saleen42 Ripped Me Off $200 - GoFuckYourself.com

SlammedMedia · 12-27-2013, 08:34 AM

I did a MechBunny template design for him, for his site FreakyClips.com, my job was to do the design and have the implementation into MechBunny completed -- that's what I was asked, that's what was agreed upon.

Then on top of that, Konrad, from what I was told was programming all the additional features to make the site into a Clip Store and from what I knew was going to implement his side of things once I was finished on my end.

Once the design / implementation was completed I sent it to him (saleen42) to approve, and he wrote back confused about why the Clip Store functions weren't working. I just assumed that was obvious, and said that was Konrad's part of the project and that he'd add all that when he was completed. He wasn't able to understand that, and kept going on that he wasn't paying twice for the implementation -- and it didn't matter how many times I explained it, he couldn't grasp that he Konrad implementing his work was something entirely separate from what we did.

There's still $200 owing on the project (plus I had to pay for the implementation out of my pocket, because I have someone else do that part) and it's been almost a month now, he ignores all attempts to contact him and he has been given several notices that I was going to post this issue on GFY. So here we are.

Here's the finished template

Markul · 12-27-2013, 08:38 AM

Very nice work man. Hope you get paid.

Maqua · 12-27-2013, 08:52 AM

Site looks good, now it needs to be paid for, hope it happens soon

Manfap · 12-27-2013, 08:59 AM

Shame, sell it as a ready made site to someone, then they can integrate it with konrad or their own team.

Site that nice shouldn't be left hanging.

seeandsee · 12-27-2013, 09:42 AM

that is so bad to not get paid for your work...

mineistaken · 12-27-2013, 09:49 AM

nice design

~Ray · 12-27-2013, 09:49 AM

not good business for him

ErectMedia · 12-27-2013, 09:50 AM

1)50% deposit before beginning work.
2)Detail all terms in an email and have them agree to terms before beginning work.

They don't pay then you can change a logo and sell it to someone else for 50% off to recoup your costs.

SlammedMedia · 12-27-2013, 10:09 AM

That's for the comments about the design guys!

I'm planning to turn it into a template for MechTemplates if he doesn't pay by the end of this month.

idolbucks · 12-27-2013, 11:12 AM

Sucks man! Takes ErectMedia's advice.

sarettah · 12-27-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia

Once the design / implementation was completed I sent it to him (saleen42) to approve, and he wrote back confused about why the Clip Store functions weren't working. I just assumed that was obvious, and said that was Konrad's part of the project and that he'd add all that when he was completed. He wasn't able to understand that, and kept going on that he wasn't paying twice for the implementation -- and it didn't matter how many times I explained it, he couldn't grasp that he Konrad implementing his work was something entirely separate from what we did.

Who contracted with Konrad on it, you or the client? Sounds very much like the client doesn't have a clear picture of what was supposed to happen/is happening.

Hope you get it worked out

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bloggerz · 12-27-2013, 11:30 AM

You do any work with smart tube pro?

Hit me up if you do, thanks

over38 · 12-27-2013, 04:09 PM

He is using your work without permission (not paying):

DMCA his host and upstream provider

SlammedMedia · 12-27-2013, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Who contracted with Konrad on it, you or the client? Sounds very much like the client doesn't have a clear picture of what was supposed to happen/is happening.

He did all that.

SlammedMedia · 12-27-2013, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by over38

He is using your work without permission (not paying):

DMCA his host and upstream provider

I will be if he does. As of right now he only has the PSD files.

Marcus Aurelius · 12-27-2013, 04:50 PM

You do good work and Konrad is a very cool dude to deal with.

If the guy is using your template, DMCA his host and shut him down.

sarettah · 12-27-2013, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia

He did all that.

Hmm, strange that he is confused about it then. Oh well, can never tell how it will go with a user.. er I mean client.

good luck.

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SlammedMedia · 12-27-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Hmm, strange that he is confused about it then. Oh well, can never tell how it will go with a user.. er I mean client.

good luck.

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No it's unreal. I have a solid hour of ICQ history where I'm trying over and over to explain it to him, and he just continues to act ignorant to it all -- it's hard to believe.

adultchatpay · 12-27-2013, 08:24 PM

people are ripping off a good business person. Can't imagine the time and dedication spent with that work. I hope it will be settled out soon.

lagcam · 12-27-2013, 11:00 PM

I don't see where you say you talked with Konrad?

Considering that at least part of your business seems to be designing templates specifically for his script, I presume you have a relationship with him and I know you say that the client contracted with him direcly about this but clearly the client doesn't understand each party's individual responsibilities and a little liaison between you and Konrad should be able to sort that out surely?

k0nr4d · 12-28-2013, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by lagcam

I don't see where you say you talked with Konrad?

Considering that at least part of your business seems to be designing templates specifically for his script, I presume you have a relationship with him and I know you say that the client contracted with him direcly about this but clearly the client doesn't understand each party's individual responsibilities and a little liaison between you and Konrad should be able to sort that out surely?

As we're indirectly involved here i'll explain the situation from our side.

We did some clipstore-esque modifications for the client, and some of them involved making some modifications to the templates to work with the new functionality. We did them all on the default template as he did not have a design/layout for the site at that time. We did the work and got paid in full. Some time later, he got this template made (very nice btw, I would say his nicest work to date), showed it to us, we quoted on cutting and integrating it and he decided to have MechTemplates do it instead. Our involvement with the project ended at that point.

Klen · 12-28-2013, 04:51 AM

Sounds like a story for http://clientsfromhell.net/

Wellness Cash · 12-28-2013, 07:47 AM

Right click > save as.

Nice work, thanks

sarettah · 12-28-2013, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d

As we're indirectly involved here i'll explain the situation from our side.

We did some clipstore-esque modifications for the client, and some of them involved making some modifications to the templates to work with the new functionality. We did them all on the default template as he did not have a design/layout for the site at that time. We did the work and got paid in full. Some time later, he got this template made (very nice btw, I would say his nicest work to date), showed it to us, we quoted on cutting and integrating it and he decided to have MechTemplates do it instead. Our involvement with the project ended at that point.

Ah, ok. Sounds like the client paid you already and expected the OP to pick up the changes you did in the default template and get them into the new design.

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SlammedMedia · 12-28-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

Ah, ok. Sounds like the client paid you already and expected the OP to pick up the changes you did in the default template and get them into the new design.
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This was never told to us. We were only told to do the implementation and then hand it over to Konrad. We did exactly what was asked.

sarettah · 12-28-2013, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia

This was never told to us. We were only told to do the implementation and then hand it over to Konrad. We did exactly what was asked.

I didn't say he told you that. I said sounds like he expected that. It really sounds like there is a communication failure somewhere in there somewhere. Don't know where.

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myleene · 12-29-2013, 12:50 AM

It's really a great design.

I would love having a similar one whenever I'll make a new tube. I'll seriously consider both of you for a future project.

It's a shame your client doesn't recognize your work and pay for it.

DBS.US · 12-29-2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah

I didn't say he told you that. I said sounds like he expected that. It really sounds like there is a communication failure somewhere in there somewhere. Don't know where.

.

Get everything in writing before the work starts,

whOaKemosabe · 12-29-2013, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlammedMedia

I did a MechBunny template design for him, for his site FreakyClips.com, my job was to do the design and have the implementation into MechBunny completed -- that's what I was asked, that's what was agreed upon.

Then on top of that, Konrad, from what I was told was programming all the additional features to make the site into a Clip Store and from what I knew was going to implement his side of things once I was finished on my end.

Once the design / implementation was completed I sent it to him (saleen42) to approve, and he wrote back confused about why the Clip Store functions weren't working. I just assumed that was obvious, and said that was Konrad's part of the project and that he'd add all that when he was completed. He wasn't able to understand that, and kept going on that he wasn't paying twice for the implementation -- and it didn't matter how many times I explained it, he couldn't grasp that he Konrad implementing his work was something entirely separate from what we did.

There's still $200 owing on the project (plus I had to pay for the implementation out of my pocket, because I have someone else do that part) and it's been almost a month now, he ignores all attempts to contact him and he has been given several notices that I was going to post this issue on GFY. So here we are.

Here's the finished template

All my bullshit aside you do some great work

SlammedMedia · 12-29-2013, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by myleene

It's really a great design.

I would love having a similar one whenever I'll make a new tube. I'll seriously consider both of you for a future project.

It's a shame your client doesn't recognize your work and pay for it.

Thank you

PornDiscounts-V · 12-29-2013, 10:59 PM

You mean for 200 bucks I don't get the world?

Rammann · 12-30-2013, 02:24 AM

Things like that are always bad

LaetiTia · 12-30-2013, 10:23 AM

Nice! makes me want to design to. do you have a tutorial on how to design web page?

madko · 12-30-2013, 10:27 AM

Nice work!
It's very hard to reason with people that don't understand the process and can't appreciate the work.

SlammedMedia · 01-07-2014, 07:01 PM

bump ... still want my money.

SlammedMedia · 01-22-2014, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by whOaKemosabe

All my bullshit aside you do some great work

Thanks man

BenGentlemen · 01-23-2014, 03:53 AM

Give him the money

Lykos · 01-23-2014, 05:35 AM

He ripped me of for $4,000 .... I sent him $ for his one of his clipstores...

He uploaded me content (wasn't what i primary wanted) and never delivered me the store.... first it was "problem with international ownership transfer" and then he just simply stop responding. He is a douche bag!

Manfap · 01-23-2014, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Lykos

He ripped me of for $4,000 .... I sent him $ for his one of his clipstores...

He uploaded me content (wasn't what i primary wanted) and never delivered me the store.... first it was "problem with international ownership transfer" and then he just simply stop responding. He is a douche bag!

Where is he based?

SlammedMedia · 01-25-2014, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Manfap

Where is he based?

I'm pretty sure he's in California.

srockhard · 02-04-2015, 10:57 PM

I bought the domain FreakyClips.com for .98 cents but have nothing to do with saleen42 ...just wanted to put that on the record ;)

NatalieK · 02-05-2015, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SlammedMedia

Here's the finished template

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlammedMedia

Thanks man

Fantastic looking sites. Wondering, is showyourdeal.com your work?

And hoping saleen pays up

Harmon · 02-05-2015, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GspotProductions

Fantastic looking sites. Wondering, is showyourdeal.com your work?

And hoping saleen pays up

look at the age of the thread

Lykos · 02-05-2015, 07:49 AM

He ripped me for $4,000 last year for "selling" me his content store.
I have lawyer working on this ....

NatalieK · 02-05-2015, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Harmon

look at the age of the thread

did he get his money in the end?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lykos

He ripped me for $4,000 last year for "selling" me his content store.
I have lawyer working on this ....

Who, saleen or the OP?

12-27-2013, 08:34 AM	#1
SlammedMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,573	saleen42 Ripped Me Off $200 I did a MechBunny template design for him, for his site FreakyClips.com, my job was to do the design and have the implementation into MechBunny completed -- that's what I was asked, that's what was agreed upon. Then on top of that, Konrad, from what I was told was programming all the additional features to make the site into a Clip Store and from what I knew was going to implement his side of things once I was finished on my end. Once the design / implementation was completed I sent it to him (saleen42) to approve, and he wrote back confused about why the Clip Store functions weren't working. I just assumed that was obvious, and said that was Konrad's part of the project and that he'd add all that when he was completed. He wasn't able to understand that, and kept going on that he wasn't paying twice for the implementation -- and it didn't matter how many times I explained it, he couldn't grasp that he Konrad implementing his work was something entirely separate from what we did. There's still $200 owing on the project (plus I had to pay for the implementation out of my pocket, because I have someone else do that part) and it's been almost a month now, he ignores all attempts to contact him and he has been given several notices that I was going to post this issue on GFY. So here we are. Here's the finished template __________________ ICQ: 350-260-628

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