Owner of Livejasmin is now the richest guy in Hungary - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

LeRoy · 11-05-2014, 11:48 AM

Fiddy rich Hungarians!

Maraschino · 11-05-2014, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

The new Forbes stats came out, he is now the first. The second is the owner of the Hungarian National Bank.

I guess I'm kinda proud, he started from scratch, and I guess i'm proud of that fact I was there when it's started.
I really should write a book about how Livejasmin became what it is today

got a link?

JFK · 11-05-2014, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom-LifeSelector

I am proud to be Hungarian

As am I

L-Pink · 11-05-2014, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

Would have been a better photo if it was first take with dry clothes.

Ferus · 11-05-2014, 03:20 PM

Still remember they used loli traffic sources, and even when they claimed it never happened, you could load one of their DNSservers default website, and find just that.

+ they put millions of $ in to the pocket of warez/illegal site-owners, but their bro-ness is infinet, so what does it matter

Drake · 11-05-2014, 05:32 PM

Lots of money in cams.

georgeyw · 11-05-2014, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

The new Forbes stats came out, he is now the first. The second is the owner of the Hungarian National Bank.

I guess I'm kinda proud, he started from scratch, and I guess i'm proud of that fact I was there when it's started.
I really should write a book about how Livejasmin became what it is today

No offence, but it sounds like you need to do a whole shit load of research on this company first.

katja_AWNews · 11-05-2014, 07:34 PM

I still remind me how they crashed the affiliate program, started to shave the old group of webmasters, changing terms and rules, closed forum so no gathering was possible between existing webmasters, then Mickey really pulled some stunts and made sure that we got screwed in our asses big time. Yeah I know where the profit comes from, hope you slap yourself on the chest, probably when they started you where still handing out flyers at the subway. While we did send traffic to a shitty Livejasmin with five cams and a worthless design.

Stop the ego trip, and stop being proud on a system that is established by webmaster and then dumped them like a titanic.

Want me to dig a little deeper? I am predicting this thread becomes a train wreck. Oohh wait, it already is.

katja_AWNews · 11-05-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

profits comes from horny men and women who are willing to spend money to watch webcam shows..

Where was you in line when brains were handed out?

xXXtesy10 · 11-05-2014, 10:44 PM

no answer to question livejasmine

Hanif see screen lock many site, need same affect to fuck over surfer.

DamageX · 11-06-2014, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferus

Still remember they used loli traffic sources

To be fair lots of webmasters ran "lolita" sites, until the term was no longer allowed. Legal sites, sure, but still full of girls looking underage. I never ran one, but I remember those who did telling me it was extremely profitable, compared to most other niches.

rowan · 11-06-2014, 05:11 AM

I was actually thinking earlier today that unless you happen to be super lucky and come up with a great idea that just carries you along, to become truly "successful", you really need to be a sociopath.

amitkuli · 11-06-2014, 05:30 AM

They did a good job and deserve the success

ilnjscb · 11-06-2014, 05:51 AM

He at least looks cooler than the other two

but we all know who the richest Hungarian is: George Soros

mineistaken · 11-06-2014, 06:14 AM

How much does he have and is that all from livejasmin or he has other profitable ventures?

Klen · 11-06-2014, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Katja wescort

I still remind me how they crashed the affiliate program, started to shave the old group of webmasters, changing terms and rules, closed forum so no gathering was possible between existing webmasters, then Mickey really pulled some stunts and made sure that we got screwed in our asses big time. Yeah I know where the profit comes from, hope you slap yourself on the chest, probably when they started you where still handing out flyers at the subway. While we did send traffic to a shitty Livejasmin with five cams and a worthless design.

Stop the ego trip, and stop being proud on a system that is established by webmaster and then dumped them like a titanic.

Want me to dig a little deeper? I am predicting this thread becomes a train wreck. Oohh wait, it already is.

Funny thing is,how despise somany cases of them screwing affiliates,some people still promote them like there is no any other choice.I never sent hits there as affiliate,but i did sold them traffic few times.

Shap · 11-06-2014, 07:47 AM

HOLY SHIT! They estimate he's worth 5billion euros.
http://dailynewshungary.com/porn-kin...ing-to-forbes/

mineistaken · 11-06-2014, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

HOLY SHIT! They estimate he's worth 5billion euros.
http://dailynewshungary.com/porn-kin...ing-to-forbes/

Ok, so jasmin was just singled out as the most interesting part of his protfolio, no way you can earn that much from it or from porn in general

CaptainHowdy · 11-06-2014, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Katja wescort

I still remind me how they crashed the affiliate program, started to shave the old group of webmasters, changing terms and rules, closed forum so no gathering was possible between existing webmasters, then Mickey really pulled some stunts and made sure that we got screwed in our asses big time. Yeah I know where the profit comes from, hope you slap yourself on the chest, probably when they started you where still handing out flyers at the subway. While we did send traffic to a shitty Livejasmin with five cams and a worthless design.

Stop the ego trip, and stop being proud on a system that is established by webmaster and then dumped them like a titanic.

Want me to dig a little deeper? I am predicting this thread becomes a train wreck. Oohh wait, it already is.

Very wise words ...

XXXBizXXX · 11-06-2014, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

profits comes from horny men and women who are willing to spend money to watch webcam shows..

%100 agreed, some people don't know what they're saying...

Klen · 11-06-2014, 08:40 AM

So in the end Fabian was never a porn king,he was lol

TheSquealer · 11-06-2014, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing

Our understanding is that it's not legal and we're approaching it as such.

I understand people need to make a buck and I also understand that having a firm ethical standpoint on these issues is not going to pay the bills for most people. That said, I am dedicated to pursuing these industry vampires so my position will differ from many in the industry and I am fine with that.

Companies like Exoclick, Duodecad IT Services (Jasmin) and those like them will see action taken against them eventually, at some point they will have to pay. It may not happen this year and it may not happen next year but I am sure it will happen. Meanwhile we're building our files of evidence and patiently waiting for the right time.

What you seem incapable of understanding in your zeal is that a company isn't just "advertising" somewhere for fun. Particularly when its a lot of traffic. You can't expect livejasmin to not allow ads somewhere that sends 100-1000 new members a day and just give that to cams.com or streamate or whoever causing them to lose significant market share, decreasing their operating capital, their ad budgets, their ability to buy traffic etc etc etc and giving it to their competition.

Thats like attacking mcdonalds and trying to force them to sell a hamburger for 15.00 for whatever reason when that clearly that only benefits competitors and doesn't solve the core problem.

You seem to enjoy telling yourself that ad networks are just greedy, affiliate programs are just greedy etc etc etc. No matter what you tell yourself, that doesn't change the fact that they are all competing with each other and one company suddenly performing to your unrealistic ethical standards and blocking every site you believe they should is just going to make their competition stronger and them weaker.

Use your head and just go after bad sites and stop blaming people for their ads being on those sites.

SylviaMaroon · 11-06-2014, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Katja wescort

I still remind me how they crashed the affiliate program, started to shave the old group of webmasters, changing terms and rules, closed forum so no gathering was possible between existing webmasters, then Mickey really pulled some stunts and made sure that we got screwed in our asses big time. Yeah I know where the profit comes from, hope you slap yourself on the chest, probably when they started you where still handing out flyers at the subway. While we did send traffic to a shitty Livejasmin with five cams and a worthless design.

Stop the ego trip, and stop being proud on a system that is established by webmaster and then dumped them like a titanic.

Want me to dig a little deeper? I am predicting this thread becomes a train wreck. Oohh wait, it already is.

mineistaken · 11-06-2014, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

What you seem incapable of understanding in your zeal is that a company isn't just "advertising" somewhere for fun. Particularly when its a lot of traffic. You can't expect livejasmin to not allow ads somewhere that sends 100-1000 new members a day and just give that to cams.com or streamate or whoever causing them to lose significant market share, decreasing their operating capital, their ad budgets, their ability to buy traffic etc etc etc and giving it to their competition.

Thats like attacking mcdonalds and trying to force them to sell a hamburger for 15.00 for whatever reason when that clearly that only benefits competitors and doesn't solve the core problem.

You seem to enjoy telling yourself that ad networks are just greedy, affiliate programs are just greedy etc etc etc. No matter what you tell yourself, that doesn't change the fact that they are all competing with each other and one company suddenly performing to your unrealistic ethical standards and blocking every site you believe they should is just going to make their competition stronger and them weaker.

Use your head and just go after bad sites and stop blaming people for their ads being on those sites.

Bottom line is still this: livejasmin funds piracy sites. Even if you justify it as "if they won't do it other will" that statement is still 100% accurate.

DamageX · 11-06-2014, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SylviaMaroon

Pot, meet kettle.

HiddenDoorCash · 11-06-2014, 11:46 AM

very cool!

BlackCrayon · 11-06-2014, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

What you seem incapable of understanding in your zeal is that a company isn't just "advertising" somewhere for fun. Particularly when its a lot of traffic. You can't expect livejasmin to not allow ads somewhere that sends 100-1000 new members a day and just give that to cams.com or streamate or whoever causing them to lose significant market share, decreasing their operating capital, their ad budgets, their ability to buy traffic etc etc etc and giving it to their competition.

Thats like attacking mcdonalds and trying to force them to sell a hamburger for 15.00 for whatever reason when that clearly that only benefits competitors and doesn't solve the core problem.

You seem to enjoy telling yourself that ad networks are just greedy, affiliate programs are just greedy etc etc etc. No matter what you tell yourself, that doesn't change the fact that they are all competing with each other and one company suddenly performing to your unrealistic ethical standards and blocking every site you believe they should is just going to make their competition stronger and them weaker.

Use your head and just go after bad sites and stop blaming people for their ads being on those sites.

these 'good' sites are funding the 'bad' sites. you'll never stop them as long as there is money to be made. now if all the 'good' sites worked together and didn't accept this kind of traffic, it would impact them greatly. of course in adult this would never and could never happen because there is always someone willing to take whatever kind of traffic if they can make a buck off.

TheSquealer · 11-06-2014, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Bottom line is still this: livejasmin funds piracy sites. Even if you justify it as "if they won't do it other will" that statement is still 100% accurate.

I can't disagree wtih that. My point is that one also has to be practical in the approach. You can't tell one site "stop what you are doing" where when they comply, it then gives competitors a major advantage over them. It only works when everyone stops at once and no one has an advantage. I dont see how that will happen either as the obvious end game would be to set up their own traffic network so that people can buy ads directly through the site itself. Calling everyone who displays an ad on a particular site (usually unknowingly) a scumbag and theif is hardly a productive solution. No one cares. If exoclick has good traffic, i'll buy it no matter where it comes from (note, there are what seems to be 100s of domains related piratebay and their distributed network selling traffic/displaying ads). Same with any ad network. Just as anyone else will buy those ads, but that lies about it in public.

The problem is piracy sites.
The piracy sites.
Not how they monetize traffic.
The traffic will always be monetized.

I could sit down and come up with 400 ways to monetize a sites traffic in a matter of minutes. Furthermore, there are endless ways to monetize torrent traffic itself which will fly under the radar anyway. Playing whack-a-mole with advertisers is anyway and an obvious waste of time and resources. It is the site itself, which is the problem. And when the site itself is shut down, the problem goes away.

The only real solution is to go after the sites. If the sites are "illegal" as claimed, then it shouldn't be an issue to shut them down.

TheSquealer · 11-06-2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

these 'good' sites are funding the 'bad' sites. you'll never stop them as long as there is money to be made. now if all the 'good' sites worked together and didn't accept this kind of traffic, it would impact them greatly. of course in adult this would never and could never happen because there is always someone willing to take whatever kind of traffic if they can make a buck off.

Yes. The simple truth is that anyone is going to do what they have to to make money. It's easy for someone who is not in the biz or not trying to grow a business, fighting against fierce competition to cast aspersions on others.. but its a reality of business. If that traffic is high quality and available, someone will pay for it. If they can't pass it off to an endless list of networks, they'll sell it themselves, through their own sites and let people buy direct. If that can't work, they'll monetize it other ways (promoting their own offers etc). Pirate bay traffic converts well. End of story. If anyone wants their traffic to be off the market, piratebay has to be shut down. Going after advertiser after advertiser after advertiser doesn't change anything at all.

Klen · 11-06-2014, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Yes. The simple truth is that anyone is going to do what they have to to make money. It's easy for someone who is not in the biz or not trying to grow a business, fighting against fierce competition to cast aspersions on others.. but its a reality of business. If that traffic is high quality and available, someone will pay for it. If they can't pass it off to an endless list of networks, they'll sell it themselves, through their own sites and let people buy direct. If that can't work, they'll monetize it other ways (promoting their own offers etc). Pirate bay traffic converts well. End of story. If anyone wants their traffic to be off the market, piratebay has to be shut down. Going after advertiser after advertiser after advertiser doesn't change anything at all.

Another bad example can be seen at tubes - it is like they are forced to steal as much is possible content,as if other tube steal more content,then surfers will switch to it.
In the end,unless there is a law which will put an end to such practices,not much can be done.

MagicMarc · 11-12-2014, 10:28 AM

well lucky him.
but as other said before most money is done with warez sites.
i can remeber the early days when Bart of Livejamsin was message me every day try to get his campaign runnings on torrent sites and so on.

in hungary with a low copyright law it might work in all countries which are not 3rd world related this business model would be should down allready by authorities.

so lucky him he is in Hungary. as long we skeip the ethical part its fine.

thesun12 · 11-13-2014, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap

HOLY SHIT! They estimate he's worth 5billion euros.
http://dailynewshungary.com/porn-kin...ing-to-forbes/

Wrong calculation. He has "only" 560million euros. http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/...rom=HUF&To=EUR.

But for sure, he has more money. Only Jasmine worth over 1 bill, and he has lot of other (mainstream) businesses and ventures.

Klen · 11-13-2014, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by thesun12

Wrong calculate. He has "only" $750million.

Forbes was never about actual money holding(plus they cant valuate that anyway as they cant peak into their bank account),they base it on business/property valuation.For example,your house might worth 2 millions dollars,but that doesn't mean you will be able to sell it by that price.

Zyber · 11-13-2014, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Katja wescort

I still remind me how they crashed the affiliate program, started to shave the old group of webmasters, changing terms and rules, closed forum so no gathering was possible between existing webmasters, then Mickey really pulled some stunts and made sure that we got screwed in our asses big time. Yeah I know where the profit comes from, hope you slap yourself on the chest, probably when they started you where still handing out flyers at the subway. While we did send traffic to a shitty Livejasmin with five cams and a worthless design.

Stop the ego trip, and stop being proud on a system that is established by webmaster and then dumped them like a titanic.

Want me to dig a little deeper? I am predicting this thread becomes a train wreck. Oohh wait, it already is.

thesun12 · 11-13-2014, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Forbes was never about actual money holding(plus they cant valuate that anyway as they cant peak into their bank account),they base it on business/property valuation.For example,your house might worth 2 millions dollars,but that doesn't mean you will be able to sell it by that price.

I know how Forbes calculating. The newssite made wrong calculation. 173bi HUF is 560 MILLION EUR, not BILLION!

And yes, in real, he is richer than what Forbes calculate.

killerbunny · 12-17-2014, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by adultchatpay

Ok good luck with that guy, we all aim to be the richest.

True story man...

GAMEFINEST · 12-17-2014, 02:20 PM

That is balling hardcore

poncabare · 12-17-2014, 02:42 PM

110 billion is no joke

johnnyloadproductions · 12-17-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan

I was actually thinking earlier today that unless you happen to be super lucky and come up with a great idea that just carries you along, to become truly "successful", you really need to be a sociopath.

This is almost starting to seep into me, lots of successful people look at things and others as expendable... being amoral.

CaptainHowdy · 12-17-2014, 05:19 PM

11-05-2014, 11:48 AM	#51
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11-05-2014, 10:44 PM	#60
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11-06-2014, 05:30 AM	#63
amitkuli Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 27	live jasmin They did a good job and deserve the success

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11-05-2014, 03:20 PM	#55
Ferus Bye - Left to do stuff Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 4,109	Still remember they used loli traffic sources, and even when they claimed it never happened, you could load one of their DNSservers default website, and find just that. + they put millions of $ in to the pocket of warez/illegal site-owners, but their bro-ness is infinet, so what does it matter

11-05-2014, 05:32 PM	#56
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Lots of money in cams.

11-06-2014, 05:11 AM	#62
rowan Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 17,393	I was actually thinking earlier today that unless you happen to be super lucky and come up with a great idea that just carries you along, to become truly "successful", you really need to be a sociopath.

11-06-2014, 05:51 AM	#64
ilnjscb Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 8,790	He at least looks cooler than the other two but we all know who the richest Hungarian is: George Soros

11-06-2014, 06:14 AM	#65
mineistaken See signature :) Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ICQ 363 097 773 Posts: 29,656	How much does he have and is that all from livejasmin or he has other profitable ventures?

11-06-2014, 07:47 AM	#67
Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	HOLY SHIT! They estimate he's worth 5billion euros. http://dailynewshungary.com/porn-kin...ing-to-forbes/

11-06-2014, 08:40 AM	#71
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	So in the end Fabian was never a porn king,he was lol

11-06-2014, 11:46 AM	#76
HiddenDoorCash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 471	very cool!

11-12-2014, 10:28 AM	#81
MagicMarc Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8	well lucky him. but as other said before most money is done with warez sites. i can remeber the early days when Bart of Livejamsin was message me every day try to get his campaign runnings on torrent sites and so on. in hungary with a low copyright law it might work in all countries which are not 3rd world related this business model would be should down allready by authorities. so lucky him he is in Hungary. as long we skeip the ethical part its fine.

12-17-2014, 02:42 PM	#88
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