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Old 02-13-2015, 11:54 AM   #51
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i guess it's function of the vaccine and of the government... anyway...

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Old 02-13-2015, 01:33 PM   #52
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When I say educated I mean specifically on vaccines, I used to be pro-vaccine myself, two science degrees here, but then I became obsessed with reading vaccine studies, they are a joke, can't believe it's allowed, not science at all
How's that olympic pen working out for you? still living in mom's basement with your 2 science degrees?You fucking looney.
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two science degrees here
Two science degrees from Alex Jones University?

Or two science degrees from Yale? Did you go with edgeprod?
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Two science degrees from Alex Jones University?

Or two science degrees from Yale? Did you go with edgeprod?
Same Edgeprod alumni
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in addition to being thoroughly confused about vaccines, you are also confused as to what trolling is.
he's just confused in general.
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Same Edgeprod alumni
He is pro-vaccine and got fucked up by one, poor chap has MS now
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wehateporn is an idiot. The fact that you clown fucks respond to his shit makes it even funnier. You do realize that he is a moron that thrives off of people disagreeing with him, right? Just put him on ignore or skip over his johnnyclips posts.

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I think that parents that doesn't vaccinate their kids are poor parents to their kids.
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I think that parents that doesn't vaccinate their kids are poor parents to their kids.
Many people think that before looking into the topic further
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Well I am ancient so maybe the shots I got 300 years ago were better than the ones today. This is certainly true of Reeses peanut butter cups.
There were a lot less shots which meant less tickets to the autoimmune disease lottery
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There were a lot less shots which meant less tickets to the autoimmune disease lottery
I actually really do hate sounding like an old man, cursing kids off my lawn, but I have felt "old" for fifteen years now. Pretty much ever since the Millenium. It seems like everything has changed so suddenly and permanently, and not in good ways. All my favorite foods taste like shit now, the ones I loved since childhood.

More chemicals, more GMI food, more prescription drugs....remember when ads for medicine were NOT on TV every ten seconds? I do!

We are all going to Hell in a hand basket. Thing is, I used to enjoy the ride. Now not so much. LOL
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wehateporn > Have you investigated it more than reading Jenny McCarthy's "scientific information" ?
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I actually really do hate sounding like an old man, cursing kids off my lawn, but I have felt "old" for fifteen years now. Pretty much ever since the Millenium. It seems like everything has changed so suddenly and permanently, and not in good ways. All my favorite foods taste like shit now, the ones I loved since childhood.

More chemicals, more GMI food, more prescription drugs....remember when ads for medicine were NOT on TV every ten seconds? I do!

We are all going to Hell in a hand basket. Thing is, I used to enjoy the ride. Now not so much. LOL
Me too, I used to think all the old guy's had it wrong, I used to tell them that, but now I understand the look they gave me
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wehateporn > Have you investigated it more than reading Jenny McCarthy's "scientific information" ?
If you've seen my posts you would not be asking that, but yeah the doctors actually learn from me, even one of the top UK doctors was grateful for information I provided to him. One team in the UK is now researching a danger of one particular vaccine which I alerted them to after my obsessive research.
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Which one is that ? Give me his name so I can check him up. Which of the vaccines did you obsessively research ? Let me check your information in PubMed.
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If you've seen my posts you would not be asking that, but yeah the doctors actually learn from me, even one of the top UK doctors was grateful for information I provided to him. One team in the UK is now researching a danger of one particular vaccine which I alerted them to after my obsessive research.
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hello, i found this on deviantart

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If you've seen my posts you would not be asking that, but yeah the doctors actually learn from me, even one of the top UK doctors was grateful for information I provided to him. One team in the UK is now researching a danger of one particular vaccine which I alerted them to after my obsessive research.
Delusional much?

You seem more like edgeprod by the moment.
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I can even picture the psychiatrist in the white lab coat nodding his head :

-Is that so mister ? You discovered a conspiracy in the vaccines ?
-Yes doc, I obsessively searched and you have to learn this from me : vaccines are bad
-You are right , said the doctor. (Then he turns to the nurse : increase his dosage, he is delusional).
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If you've seen my posts you would not be asking that, but yeah the doctors actually learn from me, even one of the top UK doctors was grateful for information I provided to him. One team in the UK is now researching a danger of one particular vaccine which I alerted them to after my obsessive research.
What?
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Come on man. Can you post more stuff about 9/11 or Aliens or something?

You have never done any research. Research on this topic is done in labs with scientific methods. You are reading blogs and watching youtube videos.
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Delusional much?

You seem more like edgeprod by the moment.
I'm starting to believe it might be....
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Come on man. Can you post more stuff about 9/11 or Aliens or something?

You have never done any research. Research on this topic is done in labs with scientific methods. You are reading blogs and watching youtube videos.
He jumped the shark with that comment. He buried the needle on the insanity meter

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I haven't read all of the replies here but I know how this debate goes. I believe that parents that don't vaccinate their children are idiots. Whether it's their own paranoia or religious reasons doesn't matter. Children should be vaccinated to protect themselves, their family, and anyone who comes in contact with them. I'm a firm believer in that.

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Tetanus is a disease of poor wound hygiene, those at risk of Tetanus would typically be newborn babies in the Third World who have their cord cut with rusty scissors, in the First World it would be a risk to someone with 80% burns. It's not a realistic risk to the average person who cleans their wounds well and is in good health. Even so, if you did go down with Tetanus just take some antibiotics, all is well and good.

The first problem with the Tetanus vaccine is that it's also known as the Crib Death vaccine, secondly Tetanus antibodies often end up attacking cells in the body which look similar to Tetanus (molecular mimicry), this means autoimmune disease. For anyone questioning vaccines it's the first vaccine to strike off the list, it has the most about of compensation paid out for damages, studies have shown that it decreases life expectancy compared to those who don't receive the vaccine.
WeHatePorn, look man.. I laugh at your fake moon landings and other conspiracy things sometimes, but you need to stop posting "medical" advice.

A serious problem going on these days is that too many people take too much "medical" advice from people who are not doctors. Others will take this BS and re-post it on other forums, etc. It's not funny, it's dangerous.

False information and crazy theories are what has caused years of proven science to be ignored and allowed diseases like the Measles to return.

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If we look at infant mortality rates we see that the more vaccines an industrialized nation gives the worse their infant mortality rate is

Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity?

Remember when Japan banned vaccines for under-2's, Crib Death vanished in the country, their infant mortality rate jumped right up to best in the world.
What happened to the autism rate? Oh yeah, it kept rising even thought there were no vaccines given. But I do not see you spouting off about autism anymore. Did you have a change of heart?
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If you've seen my posts you would not be asking that, but yeah the doctors actually learn from me, even one of the top UK doctors was grateful for information I provided to him. One team in the UK is now researching a danger of one particular vaccine which I alerted them to after my obsessive research.
I was actually listening to what you had to say then you posted this...


You lost me completely with that last post.



1st and formost, both my kids are vaccinated. What I did choose to do was to space them out and not do multiple vaccines at the same time.


I do believe some vaccines on some people do cause issues such as allergic reactions, etc.

Keep in mind people also have bad reactions to peanuts, shellfish. etc.


Can vaccines be bad for people? Absolutely! But so can tap water in most countries.


At the end of the day everything can be bad for you. You need to just out way out the benefits versus the possible harm.



Overall I think vaccines are a good thing, but just like food allergies, I do believe certain Vaccines can hurt certain people.


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By WHP's logic, we shouldn't wear seat belts because some people have died from seatbelt related injuries.
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Doctors don't have much time to learn about vaccines, they learn very little in their training on the topic of vaccination, after they just get given marketing information from sales reps, it's very easy to point doctors to studies which they haven't been made aware of
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By WHP's logic, we shouldn't wear seat belts because some people have died from seatbelt related injuries.
The analogy would only be relevant if the seat-belt was made in such a way that putting it on was more dangerous than being in a car crash.
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What?
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Come on man. Can you post more stuff about 9/11 or Aliens or something?

You have never done any research. Research on this topic is done in labs with scientific methods. You are reading blogs and watching youtube videos.
You'd be amazed what statistical data is available online, Maths and Statistics was my original degree, it's been my interest to chop up statistics and see what I find
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What happened to the autism rate? Oh yeah, it kept rising even thought there were no vaccines given. But I do not see you spouting off about autism anymore. Did you have a change of heart?
What on Earth are you on about? The Autism rate is rising, the vaccine schedule is ever increasing, whistle-blowers have admitted that the CDC have been covering up the vaccines/Autism data.
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Mark, just because you are out of your depth on this topic does not mean people who disagree with you are out of their depth too. You have outsourced your thinking to others who you believe more capable, you've overlooked the fact that they have huge conflicts of interest, pharma is a for-profit industry, you have been naive and it's hard to admit to yourself that your lifelong trust of this system has been misplaced.

I hope you never have to witness vaccine damage first hand, but if you do it will be a wake-up call.

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WeHatePorn, look man.. I laugh at your fake moon landings and other conspiracy things sometimes, but you need to stop posting "medical" advice.

A serious problem going on these days is that too many people take too much "medical" advice from people who are not doctors. Others will take this BS and re-post it on other forums, etc. It's not funny, it's dangerous.

False information and crazy theories are what has caused years of proven science to be ignored and allowed diseases like the Measles to return.

The first and only person anyone should ever speak to if they are sick or need help, is a real doctor.

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I haven't read all of the replies here but I know how this debate goes. I believe that parents that don't vaccinate their children are idiots. Whether it's their own paranoia or religious reasons doesn't matter. Children should be vaccinated to protect themselves, their family, and anyone who comes in contact with them. I'm a firm believer in that.

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Once upon a time I would have 'believed' the same too, based on the message that get propagated by Big Pharma and the mainstream media, however I took the matter into my own hands and did many years research reading through vaccine studies, nnow I know as a fact that we are better off without vaccines, the science is still weak and nobody dares to improve it, as it would be shooting themselves in the feet.
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1st and formost, both my kids are vaccinated. What I did choose to do was to space them out and not do multiple vaccines at the same time.
You successfully reduced the risk of vaccine damage, well done!

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I do believe some vaccines on some people do cause issues such as allergic reactions, etc.
Correct, Merck vaccines for example have peanut oil, when they added this peanut allergies started appearing in the population.

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Can vaccines be bad for people? Absolutely! But so can tap water in most countries.
Then we have to compare the risk against the benefit, unfortunately the theoretical benefit is not high enough to continue with the risk, unless vaccines can ever be improved.

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Correct, and yes unfortunately the vaccines are causing serious complications, far more serious than mild childhood disease.

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You are completely right, unfortunately there are too many people out there who believe vaccines are 100% safe.
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What on Earth are you on about? The Autism rate is rising, the vaccine schedule is ever increasing, whistle-blowers have admitted that the CDC have been covering up the vaccines/Autism data.
I'm talking about how autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the withdrawal of MMR vaccine. According to you and your studies they should have went down, no?
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I'm talking about how autism rates in Japan continued to rise after the withdrawal of MMR vaccine. According to you and your studies they should have went down, no?
They switched to simultaneous single vaccines, of course Autism rates won't decrease, they would need to stop vaccinating with Measles, Mumps, Rubella altogether or at least space them out to see the Autism drop.
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The analogy would only be relevant if the seat-belt was made in such a way that putting it on was more dangerous than being in a car crash.

The odds of dying by a vaccination 1:1-2 per million (mostly in people with weakened immune systems).
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A meta-analysis of ten studies involving more than 1.2 million children reaffirms that vaccines don?t cause autism. If anything, immunization was associated with decreased risk that children would develop autism, a possibility that?s strongest with the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine.


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There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).
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There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD (autism spectrum disorder) (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
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Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.
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something that really is happening is our strange unnatural and abstracted society is detaching many many people from what had been traditionally called reality where they live in increasingly alienated and isolated self-referential worlds which they have pathologically confused with any sort of objective reality.
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Go and get your McVaccines

McDonald?s Gives Free Vaccines With Happy Meals In Texas


» McDonaldâ??s Gives Free Vaccines With Happy Meals In Texas Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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The odds of dying by a vaccination 1:1-2 per million (mostly in people with weakened immune systems).
They never track this, so we don't know the odds, but given that I know a number of people who have been left dead/disabled from vaccines then it doesn't look good. You wouldn't let your kid go on a rollercoaster with a 1 in 50 chance of Autism, so why risk an unneccessary vaccine?
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They never track this, so we don't know the odds, but given that I know a number of people who have been left dead/disabled from vaccines then it doesn't look good. You wouldn't let your kid go on a rollercoaster with a 1 in 50 chance of Autism, so why risk an unneccessary vaccine?
1 in 50? You lie.

A meta-analysis of ten studies involving more than 1.2 million children reaffirms that vaccines don?t cause autism. If anything, immunization was associated with decreased risk that children would develop autism, a possibility that?s strongest with the measles-mumps-rubella vaccine.


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There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).
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There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD (autism spectrum disorder) (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).
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There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).
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Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.
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The only hope for such a study would be the data in the VAERS reporting system, there is no other such data which would have any hope of having the necessary information, so they decide not to include it, obvious scam as always


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1 in 50? You lie.
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There was no relationship between vaccination and autism (OR: 0.99; 95% CI: 0.92 to 1.06).

There was no relationship between vaccination and ASD (autism spectrum disorder) (OR: 0.91; 95% CI: 0.68 to 1.20).

There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and MMR (OR: 0.84; 95% CI: 0.70 to 1.01).

There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and thimerosal (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.77 to 1.31).

There was no relationship between [autism/ASD] and mercury (Hg) (OR: 1.00; 95% CI: 0.93 to 1.07).

Findings of this meta-analysis suggest that vaccinations are not associated with the development of autism or autism spectrum disorder.
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of all the millions of ways humans suffer, of all the millions of ways humans hurt each other ...why this? why do you spend your time trying to promote this single "truth?"

serious question. why?
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