Roald

'MURICA!!!!!

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AaronM

No need to post things that are common sense. Even if I cared to post them, you've just stated that statistics provided by the NSSF mean nothing to you....Just like the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Lets get back to your claims to own "assault rifles" you fucking hypocritical traitor.

AaronM

Fuck yeah!!!!!

dyna mo

it's too bad people can't love and respect Americans for the gun loving Americans we are. :-(

'Merica, fuck yeah!

arock10

ah another idiotic thread making americans look retarded

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iSpyCams

Heres some stats for ya:

I own 5 guns and have been shot zero times. My goal is to not get shot ever and so far my strategy is working well.

I think it's obvious that each person should own 5 guns for each time they DON'T want to get shot.

So like, if you don't want to get shot once, you need 5 guns. If you don't want to get shot twice, get 10, etc.

It's simple and the stats support it.

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AaronM

Amen!

And with that....I've got an appointment to get to.

Roctard, I'll check back on this thread to verify those tax stamps just in case you're not lying. For all I know your "assault rifles" are registered to a trust and kept out of the state of CA....Although I personally believe you're full of shit I'll still give you a bit of time to prove me wrong before I report you to the ATF.

dyna mo

here's the thing, gun hater Canadians-

1. USA cannot put the gun genie back in the bottle, please see what happened when we tried that with liqour.

2. this country was built on guns, tobacco, and liquor, you cannot change that history, instead, accept it and move on

3. guns are intrinsically linked to our fundamental rights, as you know.

4. reality.

4. 'Merica, fuck yeah.

sonofsam

You're such a stereotype, it's hilarious. Overweight American who is gun crazy with a Neckbeard.

I can see why you need guns though.. Since you're a coward and can't stand up for yourself without them... Like that time you told me you were coming to vancouver to meet me and then didn't...

Also.. Speaking of guns and violent crime... Remember that time you brought a gun to a convention? Hahahaha you're so awkward



P.s. Pick a role... You can't pretend to be the internet gangster guy and then also threaten to call the ATF on Rochard...

sonofsam

I suggest you don't bring your gun to your McDonalds interview

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MrGusMuller

FBI got smarter looool

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Tam

Well SOMEONE is buying all the fucking ammo around my place - and I know who it is, but I'll take the 5th on that one - ok, it's all the paranoid freaky fucking rednecks that wear foil hats and think Jesus is coming back or someone is going to get them in their sleep or some other conspiracy that whoever says they need and they feed on it like it's last night's steak... but regardless they are buying up the 22 ammo that comes in before it gets to the shelves.

I know this one because I got a 22 Revolver last year for Christmas and I have no foil hat or anyone I want to shoot or even a fast need for defense, like a 22 would even do much of that - and I can't shoot it because there hasn't been ONE box of 22 ammo on the fucking shelves since the day I got it!!

I am not about to get into the stats or anything - I am just really pissy about not being able to shoot my fucking gun - lol

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SongRider

Maybe crime is down because NO ONE can find ammo for ALL these new guns being sold.

The only folks around me that have ammo are paranoid rednecks Hoarding Bullets,Canned food and hate like Gollum grasping his precious ring...

They are waiting for FOX news to tell them when and who will be invading... So far the only confirmed info they got is they will not be white guys like our founding Fathers and Jesus was/is...



Part of this comment is true... Part might be true... and for the rest... I dont care... Just having fun...

fuzebox

Comparing crime statistics to gun ownership can be skewed... I know if I lived in a higher crime area, I sure as shit would buy a gun

Who commits crimes with legally purchased weapons anyway?

arock10

pretty much all illegal guns were legal at one point ;)

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AaronM

Poor Tam.

Hit me up and I'll send you some .22 ammo. It's a crime that you haven't been able to shoot your new gun.

I'm serious here, PM me your shipping addy.

Where did Roctard go? He must be pulling a Mr. Maxwell move and asking friends for pics of their tax stamps.

Validus

Without the right to protect yourself, you're not free. We need much more sensible gun laws in Canada - which will never happen.

Tam

Aww, you are so sweet - I had a 38 Special and I hated how loud it was, I don't want a gun to go kill nothing or no one - just to know I have it if I need it or to just have that comfort - plus I like to shoot - lol

My husband found 2 small boxes on Facebook or somewhere from some private guy but paid thru his nose for it at the time. We go to the stores and keep an eye on them and seriously, all the clerks say it is gone before they can get it on the shelves - THAT should be a damn crime. lol

It's the same thing as them screaming snow around here, you can't find milk and bread ANYWHERE. lol

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MrGusMuller

THIS IS LOVE MY GFY FRIENDS!!!!

Love between two serial killers!!...

Loool

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MrGusMuller

another crime

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slapass

Old people own guns and they are dying off. Check the stats. The genie is dying, so soon we might be a decent society like the rest of the developed world.

arock10

which is why here in america every citizen should be issued a nuke, a tank, a few rpgs, and whatever else the NRA deems required to be "free"

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dyna mo

same with liquor during prohibition times. old people died off but liquor was left, trouble and chaos ensued. organized crime was actually created in reaction to prohibition. the Income Tax was created as a result of prohibition. that's just the tip of the iceberg.

it would be even worse with gun prohibition.

MrGusMuller

(Re submited the form)

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kane

Here is a pretty interesting article by the Wall Street Journal about the reduction in crime. Violent crime is at a 40 year low. They explore many reasons as to why this might be. Among the suggested reasons are:

1. All the criminals are already in jail. Our incarceration rate in this country is at its all time high. These people can't be committing crimes if they are behind bars.

2. People have gotten better at protecting themselves with alarms, lighting, better locks etc. I suppose you could add owning guns to this one.

3. Police have become more efficient. Many cities are focusing on policing problem areas more intensely and that is helping reduce crime.

4. Medical reasons. Doctors have shown that children with a lot of lead in their system are more likely to be aggressive and violent. EPA standards have helped to lower the average amount of lead in American's blood by four-fifths since 1975.

5. Decreasing crack and cocaine use. Between 1992 and 2009 crack use fell by 66%. In that same time frame the average number of 12th graders who had tried cocaine fell from 9.8% to 5.5%.

The reality is likely that no one of these things has caused the decrease. There could also be other factors at play. I would think all of these factors play a role in it and it is many different things all coming together to lower a crime rate.

MrGusMuller

6. Too much free porn. Criminals stay more time at home watching porn tubes.

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bronco67

Your chances of getting shot have definitely gone down, just like you said.

But your chances of shooting someone else have gone up exponentially.

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AaronM

Too loud huh? That's why God created suppressors and subsonic ammunition.

Take note Roctard, the paperwork in this photo includes an NFA tax stamp which is required by law for you to own an "Assault Rifle". I'm still waiting for you to produce proof of yours....



Ugh....I need to clean the spooge off my monitor....

Tam

It always looks worse when you capture it on film, especially hi-def... rotfl

I just want something to toy with, like I said, not to scare myself to death - I can shoot those and have - and pretty damn good I might say so myself - I just am not about trying to hurt anyone - but scare the shit out of them - my little revolver looks pretty damn intimidating -

UNLESS you are a pitbull - 22s are NOT good for that kind of defense. lmao

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VikingMan

The truth about the 2nd Amendment is not politically correct. Yes in 1950 United States if everyone owns guns then crime is lower, few people get killed accidentally, etc. However in 2014 where a huge part of the population is mentally ill, has no morals, materialistic, narcissistic, grew up watching gansta rap videos, etc then the 2nd Amendment is not really viable. Plus when you consider the increasing velocity of immigration of the nation it does not help the situation as it just fragments us even more and leads to violence. Where I grew up boys were handed a .22 rifle at age 5 or 6. All of our coat closets were full of guns and ammo and we all had access to it anytime of the day. However we knew if we fucked up and messed around with the guns in a way that was reckless we would get whipped from our fathers and/or mothers. There were no serious crimes that I ever heard of. And there were no gun accidents where I grew up. It just never happened. Yet all of us, all ages in all families had access to guns 24/7 365 days a year.

So basically my point was that the 2nd Amendment was not created with a bunch of retards and the USA is is increasing full of retards. Its over. Just a matter of time.

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Well I can't solve everyone's problems...

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Seth Manson

All this shows is that people are not telling that they own guns to people taking surveys.

slapass

Gun ownership as a percent of society is down. Not sure why you equate it with drinking.

arock10

6/7. Abortion legalized in 1973. A ton of unwanted kids were never born and therefore didn't have a chance to commit crimes. The freakenomics guy did a pretty interesting chapter on it

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AaronM

You're wrong. Gun ownership grows every year no matter what any "survey" says. The more crime goes up, the more NEW people buy guns. This is also backed by the number of new firearms trainers who have been popping up throughout the nation.

Here's an article that presents a realistic view of the situation.

Mythbusting: Gun Ownership Is On the Decline in the U.S. - The Truth About Guns

kane

Good point.

dyna mo

I'm not equating it to drinking. I'm using history to compare prohibition to prohibition.

trevesty

That was the 2nd result for my Google search, but yes there were quite a few results saying the same thing. A lot had .edu in the URL, too.

Gun ownership is pretty much on a downward spiral & has been for decades and so is violent crime. I'm not sure if the two are related, nor do I really care, but people posting bullshit just to support their ideology is annoying.

This data(violent crime's downward spiral since the 60's) has been thoroughly researched in academia, especially by criminologists, over the past decade. I bet a search on scholar.google.com would have some interesting finds.

trevesty

"You're wrong"

*posts link to obvious propaganda link*



Ah, the bullshit is strong in this one.

bronco67

But did you really think about that? With the attitude you carry around about being protected because you have a gun, implies that you have to shoot someone to protect yourself. That means you have a very high chance of shooting someone. Do you really want to go through not only the possible legal implications of that, but also the taking of a life? I'm just wondering if all of you self-protection guys contemplate these possible scenarios.

What are you protecting yourself from? Why are you so scared of the world? No one is coming to get you.

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Validus

How related are the topics of "lawful gun ownership" and "violent crimes with guns"?

Unless we have proof that supports gun crimes are committed with firearms acquired lawfully - is there an actual connection or does it expose some "marketing" tactics in support of another agenda?

If gun related crime is committed with firearms stolen from those who lawfully acquired them, than the storage and prevention of theft needs to get addressed, not the ownership and rights to have them... or not?

I believe the real issue is homicide rates and then possibly accidental deaths - not gun ownership itself.

Looking at murder rates on Wikipedia, the US is listed as #112 with a rate of 4.7 and Canada has a rate of 1.6 and listed at #170. Switzerland with a gun ownership rate of 45.7 guns per 100 residents, marking it the country ranked #4 for gun ownership, is ranked #206 with a murder rate of 0.6. These numbers seem to indicate that more guns does not = more murders.

The real issue is society or rather societies - the "willingness" to kill another person.

AaronM

Says the guy who's posting his misguided opinions based on anti-gun propaganda links.



Ah, the ignorance is strong in this one.

You're just another sheep.

trevesty

I haven't offered my opinion on the topic actually. Projecting maybe?

SuckOnThis

AaronM

If you're not posting your opinions then WTF is this? It's certainly not factual...

slapass

Crime is down and has been going down for years. So why would more people be buying guns? The USA has the lowest murder rate in my lifetime. Compared to the 70's I live in a paradise crime stat wise. Burglary and and auto theft down over 60%. Murder down 30%. Rape and aggravated assault are not down but that might be that more people report then before. Or so the police say.

Turn off Fox news. The USA is actually a pretty nice place.

Fat Panda

i own many guns but other people shouldnt be able too

slapass

Guns aren't prohibited. There is no law in the works to prohibit gun ownership that I am aware of. The debate is whether gun ownership is down or up.

AaronM

I don't watch Fox news. In fact, I don't pay much attention to any news channels.

Do you like it when people post wrong and ignorant information about the adult industry? Probably not.

Why are more people buying guns? For both fear and sport.

People can make all the bogus claims they like but the sales stats prove differently.