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Old 11-12-2014, 11:43 AM   #101
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obvious fake review since that is your first movie review.


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anyone who thinks cooper found NASA by accident fundamentally missed an entire point of the movie. umm, SPOILER:cooper sent himself the coordinates written in the sand discovered after the sandstorm
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dear fuckwad film snob, for anyone who actually saw this movie and read the imdb reviews, it's blatantly obvious they are representative of a large swath of people who enjoyed the movie.

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ROFL! Calm down

It's pretty hilarious how upset you are!

I always assumed you where in your early 20's from reading your posts, then you mentioned your age in a thread a while back. I was very surprised

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obvious fake review since that is your first movie review.
Oh is it? My 8 year old IMDB account tells me otherwise.

I know you're just trolling in this thread so I'll leave you to it
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anyone who thinks cooper found NASA by accident fundamentally missed an entire point of the movie. umm, SPOILER:cooper sent himself the coordinates written in the sand discovered after the sandstorm
Thanks I'm aware and understand that but does it not seem a bit absurd that he would be picked to pilot the mission? Which is my main criticism of that part of the movie
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The pace of the film was all over the place!

The viewer is given pretty much zero back story about the mess the world is in, the first 10 - 20 minutes should have given the viewer a graphic insight into how desperate the situation had become. Resource wars, mass riots, martial law etc - I'd imagine if this was mankind's last generation on earth it would look a lot like the scenes in Elysium (2013) or District 9 that show scenes of abject poverty and despair.
Don't forget, that the the movie is shown by Cooper's point of view. We see only what he sees. From his point of view, the farm, it his his whole world. It's the same technique used in War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise version). From a story telling point of view, this makes sense. The audience doesn't see the chaos and the shitty condition of the world but we learn it through the character of Cooper.


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No no we get none of that, Nolan didn't even bother painting a bleak picture at all so we get no sense of urgency about the impending doom for mankind.
True, but then again it is told to us. We learn through the story about the urgency, that the world's population has maybe a generation or two left.

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Then we go from a very slow pace with a lame ass backstory for the first 30 minutes to Cooper and has daughter finding this super secret NASA compound and within the next 15 minutes Cooper is flying the space mission with the fate of humanity in his hands, seriously?
Yes because Cooper is an ex Nasa pilot, Because Cooper followed the coordinates and clues, because his daughter finally changed his mind and proved that something more was going on in the library.

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This is a critical part of the film and needed at least 20 - 30 minutes for the pace of the story to flow, they fast forwarded and glossed over one of the most critical parts of the film!
I would have preferred a little more story here too. It would have been nice to see more of Nasa, to see more training, more build up, etc etc. Then again it's already an almost 3 hour movie so maybe this had to be trimmed out. I wouldn't mind seeing an extended cut on Blu Ray....

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Also the idea that Cooper would find the NASA base by accident and then 5 minutes later they'd pick him to pilot the mission is beyond absurd, it's fucking retarded!
He didn't find it by accident (He told himself to go) and he knew the scientists at Nasa and vice-versa.


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I'd expect this type of ridiculous writing from some idiots creating some low budget rubbish but not the Nolan Brothers, not 2 of the most talented screenwriters of our generation!
I think you're being too hard on this movie. Sure its not perfect and I have my own problems with the movie (How could they be drinking beer on the porch if all the hops are gone? Ok maybe beer is just more expensive or maybe they had a stash, but still. And where in the future is this movie? Judging by all the pickup trucks and cars it looks like "today", but these are minor.

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I'm glad there are people slating the film because it does not justify it's current ranking on IMDB. Chrispher Nolan set the bar with Inception (2010) which was his masterpiece, I expected something at least near this standard and it fell short.
Agreed. Inception is a freaking' masterpiece. It is so, so, so, so sooooo good. Better than Interstellar. But Interstellar is still good. (I LOVE the Tesseract scene. Then again, I also really liked Cube2 : Hypercube, so...)

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It's a great film until you start thinking about it...
Ok, but any movie can be pulled apart. Relax a little and try to enjoy the story.

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I'll watch it again before making a final judgement but atm I think the film is probably a 7/10. It's a shame because I was really looking forward to this film, I'm a massive fan of Nolan but he really has let himself down with this film
Me too. I love all of his movies and I especially love GOOD "Real" [SCIENCE] Fiction and when I go nuts for a movie, holes in plot or goofs in physics can take me out of the movie.

On a side note, I love the Back to the Future movies. Sure you can argue that Doc Brown's time machine doesn't have enough energy or mass to travel through time but it doesn't matter. The Flux Capacitor and some Plutonium is all that he needs.
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:09 PM   #106
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ROFL! Calm down

It's pretty hilarious how upset you are!

I always assumed you where in your early 20's from reading your posts, then you mentioned your age in a thread a while back. I was very surprised



Oh is it? My 8 year old IMDB account tells me otherwise.

I know you're just trolling in this thread so I'll leave you to it
I'm not upset in the slightest. You're the one who chose to make this snobby, with your backhanded insult "any film buff" bullshit. I just called you out on that and let you know what a fuckwad snob you are.

just like your you thought i was how old then you realized comment.

gofuckyourself fuckwad. And rest assured, you have absolutely zero impact on my day.

dumbfuck film snobs are dumbfucks.
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:09 PM   #107
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DWB you think Interstellar was a better film than 2001, Blade Runner and True Romance?
Say yes and we can move on... because if you really believe that we will never agree anyway ;)
where those seriously the best examples you could find? those are all cult following movies with niche markets. In order to get into the 9's the movie would have to appeal to everyone, not just oldschool comic book nerds.

the same people who like those also think the big lebowski is a classic..
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:11 PM   #108
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I know you're just trolling in this thread so I'll leave you to it
I'm trolling a troll thread?

nothing gets by you does it?

dumfuck snob.
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I'm so glad people agree, some class comments here. I especially like this one:
"Inception was an all time great film...when compared against interstellar. The again, any movie is great compared to this nonsense."

The things I hate most about Interstellar:
Movie beings by selling space toys to kids.
Then the movie introduces the 4x4 they're selling

Also, it's the same bullshit as inception, no actual ending, lots of mysteries, total bullshit.

Me and my lady have already had a good rant about it, so I wont bother to continue.
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Old 11-12-2014, 12:29 PM   #110
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Yes because Cooper is an ex Nasa pilot, Because Cooper followed the coordinates and clues, because his daughter finally changed his mind and proved that something more was going on in the library.
I still think it's lazy story telling on Nolan's part IMO

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I would have preferred a little more story here too. It would have been nice to see more of Nasa, to see more training, more build up, etc etc. Then again it's already an almost 3 hour movie so maybe this had to be trimmed out. I wouldn't mind seeing an extended cut on Blu Ray....
I think it's a shame that films have to last for a set amount of time,

If it takes 4 - 4.5 hours to make the film into the great film it should have been then so be it!

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I think you're being too hard on this movie. Sure its not perfect and I have my own problems with the movie (How could they be drinking beer on the porch if all the hops are gone? Ok maybe beer is just more expensive or maybe they had a stash, but still. And where in the future is this movie? Judging by all the pickup trucks and cars it looks like "today", but these are minor.
See I disagree, Christopher Nolan is an outstanding talent. Instead of praising a mediocre film I think fans should be critical if it's warranted and in the case of this film I feel it is.

I'll watch it again like I have done with all his other films, this one isn't a 10/10 and I expect that from Nolan hence the disappointment.

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Ok, but any movie can be pulled apart. Relax a little and try to enjoy the story.
See I disagree, the outstanding films cannot be picked apart easily because they are of the highest quality. Perhaps I am being too harsh but it's only because I expected better from Nolan

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Me too. I love all of his movies and I especially love GOOD "Real" [SCIENCE] Fiction and when I go nuts for a movie, holes in plot or goofs in physics can take me out of the movie.
A film has failed to impress me if I'm finding plot holes or thinking about how a scene could have been better.

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On a side note, I love the Back to the Future movies. Sure you can argue that Doc Brown's time machine doesn't have enough energy or mass to travel through time but it doesn't matter. The Flux Capacitor and some Plutonium is all that he needs.
Fair point
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I'm so glad people agree, some class comments here. I especially like this one:
"Inception was an all time great film...when compared against interstellar. The again, any movie is great compared to this nonsense."

The things I hate most about Interstellar:
Movie beings by selling space toys to kids.
Then the movie introduces the 4x4 they're selling

Also, it's the same bullshit as inception, no actual ending, lots of mysteries, total bullshit.

Me and my lady have already had a good rant about it, so I wont bother to continue.

I don't see the comparison between inception and interstellar either.
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where those seriously the best examples you could find? those are all cult following movies with niche markets. In order to get into the 9's the movie would have to appeal to everyone, not just oldschool comic book nerds. the same people who like those also think the big lebowski is a classic..
Those are not cult films lol

2001 is widely regarded as the best 'space film' of all time and has been called that by the likes of Steven Spielberg and James Cameron. I'm not sure how many posts either of them has on IMDB, but I believe they do have a fair amount of street-cred between them.

Blade Runner is widely regarded as the best Sci-Fi film ever made. The director's cut is infinitely better than the theatrical release by the way, and the film does a masterful job of exploring the notion of 'what makes us human' against the backdrop of a futuristic cop thriller and exceptionally performances by an amazing cast of actors. Everyone on that film from Harrison Ford to Edward James Olmos was very good, but the script was the star of the show.

True Romance is one of my favorite movies of all time. It also happens to include the greatest single scene every filmed. Written by Quentin Tarantino and acted by Christopher Walken opposite Dennis Hopper. Watch it for yourself if you haven't seen the film... or better yet, go get the whole film and enjoy:



I get it... these three movies didn't have a meaningless chase scene to follow a guy and his kids in a pickup truck through a cornfield to down a drone that had almost nothing to do with the eventual plot. Still, they somehow managed to be three cinematic masterpieces where Interstellar is barely qualified to be a Saturday morning cartoon for six year olds.
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True Romance is one of my favorite movies of all time. It also happens to include the greatest single scene every filmed. Written by Quentin Tarantino and acted by Christopher Walken opposite Dennis Hopper. Watch it for yourself if you haven't seen the film... or better yet, go get the whole film and enjoy:



DUDE. that scene has one of THE biggest plot holes in the history of cinema.

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DUDE. that scene has one of THE biggest plot holes in the history of cinema.
A plot hole, or plothole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that creates a paradox in the story that cannot be reconciled with any explanation. What exactly do you consider a plot hole in that scene?
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A plot hole, or plothole is a gap or inconsistency in a storyline that creates a paradox in the story that cannot be reconciled with any explanation. What exactly do you consider a plot hole in that scene?
OK, good point, I type fast and brief, a better description would be plot fail. the note on the refridgerator.
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we're in here destroying awesome movies btw. like they did on big bang theory with Indiana Jones.

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OK, good point, I type fast and brief, a better description would be plot fail. the note on the refridgerator.
That's not a plot fail in any way. It shows that they didn't even have to kill or interrogate hopper to begin with... they could have been smarter and just looked around the room but instead they took the 'all balls no brains' approach to gathering information. It sets up the kind of people who are after the protagonist and shows you they are likely to shoot first, think second... which ends up to be accurate throughout the film and gets your mind right for the Gandolfini scene, which at the time was one of the most violent depictions of a fight between a man and a woman on screen that I can recall...
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we're in here destroying awesome movies btw. like they did on big bang theory with Indiana Jones.
No. You are in here finding an impossible 'fault' in the most impeccable scene ever filmed. There is not a single frame, word, lighting cue, actor or moment of that scene I would even consider changing from the masterpiece shown above.
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That's not a plot fail in any way. It shows that they didn't even have to kill or interrogate hopper to begin with... they could have been smarter and just looked around the room but instead they took the 'all balls no brains' approach to gathering information. It sets up the kind of people who are after the protagonist and shows you they are likely to shoot first, think second... which ends up to be accurate throughout the film and gets your mind right for the Gandolfini scene, which at the time was one of the most violent depictions of a fight between a man and a woman on screen that I can recall...
Obviously you missed the fact he was never planning to see his dad ever again and Clarence says they'll mail him a postcard when he drives off.

it's simply lazy writing by tarantino

tarantino can do better than that.
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@DynaMo Here are the three main arguments you have made in this thread in order of their chance to be correct:

1 - That interstellar is a good movie 50/50 since it's a matter of taste

2 - That IMDB can not be gamed = 90% wrong since nobody has bothered to do the work of inflating reviews to prove it to you, but people capable of that work are telling you it can easily be done.

3 - That True Romance has anything at all wrong with it = 100% wrong. It's provable one frame at a time from start to finish of that film. ;)
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Obviously you missed the fact he was never planning to see his dad ever again and Clarence says they'll mail him a postcard when he drives off. it's simply lazy writing by tarantino. tarantino can do better than that.
That's part of the beauty of the scene. Hopper understands he will be killed no matter what he does or says, so he goes out the best way he can. Meanwhile it shows Clarence leaves a wake of trouble everywhere he goes, no matter how unintended. You'd be better off arguing something else... finding fault with True Romance is the kobayashi maru of movie arguments.
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no, I'm saying

1. You have not proven Interstellar is an awful movie.

2. You have not proven IMDB is being gamed by the studio in this instance

3. what? no, I said tarantino got lazy writing true romance, that scene highlights that. now I'm not the sort to conclude that ruins the entertainment value of it, it doesn't for me. nor do the other plot issues that movie had.

because if anything were to do that for this film, it would be christain slater.
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i really like it!
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Incidentally Tarantino disagrees with you... he calls this scene one of the proudest moments of his career:

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That's part of the beauty of the scene. Hopper understands he will be killed no matter what he does or says, so he goes out the best way he can. Meanwhile it shows Clarence leaves a wake of trouble everywhere he goes, no matter how unintended. You'd be better off arguing something else... finding fault with True Romance is the kobayashi maru of movie arguments.
oh, hopper kills it here, that's obvious he knows he's dead, it's well-played. nevertheless, that really has nothing to do with the note on the fridge. sure slater is a doof, but we already know that, due to other parts of the film being well-done/better. not to mention walken's crew stumbling upon it on top of all that.

the note reveal plays out poorly. poor writing really.
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th epoint of that scene was not to have the address discovered, it was simply to have some fantastic dialogue and acting between 2 of the best. the finding of the note was just a quick wrapup to that dialogue scene/segue to the next chapter in the movie.
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th epoint of that scene was not to have the address discovered, it was simply to have some fantastic dialogue and acting between 2 of the best. the finding of the note was just a quick wrapup to that dialogue scene/segue to the next chapter in the movie.
I don't agree.

The closest you might come to a slight of that scene is that the 'you're a cantaloupe' line by Walken was actually ad-lib and was not in the original script. It's a brilliant quip in response to Hopper calling him an eggplant with the play on words that hopper is a white guy who 'can't elope' from his predicament... but it was Walken's genius to come up with it on the fly rather than anything Tarantino originally wrote.
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I don't see the comparison between inception and interstellar either.
Basically they're both movies that would seem dreamed up by Hollywood and engineered specifically to make sales and make people go "WOW IT HAD ALL THE INGREDIENTS OF AN AMAZING MOVIE, WITHOUT THE AMAZING MOVIE PART"

Inception vs Shutter Island. Say no more.
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I don't agree.

The closest you might come to a slight of that scene is that the 'you're a cantaloupe' line by Walken was actually ad-lib and was not in the original script. It's a brilliant quip in response to Hopper calling him an eggplant with the play on words that hopper is a white guy who 'can't elope' from his predicament... but it was Walken's genius to come up with it on the fly rather than anything Tarantino originally wrote.
hah, i can see that happening. for me, the scene ends abruptly, as if qt wrote the dialogue ,hi5'd himself, sat back and realized he forgot the scene was actually required in the plot for walken to continue pursuing clarence, but he'd left that out so he simply put a note on the door.

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Basically they're both movies that would seem dreamed up by Hollywood and engineered specifically to make sales and make people go "WOW IT HAD ALL THE INGREDIENTS OF AN AMAZING MOVIE, WITHOUT THE AMAZING MOVIE PART"

Inception vs Shutter Island. Say no more.


that's the entire point of inception! it's an elaborate behind the scenes movie about making a movie. You're absolutely right, there's no message there. entertainment value is high though. inception can withstand multiple viewings and still be fun to watch and discuss after, which to me, is a hallmark of a good movie- just be entertaining and engaging enough to be able to chat about.

I have not seen shutter island.
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Watched it yesterday in IMAX, good drama, I liked it.
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It was't bad. I give the edge to Nightcrawler.
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Here's a really cool map to help understand the movie's timeline.



Direct link to image: http://c.fastcompany.net/multisite_f...r-timeline.png
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I just saw it. I am a major science fiction nutjob. I love the movie.
I do not get what there is to complain about. I mean without giving away too much...did you expect that the black hole was going to be explained in any reasonable fashion? We have no idea what to expect. Besides being ripped apart and crushed..lol

I thought the movie was awesome. I might even go see it again this week. Switch to Imax though i suspect some of the visuals would have been amazing on Imax

Same here. Saw it at a noon showing, without IMAX. Liked it a lot.

It started off slowly but once they developed the intitial characters it was a pretty good sci fi adventure.

I'm giving it an 8.5 and I plan to watch it again in IMAX. It received good reviews on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes for a reason, because it is a damned good film.
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Here's a really cool map to help understand the movie's timeline.



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One error there is that image says Romilly didn't go into sleep stasis for 23 years, but he actually said he slept a few stretches when Brand asked him. And then decided not to sleep his life away.
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Tom a Tom fan, that being said, this movie is the widest release on IMAX ever.
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Watched this the other day on Blu Ray.

Sucked.

Nolan can't direct a decent movie to save his life. He is officially the most overrated director on the planet.

The film was scientifically implausible to such an extent that I could not suspend disbelief and enjoy the film at face value. Pseudo- philosophical use of feelings with respect to the multi-dimensional time-space is simply ridiculous. The plot made no sense and never explained anything. I love how the protagonist is asked to pilot a spacecraft on a billion dollar intergalactic mission (during a time of world wide famine, no less) the very next day! Forget a physical or psychological or refreshing your memory, just show up tomorrow man!

I could go on but what's the point. Typical Hollywood tripe with cringe-worthy lines, like a top scientist saying "Love is the one thing that we?re capable of perceiving that transcends dimensions of time and space." Ugh.
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It's a good science-fiction movie, that's all ...
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It's a good science-fiction movie, that's all ...

It's not.
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The fake square robots were distracting but the plot twists,FX & lofty mind bending convinced me a couple hours in that even though they bit off more then they could chew it wasn't a total wast of time.
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Can someone explain why Mat Damon (A+ lister?) is being underpromoted in this movie? I mean I did not even know he was in the movie. I opened Interstellar (2014) - IMDb and he is not even there (in the firstly visible results)!

How is that possible, why not to monetize on him? I mean at least put him in visible IMDB credits...

Serious question....
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Anyone here watch Event Horizon with Sam Neil and Laurence Fishburne?

The part where a scientist explains to Cooper how a wormhole works is lifted (copied) directly from that film. I mean, it's exactly the same, with the x's, the line, the folding of the paper and the pencil piercing it.

Also, does anyone else find it extremely ridiculous that this scientist is explaining to the pilot of the mission what a wormhole is only minutes before he has to go through it. LOL.
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Can someone explain why Mat Damon (A+ lister?) is being underpromoted in this movie? I mean I did not even know he was in the movie. I opened Interstellar (2014) - IMDb and he is not even there (in the firstly visible results)!

How is that possible, why not to monetize on him? I mean at least put him in visible IMDB credits...

Serious question....
Maybe it's suppose to be a surprise. Kind of like Kevin Spacey was in Seven.
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oddly enough the wiki shows the executive producer being a Theoretical physicist and acted as scientific consultant, while having the critics: 'who gave particular attention to the film's scientific accuracy'
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I don't like that film, the first part of the film was interesting but the second part was boring. Save 2,5 hours in your life and do not watch it
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haha i'd like to see how many gfy scientists with actual credentials disprove the things discussed about in the movie. not some bullshit youtube conspiracy link or vid. someone here that is a mathematics or astrophysics or anything related to that education
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The things I hate most about Interstellar:
Movie beings by selling space toys to kids.
Then the movie introduces the 4x4 they're selling
Huh? I must have missed that completely. Coop's daughter is playing with model of the Lunar lander. It might be a toy you can still buy but its not like she was showing the brand of it to the camera. The model is also a key element in the film and the story. It is the first science of the "ghost", it reminds us that Coop is a pilot and believes science. It also reminds us that Murphy believes science too, which is what gets her into trouble at school.

I actually love this part because it suggests that since they teach in school that landing on the moon was faked and never happen, that the politicians behind denying science won, and they might have been the ones responsible for fucking up the planet. Subtle jab? You betcha.


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Also, it's the same bullshit as inception, no actual ending, lots of mysteries, total bullshit.
Wow... !! Foxy, I urge you give Inception another watch and pay really close attention to it. The ending is one of the coolest most amazing endings I've ever seen. At the very last frame of the movie, the spinning top wobbles. If you blink, you missed it, and then poof, black screen. The top is his characters self-test to know if he is dreaming or not. You also never see the children faces until the last 30 seconds of the movie. This musical cues are also the Edith Plaif song, slowed down. Nolan is trying to tell you something very important here but he doesn't want to show you - he wants you to realize it, or at least think about it.

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See I disagree, Christopher Nolan is an outstanding talent. Instead of praising a mediocre film I think fans should be critical if it's warranted and in the case of this film I feel it is.
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See I disagree, the outstanding films cannot be picked apart easily because they are of the highest quality. Perhaps I am being too harsh but it's only because I expected better from Nolan
Ok, I see your point. I had problems with it too (I hated the robot for one), I still love the movie. I plan to buy it on Blu ray when released.
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I saw this last weekend. It was long, but I thought it was good. The end was a little strange.
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