Reddit ... Double Standards - GoFuckYourself.com

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 04:26 AM

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/celeb-pics-reddit-gold/

It's okay for Reddit to make money off of stolen content but the moment anyone else submits a link that has a 'tiny' ad somewhere on the page (even if the content is highly relevant) to a subreddit, they drop the BAN hammer and create new subreddit rules to stop those 'horrible' spammers.

Google, Youtube, FB, Reddit, Tumblr ... all profit from other people's content yet look down on anyone who wants to also make money.

jigga · 09-18-2014, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/celeb-pics-reddit-gold/

It's okay for Reddit to make money off of stolen content but the moment anyone else submits a link that has a 'tiny' ad somewhere on the page (even if the content is highly relevant) to a subreddit, they drop the BAN hammer and create new subreddit rules to stop those 'horrible' spammers.

Google, Youtube, FB, Reddit, Tumblr ... all profit from other people's content yet look down on anyone who wants to also make money.

As I understand, most subreddits (if not all) aren't run by employees but rather mods who just do it for fun, and many people that choose to be mods for fun usually do it because they enjoy the power trip.

Harmon · 09-18-2014, 04:42 AM

I admin a few popular subreddits and I allow advertising... by me only. If somebody tries to invade my turf I will drop the ban hammer. If anybody is going to make money on my subreddit, it's going to be me.

xxxjay · 09-18-2014, 05:12 AM

Reddit is dumb

beenthereb4 · 09-18-2014, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jigga

As I understand, most subreddits (if not all) aren't run by employees but rather mods who just do it for fun, and many people that choose to be mods for fun usually do it because they enjoy the power trip.

This is very true . Lot of wanna be website owners that can't afford a website .

tornell · 09-18-2014, 06:31 AM

I agree ....

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Originally Posted by mopek1

http://www.wired.com/2014/09/celeb-pics-reddit-gold/

It's okay for Reddit to make money off of stolen content but the moment anyone else submits a link that has a 'tiny' ad somewhere on the page (even if the content is highly relevant) to a subreddit, they drop the BAN hammer and create new subreddit rules to stop those 'horrible' spammers.

Google, Youtube, FB, Reddit, Tumblr ... all profit from other people's content yet look down on anyone who wants to also make money.

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jigga

As I understand, most subreddits (if not all) aren't run by employees but rather mods who just do it for fun, and many people that choose to be mods for fun usually do it because they enjoy the power trip.

The power trip part is right.

I know that the subreddits are run by mods who are not employees who can run the reddits however they like but it is the CULTURE of reddit that has spread throughout all users,mods,employees etc...

Ads are bad. Unless Reddit makes money.

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

I admin a few popular subreddits and I allow advertising... by me only. If somebody tries to invade my turf I will drop the ban hammer. If anybody is going to make money on my subreddit, it's going to be me.

What's the ratio of your posts to post count overall?

I see nothing wrong with this but how do you make sure Reddit doesn't see what you are doing and ban you. On their Reddiquette page they say they don't want you to submit only or mostly your sites.

Sly · 09-18-2014, 07:11 AM

Surely you aren't suggesting that a site populated by social misfits doesn't know how to play "fairly."

Marcus Aurelius · 09-18-2014, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

I admin a few popular subreddits and I allow advertising... by me only. If somebody tries to invade my turf I will drop the ban hammer. If anybody is going to make money on my subreddit, it's going to be me.

Same.

It's funny you have to explain these simple things on a webmaster board.

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly

Surely you aren't suggesting that a site populated by social misfits doesn't know how to play "fairly."

Never ...

lezinterracial · 09-18-2014, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

I see nothing wrong with this but how do you make sure Reddit doesn't see what you are doing and ban you.

One link in the description using a url shortener. Then allow only imgur links for posts.

If you really want to corner the market, Send full length vids posted to report piracy.

_Richard_ · 09-18-2014, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

I admin a few popular subreddits and I allow advertising... by me only. If somebody tries to invade my turf I will drop the ban hammer. If anybody is going to make money on my subreddit, it's going to be me.

Captain Kawaii · 09-18-2014, 08:45 AM

Where are all the reddit asshats crying foul?

Great comments in that wired piece. Considering reddit and wired are owned by the same tools.

trevesty · 09-18-2014, 08:50 AM

This is without any submissions to Reddit this month and only 4 total for the site(by me anyways...)

You guys keep hating Reddit - I'm cool with it. ;)

dicknipples · 09-18-2014, 10:11 AM

In This Thread: fool doesn't understand reddit and gets mad because he can't spam reddit.

trevesty · 09-18-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser Koopa

In This Thread: fool doesn't understand reddit and gets mad because he can't spam reddit.

oppoten · 09-18-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Google, Youtube, FB, Reddit, Tumblr ... all profit from other people's content yet look down on anyone who wants to also make money.

Welcome to the Jewish web.

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser Koopa

In This Thread: fool doesn't understand reddit and gets mad because he can't spam reddit.

I actually do spam reddit.

I am mad not because I can't spam, but because larger internet entities use theft and other people's content to build themselves up. Once they are big (and often even before) they suddenly become 'moral' and look down upon 'spammers' which is a loosely based term in their view to mean 'a person looking to make money other than us'.

Even if that person contributes to the site in a relevant and engaging manner it doesn't matter. He is labelled one of those dirty, disgusting 'spammers' that we need to rid the internet of.

It is this double talk I dislike from all the bigger sites now-a-days.

It is pure propaganda to make the general public believe that anyone who tries to make money (other than them of course) is 'bad' and 'spamming' and disturbing the peace and just ruining it for us all.

Actual spamming like getting 100 emails on Viagra or posting make-money-work-at-home links in subreddits created for 'art appreciation' is completely understandable. But not posting a link in a relevant subreddit that happens to have a continuation of the relevant content, at the center of the page with an ad or two that are not intrusive.

So yes I am angry at them for that.

That being said I still spam them everyday along with other Social media sites and will as long as it is profitable.

shoot twice · 09-18-2014, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

It's okay for Reddit to make money off of stolen content but the moment anyone else submits a link that has a 'tiny' ad somewhere on the page (even if the content is highly relevant) to a subreddit, they drop the BAN hammer and create new subreddit rules to stop those 'horrible' spammers.

Google, Youtube, FB, Reddit, Tumblr ... all profit from other people's content yet look down on anyone who wants to also make money.

The Internet has been operating like this since before even onelist.com merged with eGroups.

Reddit is a pathetic group of adolescent masturbators. They pay for nothing and pirate everything. Then in some sort of weird online video game way they get points for disagreeing and ridiculing as many people as they can.

The only saving grace of Reddit is that if anyone has ever met any of these Reddit Losers (and I have). They would find that the average reddit user makes the "people at Walmart" look good (and almost normal)

dicknipples · 09-18-2014, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

I actually do spam reddit.

I am mad not because I can't spam, but because larger internet entities use theft and other people's content to build themselves up. Once they are big (and often even before) they suddenly become 'moral' and look down upon 'spammers' which is a loosely based term in their view to mean 'a person looking to make money other than us'.

Even if that person contributes to the site in a relevant and engaging manner it doesn't matter. He is labelled one of those dirty, disgusting 'spammers' that we need to rid the internet of.

It is this double talk I dislike from all the bigger sites now-a-days.

It is pure propaganda to make the general public believe that anyone who tries to make money (other than them of course) is 'bad' and 'spamming' and disturbing the peace and just ruining it for us all.

Actual spamming like getting 100 emails on Viagra or posting make-money-work-at-home links in subreddits created for 'art appreciation' is completely understandable. But not posting a link in a relevant subreddit that happens to have a continuation of the relevant content, at the center of the page with an ad or two that are not intrusive.

So yes I am angry at them for that.

That being said I still spam them everyday along with other Social media sites and will as long as it is profitable.

Reddit doesn't claim any content or steal any content. It's purely user generated content. The whole fucking basis of reddit is to share content from around the internet.

Stop being such a fucking whine baby and play by their rules or don't fucking play in their sandbox. It's as simple as that.

iwantchixx · 09-18-2014, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

I admin a few popular subreddits and I allow advertising... by me only. If somebody tries to invade my turf I will drop the ban hammer. If anybody is going to make money on my subreddit, it's going to be me.

Really though, that's how business operates anyways. Can't sell your hotdogs at another persons hotdog stand.

Matt 26z · 09-18-2014, 02:03 PM

If Reddit wasn't so agressive against spammers the place would have been totally overrun by spammers by now.

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice

The Internet has been operating like this since before even onelist.com merged with eGroups.

Reddit is a pathetic group of adolescent masturbators. They pay for nothing and pirate everything. Then in some sort of weird online video game way they get points for disagreeing and ridiculing as many people as they can.

The only saving grace of Reddit is that if anyone has ever met any of these Reddit Losers (and I have). They would find that the average reddit user makes the "people at Walmart" look good (and almost normal)

Yes but haven't you heard yet?

Redditors are smarter than the average God .. er I mean internet user.

Seriously though, good points.

dicknipples · 09-18-2014, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by shoot twice

The Internet has been operating like this since before even onelist.com merged with eGroups.

Reddit is a pathetic group of adolescent masturbators. They pay for nothing and pirate everything. Then in some sort of weird online video game way they get points for disagreeing and ridiculing as many people as they can.

The only saving grace of Reddit is that if anyone has ever met any of these Reddit Losers (and I have). They would find that the average reddit user makes the "people at Walmart" look good (and almost normal)

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Yes but haven't you heard yet?

Redditors are smarter than the average God .. er I mean internet user.

Seriously though, good points.

2 spammers mad that reddit isn't giving them the traffic they deserve!

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser Koopa

Reddit doesn't claim any content or steal any content.

Nobody that steals claims that they ever do!

Then what do you call making money off off other people's content? I mean that is what they do in large part by using Imgur - which by the way they own or have an interest in now so they do host content that their users take from other websites and host there.

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Originally Posted by Bowser Koopa

It's purely user generated content. The whole fucking basis of reddit is to share content from around the internet.

Right. Share OTHER PEOPLE'S content and make a profit out of it.

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Originally Posted by Bowser Koopa

Stop being such a fucking whine baby and play by their rules or don't fucking play in their sandbox. It's as simple as that.

I don't take orders from you and I don't take orders from them. What you call whining I call pointing out hypocrisy and calling them out on it.

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser Koopa

2 spammers mad that reddit isn't giving them the traffic they deserve!

That is an assumption on your part ... and not a very good one.

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z

If Reddit wasn't so agressive against spammers the place would have been totally overrun by spammers by now.

And I have no problem with actual spam. Like I said above:

"Actual spamming like getting 100 emails on Viagra or posting make-money-work-at-home links in subreddits created for 'art appreciation' is completely understandable. But not posting a link in a relevant subreddit that happens to have a continuation of the relevant content, at the center of the page with an ad or two that are not intrusive."

dicknipples · 09-18-2014, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Nobody that steals claims that they ever do!

Way to prove you don't understand or know what Reddit is. This is why you cannot get anywhere with the site.

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Then what do you call making money off off other people's content? I mean that is what they do in large part by using Imgur - which by the way they own or have an interest in now so they do host content that their users take from other websites and host there.

Imgur was created FOR Reddit by a Redditor 5 years ago, not until April of this year did Reddit actually start having any significant interest in the site other than a nice clean place for people to upload their images.

And by the way, Reddit staff does not dictate what sites can be used to host the content that is shared on Reddit. Moderators of the subreddit do.

Fucking educate yourself, man. You're a god damn fool and you're just making an even bigger ass out of yourself in this thread.

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Originally Posted by mopek1

Right. Share OTHER PEOPLE'S content and make a profit out of it.

You're so clueless and out of touch it actually makes me feel sorry for you.

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Originally Posted by mopek1

I don't take orders from you and I don't take orders from them. What you call whining I call pointing out hypocrisy and calling them out on it.

Their sandbox, their rules. Deal with it, because bitching here isn't going to change that.

I suggest you learn Reddit and learn how to game the system, because there's many here, including me who have never ran into the issues you're bitching about.

mopek1 · 09-18-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser Koopa

Way to prove you don't understand or know what Reddit is. This is why you cannot get anywhere with the site.

Imgur was created FOR Reddit by a Redditor 5 years ago, not until April of this year did Reddit actually start having any significant interest in the site other than a nice clean place for people to upload their images.

And by the way, Reddit staff does not dictate what sites can be used to host the content that is shared on Reddit. Moderators of the subreddit do.

Fucking educate yourself, man. You're a god damn fool and you're just making an even bigger ass out of yourself in this thread.

You're so clueless and out of touch it actually makes me feel sorry for you.

Their sandbox, their rules. Deal with it, because bitching here isn't going to change that.

I suggest you learn Reddit and learn how to game the system, because there's many here, including me who have never ran into the issues you're bitching about.

You joined here a few months ago and are defending Reddit like a rabid hound.

You are not responding to my posts properly therefore not reading my posts properly and obviously don't want to have a discussion, only troll, insult and sling mud.

Your lack of respect is glaring and you only have one end it seems.

I have seen this behavior before in many message boards and comment sections.

From shills.

My arguing with you is now over.

dicknipples · 09-18-2014, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1

You joined here a few months ago and are defending Reddit like a rabid hound.

You are not responding to my posts properly therefore not reading my posts properly and obviously don't want to have a discussion, only troll, insult and sling mud.

Your lack of respect is glaring and you only have one end it seems.

I have seen this behavior before in many message boards and comment sections.

From shills.

My arguing with you is now over.

09-18-2014, 04:26 AM	#1
mopek1 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 3,065	Reddit ... Double Standards http://www.wired.com/2014/09/celeb-pics-reddit-gold/ It's okay for Reddit to make money off of stolen content but the moment anyone else submits a link that has a 'tiny' ad somewhere on the page (even if the content is highly relevant) to a subreddit, they drop the BAN hammer and create new subreddit rules to stop those 'horrible' spammers. Google, Youtube, FB, Reddit, Tumblr ... all profit from other people's content yet look down on anyone who wants to also make money.

09-18-2014, 05:12 AM	#4
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09-18-2014, 07:11 AM	#9
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09-18-2014, 04:42 AM	#3
Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,000	I admin a few popular subreddits and I allow advertising... by me only. If somebody tries to invade my turf I will drop the ban hammer. If anybody is going to make money on my subreddit, it's going to be me.

09-18-2014, 08:45 AM	#14
Captain Kawaii So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 6,748	Where are all the reddit asshats crying foul? Great comments in that wired piece. Considering reddit and wired are owned by the same tools.

09-18-2014, 08:50 AM	#15
trevesty Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest Posts: 3,802	This is without any submissions to Reddit this month and only 4 total for the site(by me anyways...) You guys keep hating Reddit - I'm cool with it. ;)

09-18-2014, 10:11 AM	#16
dicknipples Formerly known as Lensman Industry Role: Join Date: May 2014 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 654	In This Thread: fool doesn't understand reddit and gets mad because he can't spam reddit.

09-18-2014, 02:03 PM	#23
Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	If Reddit wasn't so agressive against spammers the place would have been totally overrun by spammers by now.