ALERT: Tube Sites Are Almost DEAD. Help!

[Sobranie]

This is really utterly unbelievable, I don't understand how come porn can just die out like that. I know, the overall adult industry may not be as shiny as in the past, but I cannot explain to myself, how come the major porn tube sites declined SO MUCH in traffic; where do all of the people go? I'm not just referring to the last month, obviously you realized I'm talking about the whole decline.

STATS:

See this link gg.gg/gfytopic or see the bellow screen shot:
^the gg.gg link will send you to siteanalytics compete
I cannot post links or images yet, but please look at this:

(put com instead of c0m)

i.imgur.c0m/43XNJm2.png - PORNHUB
i.imgur.c0m/ZLHUqY1.png - REDTUBE
i.imgur.c0m/bpnUrNH.png - XHAMSTER
and the same drop applies to every other big tube sites!


HOW IS IT POSSIBLE for this to happen? I am sure it can't be due so called "no fap" programs, trend etc. How can so many people stop fapping "at once"? For every one person 'quitting' watching porn, there should be 2 others starting watching it, if we would assume that the world's population is growing day by day - in theory, I know.

Either way, the big porn tube sites should be ASHAMED for letting something like this happen. It's clear they don't care much and became too LAZY. Obviously this affects a lot of us, from small to big.

Sure, you might say.. what is for them to do? Well, when you own that much power, I'm pretty sure you can always do something about it. And they can, there is no way you can tell me that they do not have to power to correct/adjust/improve this decline.

But, it's still inexplicable, where on earth is this big DROP in traffic coming from? How is it possible for porn to just die out like that.. it makes no sense.

Any input and opinion towards this subject is very welcomed.

[ITraffic]

oh noes tube sites are dying what a tragedy ...

[SmutHammer]

Not going to happen, But if tube sites were to die out it would be the best thing to ever happen to this industry. On the bright side of things join ratios to my sites have not gone down. Then again I don't use tubes for getting traffic.

[StinkyPink]

Likely the decline of many of these tubes in googles results, there are many reasons for this. Also take into account that many other sources of traffic to these tubes. Lots of traffic sources tightened up their terms regarding adult sites. Or where did you think the traffic to these tubes was coming from to begin with?

[DonJon69]

Are you sure those stats are accurate?
Maybe google is sending more people to their own crappy sites.

[daviking]

The tubes are doing just fine.
Probably a bug at compete.com

here are the alexa ranks:
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[StinkyPink]

Alexa rank never mattered before, why would it matter now? Truth is NONE of these "sources" truly know the traffic of ANY of your sites, my sites or anyones sites. These types of statistics are only reference points, and not very accurate ones to boot.

I believe that sure, they WILL experience SOME decline, as we all do. Until they step up and reevaluate, try new methods (whether good or bad) to get back what they lose.

SO MANY factors to consider.

[Sobranie]

Ive noticed worse traffic every week and so have a lot of people. Traffic has been on a massive decline for almost a year. How can people not want free porn? Thats like a fat kid saying "No candy for me today, Ill have a salad." It simply dont happen. the stats I gave were 100% correct. If traffic is going this low where the hell is it going? in febuary alone they lost 3-5 million people. This is nuts. The tube sites greed and lazyness will destroy them.

[Mediamix]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

Ive noticed worse traffic every week and so have a lot of people. Traffic has been on a massive decline for almost a year. How can people not want free porn? Thats like a fat kid saying "No candy for me today, Ill have a salad." It simply dont happen. the stats I gave were 100% correct. If traffic is going this low where the hell is it going? in febuary alone they lost 3-5 million people. This is nuts. The tube sites greed and lazyness will destroy them.

Go fuck yourself.

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by Mediamix

Go fuck yourself.

After you fist me you tosser

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

Ive noticed worse traffic every week and so have a lot of people. Traffic has been on a massive decline for almost a year. How can people not want free porn? Thats like a fat kid saying "No candy for me today, Ill have a salad." It simply dont happen. the stats I gave were 100% correct. If traffic is going this low where the hell is it going? in febuary alone they lost 3-5 million people. This is nuts. The tube sites greed and lazyness will destroy them.

I for one do not go to tubes for porn. on that same note, I don't see many porn sites I'm interested in joining either. I enjoy what I see on twitter much more than what tube sites have to offer

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by SmutHammer

I for one do not go to tubes for porn. on that same note, I don't see many porn sites I'm interested in joining either. I enjoy what I see on twitter much more than what tube sites have to offer

So where do you go for porn? You mean you only fap to stuff on twitter?

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by daviking

The tubes are doing just fine.
Probably a bug at compete.com
here are the alexa ranks:

lol that would mean there has been a bug at the site for almost a yeah. Redtube and all others are getting lazy. Look at their outdated platforms and site structure. Its garbage and people are sick of them I guess.

[SilentKnight]

[SmutHammer]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

So where do you go for porn? You mean you only fap to stuff on twitter?

truthfully I pretty much only fap to my own content. I don't have the imagination I once had, if I can't picture it really being able to happen (me being with the girl) it's not much of a turn on.

[TheSquealer]

GFY, where everyday is Idiot Day

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by SmutHammer

truthfully I pretty much only fap to my own content. I don't have the imagination I once had, if I can't picture it really being able to happen (me being with the girl) it's not much of a turn on.

Gotcha thanks for the input.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

This is really utterly unbelievable.

Yep it is unbelievable, it's also wrong.

Pornhub is Alexa 74, Redtube is Alexa 140. YouPorn is 155. (Global Figures)

The drop you have seen is an issue of metrics and how they apply to the shifting landscape of apps and the shift to mobile (which is not measured by toolbar sampling).

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by TheSquealer

GFY, where everyday is Idiot Day

what does that even mean? I hope your body gets sucked up in the disgustingly fat bitches ass hole in your profile pic

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Yep it is unbelievable, it's also wrong.

Pornhub is Alexa 74, Redtube is Alexa 140. YouPorn is 155. (Global Figures)

The drop you have seen is an issue of metrics and how they apply to the shifting landscape of apps and the shift to mobile (which is not measured by toolbar sampling).

Wait so those stats dont include mobile is that what your saying?

[baggg]

alexa and compete have been irrelevant for years,nothing is happening,move along everyone

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by baggg

alexa and compete have been irrelevant for years,nothing is happening,move along everyone

why do you say that?

[AdultKing]

https://support.alexa.com/hc/en-us/a...gs-determined-

[tiramisu]

I type in my site in compete and its saying i have 23749 uniques for jan 2015, but actually I have 225,000 for that month, so yes, now u know how accurate that site is. So dont panic and rely on only one source to determine anything my friend.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

why do you say that?

He says it because you're an idiot and suffering from the affliction of "garbage in, garbage out".

You clearly don't understand that firstly most sites keep their own traffic numbers secret, secondly that Alexa, Compete and services like them use figures based on sampling and the more traffic a site gets, the less accurate such samples are because a small skew in the sampled data can translate to a enormous skew in the interpolated result.

Notwithstanding that, it's funny to see a newbie come on to the board and start screaming that the sky is falling, so either you are not new and were banned before or you love a good roasting and want to be remembered as an idiot wanker.

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

He says it because you're an idiot and suffering from the affliction of "garbage in, garbage out".

You clearly don't understand that firstly most sites keep their own traffic numbers secret, secondly that Alexa, Compete and services like them use figures based on sampling and the more traffic a site gets, the less accurate such samples are because a small skew in the sampled data can translate to a enormous skew in the interpolated result.

Notwithstanding that, it's funny to see a newbie come on to the board and start screaming that the sky is falling, so either you are not new and were banned before or you love a good roasting and want to be remembered as an idiot wanker.

Didnt know that stuff thanks. And yes I like to get my ass hole fucked with butterd corn

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by tiramisu

I type in my site in compete and its saying i have 23749 uniques for jan 2015, but actually I have 225,000 for that month, so yes, now u know how accurate that site is. So dont panic and rely on only one source to determine anything my friend.

I didnt know that. Thanks man, your one of the few with valuable input.

[AdultKing]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

Didnt know that stuff.

That was patently obvious.

[Sobranie]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

That was patently obvious.

Dont forget to puke in my anus

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

what does that even mean? I hope your body gets sucked up in the disgustingly fat bitches ass hole in your profile pic

It means that you'll thrive here.

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

Notwithstanding that, it's funny to see a newbie come on to the board and start screaming that the sky is falling, so either you are not new and were banned before or you love a good roasting and want to be remembered as an idiot wanker.

The nick reminds me so much like the name sabrina... or sabby? Just sayin'.

[myleene]

Several stopped going to porn sites. They play Candy Crush now.

[PornoPlopedia]

cannibalization of traffic. It is a Tube eat Tube world out there.

I am sure that there are new tubes out there where the traffic is going.

[StinkyPink]

There are soup kitchens in almost every major city, but people still ordering pizza. Or... if they are good enough, they make their own.

[TheSquealer]

People won't buy bottled water because water is free.......

[The Porn Nerd]

To be fair, on the one hand traffic and views from tubes has been bubbling along at an anemic level for quite some time now. This is due to many Programs closing shop, less production, more competition (more tubes), shifting focus (from desktop to mobile), and a few other factors. IF people are turning less to tubes it may be because when something is free it is no longer special. If you can go and see it anytime, instead of it being a secret/dirty thing you look forward to each day, then people will become more apathetic.

Having said all that, there have been many, many attempts to deduce how profitable a tube is, how much traffic a tube gets, etc. You can search for those discussions right here on GFY. So it's nearly impossible to tell and even 'educated guesses' are just that, guesses.

BTW: When people come into a thread like this and go "I don't rely on tubes for traffic" they are full of absolute bullshit. With some tubes, because of their upload system, you have to choose your own paysite amongst a list of hundreds already submitting vids. So I see EXACTLY which program does and does not play with tubes for traffic and I can tell you it's just about every one I see here on GFY. Just sayin'.

(Before people flame me, I started in 2009 when tubes were already on the scene so have no memory/history of being fucked by them. They are all my biggest legitimate affiliates.)

[Barry-xlovecam]

This is from the Alexa Pro service -- the one you pay for.
The cart is for the subject sample tubes' Global Ranks -- which are relative to one another in their methodology.

There is no traffic volume computation given you would have to extrapolate that from some known reference points and there is no guarantee of that being objective or subjective anyway.

According to this graph of the past 6 months rankings notwithstanding tubecup.com there are no real changes evidenced by traffic ranking changes.

You can try quantcast estimates of traffic volume but they are off in real terms but they serve for a comparison only.



Tubecup has a questionable variance in traffic volume between the two sources.

Conclusion: Contradictory statistics with no reliable trending.

[3xmedia]

what a retard...

[MiamiBoyz]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

So where do you go for porn? You mean you only fap to stuff on twitter?

All I need is a mirror and I am good to go.

[shoot twice]

Originally Posted by Sobranie

How can people not want free porn?

If you spent any time in the production end of this industry you'll figure out real quick that the porn fan is fucking fickle at the best of time. The average porn fan is a lot like a fussy baby with colic and diaper rash.

IE: They're happy for 10 minutes and then they go back to crying about how bad everything is.

Today because of all you can jerk off free porn, the porn fans are over saturated, over stimulated and sooner or later they're going to get bored. So there's bound to be a drop off of some kind. But don't worry they'll find something else in order to stroke off.

If you ask me instead of trying to make porn tubes pay for you... You should try and develop an app of some kind. Something like "Find a Blow Job" in your neighborhood.

[PornoPlopedia]

Originally Posted by StinkyPink

There are soup kitchens in almost every major city, but people still ordering pizza. Or... if they are good enough, they make their own.

I am not sure about this comparison. You are comparing goods that cost money to free porn. I don't think that a comparison to the tubes can be made with a brick and mortar business.
In an anecdotal way it could be: Domino's was delivering pizza for free. He was making more money from the ads on his website when you go to order online. And now Pizza Hut and most of the other pizza joints (who were going out of business) also started delivering free pizza !
The clients : Yeaaaaa, today I order from Pizza hut and tomorrow from Pizza Pizza....
Less people will spend time on each of the pizzerias websites. Consequence: they will start to loose traffic, and traffic is money. This business model is not very viable on the long run

[StinkyPink]

Originally Posted by PornoPlopedia

I am not sure about this comparison. You are comparing goods that cost money to free porn. I don't think that a comparison to the tubes can be made with a brick and mortar business.
In an anecdotal way it could be: Domino's was delivering pizza for free. He was making more money from the ads on his website when you go to order online. And now Pizza Hut and most of the other pizza joints (who were going out of business) also started delivering free pizza !
The clients : Yeaaaaa, today I order from Pizza hut and tomorrow from Pizza Pizza....
Less people will spend time on each of the pizzerias websites. Consequence: they will start to loose traffic, and traffic is money. This business model is not very viable on the long run

Look, soup kitchens don't serve just soup. Say they serve some pizza?

You can go eat fresh handmade pizza for free, or you can go buy it at dominos or pizzahut... some mom and pop shop.

Some folks LIKE the pizza at the soup kitchen and that is fine (they still order pizza from dominos, but not all the time). Others have no choice because they are broke. While the majority of people who have always been eating pizza from one of the retail pizza shops, a few might TRY the pizza at the soup kitchen, but likely most still order out.

The ones that eat at the soup kitchen have always ate at the soup kitchen, with the exception of those stated above. Hell some have even went on to eat at the retail shop because they realize how damn yummy it is and want to try other pizza, you know the kind people spend money on, in hopes to see what IS the buzz afterall. Only to get their pizza all fucked up, full of grease and upside down in the box...

NOW!!!

If you have QUALITY PIZZA, delivered as promised, FRESH AND HOT! Then who the fuck wants to settle for the soup kitchen.

The problem isn't the tubes, the problem is that every tom with a hairy dick, wants to bank in the industry... turning shit sites full of outdated shit content, delivered in a shitty way! Well, if that is what the BUZZ is all about. I think I might just settle for the soup kitchen.

[AdultKing]

If you ask me instead of trying to make porn tubes pay for you... You should try and develop an app of some kind. Something like "Find a Blow Job" in your neighborhood.

It's called Tinder.

All this talk of drop offs, pizza, soup kitchens and apps that let you get blowjobs has all flowed from one poorly interpreted set of figures posted by someone who obviously doesn't understand anything.

Carry on.

[OneHungLo]

Thanks, guys ..now I want pizza

[The Porn Nerd]

Idea: Pizza Tube!

Seperated by niches: pepperoni, sausage, onions, mushrooms....

[lezinterracial]

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd

Idea: Pizza Tube!

Seperated by niches: pepperoni, sausage, onions, mushrooms....

An app where you could watch Pizza Tube get a blowjob and get a site's alexa rating would be cool.

[pornmasta]

no more british surfers ;)

[ilnjscb]

soup kitchen analogy doesn't work. People see you at a soup kitchen; you have to go there.

If you had two pizza restaurants that delivered on demand, to your door, one had every ingredient imaginable and was free, but only good, and the other had a few select ingredients and required a credit card transaction and a monthly membership, but was cooked really well.

Answer? If there was an instant, anonymous micropayment system, you'd order the best made pizza that you preferred. But you won't do a monthly membership.

[Dirty Dane]

Originally Posted by AdultKing

You clearly don't understand that firstly most sites keep their own traffic numbers secret, secondly that Alexa, Compete and services like them use figures based on sampling and the more traffic a site gets, the less accurate such samples are because a small skew in the sampled data can translate to a enormous skew in the interpolated result.

But if real traffic increase, doesn't sample size also increase then? In statistics, its more accurate the bigger sample. Only quality of the sample can change this.