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100 proxy wars.,.,./...

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aka123

It is good to remember that USA vs Russia proxy wars are "proxy" only from their views. For other parties involved those are just regular wars, unless they are involved in some proxy way too. Actually in many African wars there has been multiple proxy nations involved. And in WWII war against Germany was proxy war for US for long time; proxies were mostly UK and Soviet Union.

Also in US independent war, US was proxy for France.

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klinton

believe it or not - but east of ukraine wants it. its just different mentality

MetaMan

Russians do not exist! We all evolved from tribes in Africa!

Do you see how your point means 0.

Millions of people claim themselves to be Ukrainian. It doesn't matter what you think. Throughout history people have changed tribes claimed land thousands of time over.

Americans helped my grandparents flee from the soviets and helped them get across into free land in the west.

The soviets were kind enough to starve millions of Ukrainians before that period.

But yes yes bring in the Russians!

There is pig headed Russians all over the world. I have met them in Europe, Caribbean, Canada, USA and they are all the same. Blind, brutish, ugly and stupid.

USA USA USA.

MetaMan

Putin likes poo poo

USA USA USA

hadden

just a punk

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_Richard_

and then you get into that awkward business connection thing between US and Nazi Germany

aka123

Nazies had many business connections. For example Sweden was important ore producer for Germany and also manuractured ball bearings for Germany. Luckily for Germans, as their ball bearing factories got bombed on regular basis, Sweden's didn't.

I don't think that US did anything similar. Some joint ownerships and such, if I remember correctly.

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MaDalton

Ford and Opel (General Motors) were American owned before, during and after the war

didn't read up Ford but in the case of Opel they just couldn't transfer any profits out between 1942 and 1945

and Henry Ford was a Nazi fan anyways

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venus

really?
Afghanistan - took it from Taliban, gave it back to people, its up to them to keep it now
korea - north korea is still north korea, they don't own south korea and wont
iran - ????
Iraq - corrupt politicians can destroy a country, it was given to them, they screwed it up
japan...doing good
Germany doing good
every country still in Russia's pocket, still poor

the US does not fuck up other countries, their people do because they don't know any other way.

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pimpmaster9000

oh right...just like in iraq, you caused the deaths of 100.000-s and left a shitty gov...I am telling you: you do everything shit

at the cost of millions of n.koreans lives you cemented a dictator in power....maybe you do not understand?? look you have to ask people "what is a job well done?" and they will explain that it is not creating more shit than before but actually solving a problem: something the USA is completely incapable of doing

you installed a puppet government with the shah (very democratic LOL) and then you completely fucked it up in a most spectacular way and khomeini came to power and millions died in the later wars...you fucked it up, even though your politicians told you otherwise

riiiiiiiiight it had nothing to do with the USA being incompetent and the "Rebuilding" corrupt as fuck riiiiiiiiiiiiight the USA had no say whatsoever

yes you nuked 100.000-s of fishermen in war torn crippled japan...japan was no threat whatsoever and stalin kinda took the glory for winning WW2 and was going to march the fuck in to jap and take ALL THE GLORY...and at the cost of 100.000-s of lives the USA just HAD to intervene LOOOOOOOOL

shut up about japan you are american you can not understand that dropping nukes on fishermen is wrong

you didnt visit them LOL...europe and russia did......my shit hole yugoslavia lost just as much people as the USA did ...


yes yes the 100.000-s of bombs the USA drops, the decades upon decades of economic sanctions and the economic terrorism have nothing to do with it at all...you brainwashed north korean/american LOL

just a punk

O'rly? Please name these countries. A special note for idiots: we are not talking about Soviet Union (there is no such country anymore). We are talking about Russian Federation. Ok, ho ahead and show your list.

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duk75

This kind of threads are a thread for the porn community. The USA government will hate you for being so anticapitalist and antiimperialist.

Too bad I am that too... so they hate me too.

_Richard_

yes they did have many business connections, it just so happens that one of the main business connections they had, already attempted to overthrow the FDR government less than 10 years earlier that you can read about under 'business plot' here:

7 Insane Conspiracies That Actually Happened | Cracked.com

that business connection went on to doing business with another facist party, and when war broke out continued doing business with that fascist party but simply cooked his books so it wouldn't seem that way.

another interesting note on this was 'standard oil', a partner in that aforementioned business plot, also owned by Prescott Bush, was refueling german uboats, and reported caught on film by the US Coast Guard.

so yes, they had business connections.. Ford for example.. its just some business connections were tried for treason for it, and those business connections had already attempted their own facist coups. and currently, that same family seems to be responsible quite a few wars..