio over $4 Million, it represents a potential loss of $4 Million, on the assumption that everyone of those ~800k people would have gone to the theatre and paid full price for the movie. Additionally, unless they polled all of those people, they have no clue how much they actually lost, so in calculating the damages they basically used made up math, like they have since the beginning of charging piraters with crimes. 2. It has been proven time and time again that people who download things often do so as a preview and then will purchase, rent, and or go see the media live [music, movies, or TV.] 3. This was the sixth movie in a franchise, can you blame them for wanting to make sure it didn't suck before going to see it? How many movies can't even get a sequel right, let alone a sixth instalment. 4. It was a Cam version, those are horrific generally and I bet most of those ~800k people didn't even make it halfway through, but if they liked what they saw, they probably shelled out the $$ to go see it in theatres to get the true experience. 5. Let every one of you who hasn't recorded shows off the TV onto VHS back in the day, made mix tapes off the radio back in the day, or downloaded a single thing illegally cast the first stone. Piracy is not the same as theft. Potential loss is not the same as true cost. Piracy does not always equal lost revenue, often it's a preview. Taking away six years of a person's life for wanting to share content which he's not making a dime off of and you being joyful about it in a forum, is pretty pathetic when most of you break other laws, download yourself, or have pirated content in the past through other mediums before the internet.