Rant Pirate tube asking for model release, ID and 2257 after a DMCA - GoFuckYourself.com

myleene · 10-03-2014, 02:58 PM

Anyone got this before?

Am I the only one getting this or now pirate sites don't feel it's enough to blatantly steal... They have to get the content free for themselves too? Is it the new thing?

I've been threatened to get sued if a DMCA made a pirate website go offline before as the owner told me he would lose money (I wished he did). But, otherwise I've had reasonable success with DMCAs.

Anybody else got similar stories?

I do own full rights to this content.

Seth Manson · 10-03-2014, 03:01 PM

You dont have to prove that you own it to the pirate, he has to prove that he owns it to the his host, registrar, and whoever else the DMCA was sent to.

seeric · 10-03-2014, 03:05 PM

What is the site requesting this?

myleene · 10-03-2014, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson

You dont have to prove that you own it to the pirate, he has to prove that he owns it to the his host, registrar, and whoever else the DMCA was sent to.

True. And considering their size... They surely know what they're doing.

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What is the site requesting this?

CloudFlare and XVideos.

10 Inch Dick · 10-03-2014, 03:15 PM

I had DMCA once where some fucktard claimed a well known porn model was his wife and claimed I hacked into his PC. Some people are batshit crazy

blackmonsters · 10-03-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by myleene

Anyone got this before?

Am I the only one getting this or now pirate sites don't feel it's enough to blatantly steal... They have to get the content free for themselves too? Is it the new thing?

I've been threatened to get sued if a DMCA made a pirate website go offline before as the owner told me he would lose money (I wished he did). But, otherwise I've had reasonable success with DMCAs.

Anybody else got similar stories?

I do own full rights to this content.

Email them back and tell them that you charge $5k for that.

NatalieK · 10-03-2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by myleene

CloudFlare and XVideos.

I hear you should stay clear of xvideos, speak to JT regarding their affairs

We've always used xhamster & pornhub to show our movies, they also remove videos immediately when asked.

Maybe email reply in block caps, REMOVE MY CONTENT NOW PLEASE. good luck hun x

AdultKing · 10-04-2014, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by myleene

Anyone got this before?

You do not have to provide this and you should not provide this.

Please contact us at http://copycontrol.org/contact-us with full details, we'll put them back in their place and get the content removed.

You should also consider joining Adult IP http://adultip.org

Emil · 10-04-2014, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by myleene

CloudFlare and XVideos.

Cloudflare?

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Yes. The... Cloudflare.

Markul · 10-04-2014, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Emil

Cloudflare?

You can laugh, but they are making a lot of money on serving pirated content

Paully · 10-04-2014, 07:09 AM

What everybody said here is correct. Don't give them a fucking thing. If there is a dispute sometimes you have to give a little(maybe screenshot from your members area) but in no way would I give up a models name, contract, 2257.

Like Seth said said go upstream if they don't comply. Host, advertisers, registrar, upstream hosts, visa/mc etc...

ErectMedia · 10-04-2014, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson

You dont have to prove that you own it to the pirate, he has to prove that he owns it to the his host, registrar, and whoever else the DMCA was sent to.

+1

SplatterMaster · 10-04-2014, 08:14 AM

myleene · 10-04-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SplatterMaster

lol.

For now, the content is removed. They're still asking for them. They won't get them though.

DWB · 10-04-2014, 08:30 AM

Which shit bag lawyers in the biz represent them? I'm guessing the same ones at every show touting their services. Criminals, all.

Don't give them shit and sue them if they don't remove the content.

jreg81 · 10-04-2014, 11:43 AM

Glad we jumped ship on them not long ago. Their tactics are starting to add up to make me think they are about to flip a big "fuck you guys!" switch real soon.

First, they are caught targeting site brand names in their SEO to bolster their own pages with no links or videos from that brand name listed.

Then, they began to require uploaders click away intellectual rights to the videos or face deletion

Now this.

fitzmulti · 10-04-2014, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vvvvv

Yes. The... Cloudflare.

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SplatterMaster · 10-04-2014, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by myleene

lol.

For now, the content is removed. They're still asking for them. They won't get them though.

That's Lee Holloway, Matthew Prince and Michelle Zatlyn btw. The founders of CloudFlare or as some call it CrimeFlare. They even pose as pirates.

10 Inch Dick · 10-04-2014, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing

You do not have to provide this and you should not provide this.

Please contact us at http://copycontrol.org/contact-us with full details, we'll put them back in their place and get the content removed.

You should also consider joining Adult IP http://adultip.org

The fucked up part about this is even brassmonkey can send standard DMCA email from gmail account and claim he is the owner of $5 dollar video you bought from Paul Markham 10 years ago. Tube owner (those that do) emails you and requests proof and you have to look for paperwork to prove some punkass is full of shit.

AdultKing · 10-05-2014, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 Inch Dick

The fucked up part about this is even brassmonkey can send standard DMCA email from gmail account and claim he is the owner of $5 dollar video you bought from Paul Markham 10 years ago. Tube owner (those that do) emails you and requests proof and you have to look for paperwork to prove some punkass is full of shit.

The law is the law, it's not perfect (not even close) but it's all we have at the moment.

As the law stands, all you need to send is a DMCA notice as proscribed in the legislation.

k0nr4d · 10-05-2014, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

As the law stands, all you need to send is a DMCA notice as proscribed in the legislation.

Isn't it possible for someone to challenge a DMCA though? I'm not saying that's the case here - but I do know alot of these big tubes now do buy content and upload it themselves, it's not outside of the realm of possibility that they DO own rights (or at least think they own rights because they were sold them by a content broker) to certain content that someone is DMCAing...

AdultKing · 10-05-2014, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Isn't it possible for someone to challenge a DMCA though? I'm not saying that's the case here - but I do know alot of these big tubes now do buy content and upload it themselves, it's not outside of the realm of possibility that they DO own rights (or at least think they own rights because they were sold them by a content broker) to certain content that someone is DMCAing...

Yes, you can issue a counter notice to a DMCA using the proscribed process as detailed in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

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